The top 3 things Atheists frequently misunderstand about Christians

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#101 worlock77
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It's very hard to understand what your saying, your sentence structure and grammar is confusing. And again I AM a Semite! How can I be anti Semitic? That would be like a black person hating black people or Asians hating Asians ect... it makes no sense.ShadowMoses900

It might not make sense, but it does happen.

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#102 themajormayor
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The most common one I see is atheists that believe that every Christian literally interprets the Bible.JC346
Yeah this
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#103 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]It's very hard to understand what your saying, your sentence structure and grammar is confusing. And again I AM a Semite! How can I be anti Semitic? That would be like a black person hating black people or Asians hating Asians ect... it makes no sense.worlock77

It might not make sense, but it does happen.

Well I certainly don't think Shadowmoses is but yeah it does happen. Quiet alot actually.
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#104 kuraimen
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You see, praying is like a Slot Machine.SaintWalrus
Well that's a pretty lousy deal. What does Satan offer?
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#105 Socijalisticka
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]It's very hard to understand what your saying, your sentence structure and grammar is confusing. And again I AM a Semite! How can I be anti Semitic? That would be like a black person hating black people or Asians hating Asians ect... it makes no sense.worlock77

Nice job grouping both blacks and asians as one.

It's not like genocide ever occured in places like the DRC, Liberia, Sudan, Rwanda or China etc.

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#106 Shadow4020
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1. If God created everything, then who created God?

Answer: Well, If time is a manifestation of the will of God, then therefor he created it and everything governed by time was created by God. Thus, since concepts such as The Beginning, Creation, The end, and etc., are concepts of time and God created the concept of time itself, nothing created God.

2.If God is so kind, then why does he let bad things happen.

Answer: God gave humans the power of free will. He is not responsible for his children's actions just as a mother and father are for their children. You can

teach em and show them the way. But in the end, sooner or later you're just gonna have to let go of the handlebars and let them ride solo.

3. If praying is necessary, then how come God doesn't answer all of your prayers?

Well, you see. With God, things are a bit complicated. God hears and knows all of your prayers and receives them constantly. Sometimes a christian might feel as if they are being ignored by the holy father. But the holy father loves and cares for all of his creations. You see, praying is like a Slot Machine. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. That's just how things work. The bible tells us that we must Pray daily and constantly.

Any questions?

SaintWalrus

1) You derailed your argument from the start by assuming that time was created by God, Atheists don't believe in God, how could anyone see this as a sound argument? If we do assume that God exists, your conclusion still doesn't follow; God created time > Beginning, The End, Creation are concepts of time > Concepts of time were created by God > Therefore, nothing created God. This still does not make sense.

2) The Bible states that God is omnipotent, so He already knows what decisions we are going to make. Ex. Paul is drunk, he has the free will to either walk home or drive. God already knows he will choose to drive home and kill three people, but does nothing to stop it.

3) Equating praying with slot machines? I don't think I need to touch on this one.

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#107 Teenaged
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If God chooses you to show the way for other people, then you stand faithful and serve your father

It will all be worth it when you're standing at those gates and you hear God say

"well done."

Nothing can top that satisfactioN

That's eternal life, friend.

SaintWalrus

And you confirm my theory about why many theists are theists.

They want to be someone's special one. Something to alleviate their lack of self-esteem and feel special.

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#108 Sagem28
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I totally read 'athletes'.Fightingfan

Now THAT would have been an interesting topic

Also;

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#109 TransFishers
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I'd be less likely to ask why God allows bad things to happen, (and would argue he does so because his non-existence precludes such intervention) and more likely to ask a Christian why God has so often directly done bad things. God leaves a path of destruction through the OT that makes all the worst tyrants in history blush. God's real problem? He's too human.
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#110 hippiesanta
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lol Athiest says anything to get attention
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#111 FMAB_GTO
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Let's see now there are atheists and religious people,one of them is right and both of them will die,then: 1.If atheists are right then both religious and atheists will not be affected since they are now nothing regardless if their life was good or not. 2.If religious people are right then whoops....
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#112 Barbariser
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The ironic thing is that the TC reinforces Christian stereotypes...

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#113 funkadelichika
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Praying is like a slot machine? :lol:hummer700
I also found this quite humourous. And if I were a christian a tad...offensive. lol
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#114 DreamingMind
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Thus, since concepts such as The Beginning, Creation, The end, and etc., are concepts of time and God created the concept of time itself, SaintWalrus
Who created the concept of God then ? :)
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#115 junglist101
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I totally read 'athletes'.Sagem28

Now THAT would have been an interesting topic

Also;

This pic pretty much sums it up.

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#116 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

My concern isn't what atheists belive as it's thier constituitonal right to do so and it doesn't bother me. The thing that DOES bother me though is how some atheists think Christians and other religious people are uneductated and stupid, and then some of the atheists will baically preach to religious people that they are wrong. That's being closed minded and intolerant and is no different from a religoius zealot.

ShadowMoses900

every extreme is bad, that is true for everything i think, but i've never seen an extremist atheist do the things an extremist religious does. its just sickening

Joseph Stalin, atheist who banned religion and killed millions of people, religious or otherwise.

That's just one guy, I could list a bunch more but I don't feel like pulling out the list because that would only promt some atheists on here to pull out there list of religoius hypocrites (TRUE men of God don't hurt others) and that would cause this to turn into a pissing contest.

no you could not "list" a bunch since he didn't kill for being atheist, thats just crap you said it yourself he was just a murderer who killed for being in power, he didn't care that the people were "religious or otherwise".

You are making it look like he killed for atheism and that is completely misleading and wrong.

Now i could really list a few mass murderers who killed over religion.

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#117 Krelian-co
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Let's see now there are atheists and religious people,one of them is right and both of them will die,then: 1.If atheists are right then both religious and atheists will not be affected since they are now nothing regardless if their life was good or not. 2.If religious people are right then whoops....FMAB_GTO

you are right im gonna go convert myself to religion because im scared. Pathetic

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#118 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]

If God chooses you to show the way for other people, then you stand faithful and serve your father

It will all be worth it when you're standing at those gates and you hear God say

"well done."

Nothing can top that satisfactioN

That's eternal life, friend.

Teenaged

And you confirm my theory about why many theists are theists.

They want to be someone's special one. Something to alleviate their lack of self-esteem and feel special.

lets not forget the feeling of belonging to a group, fear of death, egocentrical thought that wer have to be more, psychological manipulation and being raised in a religious home and bam, you have religion.

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#119 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Joseph Stalin, atheist who banned religion and killed millions of people, religious or otherwise.

That's just one guy, I could list a bunch more but I don't feel like pulling out the list because that would only promt some atheists on here to pull out there list of religoius hypocrites (TRUE men of God don't hurt others) and that would cause this to turn into a pissing contest.

ShadowMoses900

When the fvck did you become the authority of the true men of god you fvcking idiot. How the hell do you know god so well that it would actually give two **** about some crumb in the universe. They think they are true men of god that's all that matters doesn't matter if you denounce them which I think they would denounce you for the way you believe. Also stop being so anti-Semitic bloody annoying.

True Christians and other people of God don't hurt others, it goes against values. Yes you can pull something out of the Old Testament and say yadda yadda yadda killed these people, but that was a VERY different time and culture. I don't consider people like Osama Bin Laden to be men of God like he claimed to be, he wasa monster and is in hell, just like how I don't consider the WBBC wackos to be people of God, they are the complete opposite.

Being a man of God is simply about loving your neighbor and being thankful to God and tyring to be a better person, it's not about judging people or harassing others or starting holy wars.

And I am a Semite, how can I be anti Semitic? lol

a. as always when a religious someone does something bad, religious people jump to say he "was not truly religious hence not one of us" washing their hanmds, as always

b. yes the old testament, yeah i agree it was different time and culture, that would be true for us atheists because we know bible is just a recollection of book writen by humans and plagued by their culture and social customs and contradictions and so on, but to you that is not a valid point, bible its the "truth" no matter the time, it was written by "god" his views just dont change with time or did he had a change of heart? because if i remember right he was a mass murderer who ordered other to kill, and then bam comes jesus and the old god is no more and he becomes a hippie, but i guess that contradiction is clearly ignored by people.

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#120 SPYDER0416
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That all Christians are creationists.

Lief_Ericson

Yeah this is one I wanted to elaborate on. Atheism is just the belief that there isn't a God, which might be a reason I might define myself as such, but for a lot of Atheists they think Atheism = Hating all religion, and claiming logic = Atheism. It really doesn't, I mean beliefs range and vary, and in general I think most Christians I know don't take the stories from the Bible to be 100% literal.

Truth is, I think Atheists should respect others beliefs. They'll pull out a story like a bunch of crazy people hating on one Atheist for something stupid, then all the militant Atheists will gang up on some Christian guy or verse for something stupid. Its a weird hypocritical cycle, which I guess can be said of anything else (politics, game consoles, etc.)

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#121 nicksonman
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1. If God created everything, then who created God?

Answer: Well, If time is a manifestation of the will of God, then therefor he created it and everything governed by time was created by God. Thus, since concepts such as The Beginning, Creation, The end, and etc., are concepts of time and God created the concept of time itself, nothing created God.

2.If God is so kind, then why does he let bad things happen.

Answer: God gave humans the power of free will. He is not responsible for his children's actions just as a mother and father are for their children. You can

teach em and show them the way. But in the end, sooner or later you're just gonna have to let go of the handlebars and let them ride solo.

3. If praying is necessary, then how come God doesn't answer all of your prayers?

Well, you see. With God, things are a bit complicated. God hears and knows all of your prayers and receives them constantly. Sometimes a christian might feel as if they are being ignored by the holy father. But the holy father loves and cares for all of his creations. You see, praying is like a Slot Machine. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. That's just how things work. The bible tells us that we must Pray daily and constantly.

Any questions?

SaintWalrus

1. Then who created God?

2. But God is more than just a mother or father, he's the creator of everything, including how we think, so therefore, he's a bad designer.

3. Now I know you're just trolling. :)

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#122 RationalAtheist
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[QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"]

That all Christians are creationists.

SPYDER0416

Yeah this is one I wanted to elaborate on. Atheism is just the belief that there isn't a God, which might be a reason I might define myself as such, but for a lot of Atheists they think Atheism = Hating all religion, and claiming logic = Atheism. It really doesn't, I mean beliefs range and vary, and in general I think most Christians I know don't take the stories from the Bible to be 100% literal.

Truth is, I think Atheists should respect others beliefs. They'll pull out a story like a bunch of crazy people hating on one Atheist for something stupid, then all the militant Atheists will gang up on some Christian guy or verse for something stupid. Its a weird hypocritical cycle, which I guess can be said of anything else (politics, game consoles, etc.)

Don't you think your generalisations are a bit ridiculous?

Why do you think all beliefs should be respected, including the wildest ones?

"Militant" is a term you use inappropriately when describing atheists, but could be far better used to describe those that aim to cause direct suffering for their faith:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16833032

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#123 foxhound_fox
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1. If a conscious, anthropomorphic God that "exists" as a separate being created us and the universe, then it logically assumes that something had to create it. 2. What about natural disasters and kid-cancer? We don't choose those things to happen. 3. This is assuming prayer is something to ask for things materially rather than just personal reflection.
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#124 Planet_Pluto
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3. If praying is necessary, then how come God doesn't answer all of your prayers?

SaintWalrus

God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is 'no.'

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#125 Treflis
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]

3. If praying is necessary, then how come God doesn't answer all of your prayers?

Planet_Pluto

God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is 'no.'

Or "Talk to the hand cause the face ain't listening"
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#126 jesuschristmonk
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No.BrianB0422
This. God can't not be created, he's a flying spaghetti monster. Where's the cook that put him together? lol So he's still only a Theory. And if he's so scientific with Time and sht, then why didn't he tell the Popes those thousands of years ago how the universe worked? 8O
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#127 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]

3. If praying is necessary, then how come God doesn't answer all of your prayers?

Planet_Pluto

God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is 'no.'

How would you know?

God works in mysterious ways!!!

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#128 TopTierHustler
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I don't accept one, I think it's it's poor logic and an assumption. I don't accept two, the Christian god is a sadistic monster.
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#129 harashawn
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Nothing I haven't heard before, besides the third answer. The first answer is possible if you defy the laws of physics, which by definition is physically impossible, but I suppose you could argue that it's physically impossible for nothing to come from something. Well, I'm open to that hypothesis. The second answer ignores the fact that some individuals are predisposed to act evil moreso than others, nevertheless natural disasters that wasn't caused by free will. The third answer completely insults God by saying he rewards some but not others based purely on luck, which usually a trait absent of divine intervention.imaps3fanboy
Well a new leading hypothesis among physicists says that the universe might actually be a flat plane, so it IS possible for something to come from nothing. I know absolutely nothing about physics though

Wait... If the universe is a flat plane, how is everything 3-dimensional?
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#130 Bloodseeker23
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If God knows everything..then every time we pray, he already knows in advance whether we are worth helping or not..I mean like, what's praying for then? I was a hardcore Christian for about 2 years...but there's a lot of things that don't make sense to me. Though I still am a believer, just confused lately.
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#131 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]Thus, since concepts such as The Beginning, Creation, The end, and etc., are concepts of time and God created the concept of time itself, DreamingMind
Who created the concept of God then ? :)

humans who needed to explain everyday life
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#132 theone86
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[QUOTE="DreamingMind"][QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]Thus, since concepts such as The Beginning, Creation, The end, and etc., are concepts of time and God created the concept of time itself, wis3boi
Who created the concept of God then ? :)

humans who needed to explain everyday life

But the concept of god is of a perfect being, and we are imperfect beings, so how could we invent a concept of perfection if we ourselves are not perfect?

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#133 unrealtron
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"] You see, praying is like a Slot MachineOverlord93

I agree.

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#134 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="DreamingMind"] Who created the concept of God then ? :)theone86

humans who needed to explain everyday life

But the concept of god is of a perfect being, and we are imperfect beings, so how could we invent a concept of perfection if we ourselves are not perfect?

I think that it's more accurate to say that god is supposed to be a perfect being based on our perception of perfection.

If we have a perception of perfection then we can imagine something that embodies it. It doesnt mean that what we perceive as perfection is indeed perfection and in the end what is perfection anyway? /philosoraptor

But really.

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#135 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] humans who needed to explain everyday lifeTeenaged

But the concept of god is of a perfect being, and we are imperfect beings, so how could we invent a concept of perfection if we ourselves are not perfect?

I think that it's more accurate to say that god is supposed to be a perfect being based on our perception of perfection.

If we have a perception of perfection then we can imagine something that embodies it. It doesnt mean that what we perceive as perfection is indeed perfection and in the end what is perfection anyway? /philosoraptor

But really.

Just playing devil's advocate to Descartes for the hell of it, I think he's mostly full of crap.

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#136 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

But the concept of god is of a perfect being, and we are imperfect beings, so how could we invent a concept of perfection if we ourselves are not perfect?

theone86

I think that it's more accurate to say that god is supposed to be a perfect being based on our perception of perfection.

If we have a perception of perfection then we can imagine something that embodies it. It doesnt mean that what we perceive as perfection is indeed perfection and in the end what is perfection anyway? /philosoraptor

But really.

Just playing devil's advocate to Descartes for the hell of it, I think he's mostly full of crap.

I dont like Descartes (what little I remember about him). :P

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#137 lostfan132
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earlier today i was crapping on the toilet, and the damn turd just wouldn't go down, thankfully i prayed to god that it would just go, apparently i hit the jackpot because the turd was raining down moments later.

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#138 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="DreamingMind"] Who created the concept of God then ? :)theone86

humans who needed to explain everyday life

But the concept of god is of a perfect being, and we are imperfect beings, so how could we invent a concept of perfection if we ourselves are not perfect?

hax
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#139 wis3boi
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this thread is now about religious motivational posters

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#140 LordsLoss
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I have a question. If humans have free-will, and God knows everything which means he knows what we are going to do, then wouldn't that make us not really have free will, but make it seem like we do, but really we are pre-determined already? Long run on sentense blah blah...
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#141 VintageVader
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Nice try.