The ultimate question: Could Bruce Lee hold his own in MMA/UFC?

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#51 cruzer167
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if he knew the rules he probably wouldent want to fight, i mean come on his first moves were eye gouge then ball kick ;)

but serioulsy he would knock out fighters in the ufc twice before they hit the ground8)

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#52 xobballox
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My Physics professor was trained under the people Bruce Lee trained, and he cracked a baseball bat over his knee like it was a twig. Insanity.
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#53 -Misanthropic-
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I betcha I'd do well in MMA and UFC.... I'd smack them with my ROFLWAFFLE hammer and BLAMMO they're on the ground with penis for legs and clown hair coming out their ass.

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#54 nitsud_19
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I think he would do great on his feet and take out anyone but the ground game would be a different story... thats if he ever gets put down.

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#55 legend26
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he would murder them

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#56 Dark-Sithious
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I think a goodgrapler could tear that thin body to pieces. If a good ground fighter got him onthe ground he would be done for.

Bruce was great in the fields he was great at, but he was no UFC fighter

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#57 Ontain
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the rules of mma probably aren't in his favor.
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#58 Ontain
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I think a goodgrapler could tear that thin body to pieces. If a good ground fighter got him onthe ground he would be done for.

Bruce was great in the fields he was great at, but he was no UFC fighter

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I agree but that's because the rules of mma would keep bruce from being able to do some things. like face kicking while your down or strikes to the back and back of head. and of course the low blows :)
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#59 makiveli100
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Bruce Lee can't be stopped.

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[QUOTE="Selpy"][QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...

I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.

I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.

I don't think he would do that well.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.

Bruce Lee knew Jujitsu so NO he is NOT overrated.

it's one thing to be able to do moves and it's a completely different thing to fight......

Okay soap guy.
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#61 SegaGenesisfan
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[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

I bet Bruce Lee is up in heaven kicking names and taking ass.

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:?

Is it possible that his body fat percentage put him to death? I mean having such a low body fat can make you look really strong, but on the long term your body is getting really worn out.

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#62 SouL-Tak3R
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He is one of the most disciplined and talented fighters to exist. I definitely believe he could do well in those.

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#63 luke1889
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I reckon so, yeah.
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#64 jfcundiff
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I think if the fight was on the feet, he could have a chance. If he ran into a good grappler though whether it be a wrestler or a BJJ expert, they would give him some problems. I could see a good wrestler being able to control him on the ground and pound him out. A BJJ fighter could obviously pull submissions out of nowhere and maybe catch Lee in something.
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[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

I think a goodgrapler could tear that thin body to pieces. If a good ground fighter got him onthe ground he would be done for.

Bruce was great in the fields he was great at, but he was no UFC fighter

Ontain

I agree but that's because the rules of mma would keep bruce from being able to do some things. like face kicking while your down or strikes to the back and back of head. and of course the low blows :)

Yeah, if it was a no rule street fight I think Bruce could kill most, possibly in a matter of seconds. MMA fighters doesn't know how to perform lethal moves, Bruce did.

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[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

I bet Bruce Lee is up in heaven kicking names and taking ass.

:?

Is it possible that his body fat percentage put him to death? I mean having such a low body fat can make you look really strong, but on the long term your body is getting really worn out.

Hmm..doesn't fat give you energy?
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I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...

I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.

I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.

I don't think he would do that well.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.

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Thats pretty much how I feel. I LOVE Bruce Lee, but I question how legit some people's claims about him are. Its like Chuck Norris jokes, except the people saying them are serious. You can't judge a fighter based on anecdotes and watching choreographed fight scenes.
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[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]:?

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Is it possible that his body fat percentage put him to death? I mean having such a low body fat can make you look really strong, but on the long term your body is getting really worn out.

Hmm..doesn't fat give you energy?

If the body doesn't have enough stored glycogen in the cells, it will start to break down fattissue to get enough energy, and sometimes muscle tissue aswell.

If you have a very low bodyfat %, like less than 3% the body will feed on muscle cells mostlyand possibly other importantcells aswell, which ofc wears your body down and you become more susceptible to illness.

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#69 phillo99
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Of course Bruce could. Not many people's moves are so fast that you have to slow down films to see them. Not many people can knock you over and make you hurt for days with a one-inch punch. Bruce Lee is the ultimate fighter. Ultimate. Fighter.

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Could he be a contender? Maybe. A champion? Yeah, well, unless he worked on a couple things, probably not. Knowing Bruce Lee though, he probably would strive to get better. Bruce Lee as he was though, would struggle. The lack of takedown defence would lead to him being flat on his back, which would lead to him being pounded out, or even likelier still, submitted. As great as he was, he was still just a striker and more often than not, one dimensional fighters just don't cut the mustard these days. That said, if Lee were alive today, he'd probably be working on his ground game and takedown defence....frankly, Bruce Lee with takedown defence...that would be scary. If Mirko Cro Cop managed to do so much damage in Pride as a brutal striker with takedown defence, Lord knows what Lee could do. As it stands though....Fedor vs Bruce Lee = Fedor by armbar :P
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#71 XCyberForceX
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Bruce was awsome during his time but this is a different era. I think he would have a rough time against some of the better fighters. Now if they had MMA/UFC during Bruce's time then I would say heck yeah!

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I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.

I do not think he would do well in MMA/UFC. His fighting style focused on speed, technique, and brutality. Physically he would be a match for any contender because he took his body way too seriously, his small 160-170 frame was misleading when it came to exerting force. Anyone who knows about Bruce Lee can tell you that he could produce an excellent amount of speed and/or power.

What people do not know about Mr. Lee is that he did not like violence. In fact, he often declined to fight people when pride was the key motivator. If he was alive today he might not even like the MMA/UFC.

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#73 Paladin_King
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I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.

clayron

Unfortunately, in MMA, the best fighters ARE well-rounded, or at least trained in all areas. Was Bruce Lee actually well acquainted/trained in submissions?

Your post doesn't answer my key question: a world-class fighter with world-class submissions takes him down. Bruce is flat on his back. What will he do. Will he be able to defend against the submissions? Will he be able to find one?

You seem to suggest that due to the media attention put to on his striking, that his grappling/ground game were ignored. Could you fill me in on his grappling/submissions/wrestling credentials? I've never come across them.

Frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not people paid more attention to his knockout ability than his submissions ability, fact remains that flat on his back, Bruce will not be finding a knockout.

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Bruce Lee wouldn't be elgiable of even joining, he was on steroids when he died.
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#75 MgamerBD
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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]

I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.

Unfortunately, in MMA, the best fighters ARE well-rounded, or at least trained in all areas. Was Bruce Lee actually well acquainted/trained in submissions?

Your post doesn't answer my key question: a world-class fighter with world-class submissions takes him down. Bruce is flat on his back. What will he do. Will he be able to defend against the submissions? Will he be able to find one?

You seem to suggest that due to the media attention put to on his striking, that his grappling/ground game were ignored. Could you fill me in on his grappling/submissions/wrestling credentials? I've never come across them.

Frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not people paid more attention to his knockout ability than his submissions ability, fact remains that flat on his back, Bruce will not be finding a knockout.

Didn't Buce Lee take Jui jutsu though? I think Bruce Lee would have been great on his feet but ok on his back. He would train alot though to work on it.
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#76 thegame458
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I think Bruce Lee could most likely hold his own. He probably would need to learn some other disciplines to make him complete because martial arts always evolves. Thanks to Bruce for inspiring many of the best martial artists of today

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#77 topsemag55
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Bruce Lee could do fingertip push-ups......maybe some Special Forces soldiers could do that - but not all of them.

A better question would be, "Could Bruce Lee defeat Frank Dux" (real-life subject of the Bloodsport movie)?

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#78 clayron
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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]

I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.

MgamerBD

Unfortunately, in MMA, the best fighters ARE well-rounded, or at least trained in all areas. Was Bruce Lee actually well acquainted/trained in submissions?

Your post doesn't answer my key question: a world-class fighter with world-class submissions takes him down. Bruce is flat on his back. What will he do. Will he be able to defend against the submissions? Will he be able to find one?

You seem to suggest that due to the media attention put to on his striking, that his grappling/ground game were ignored. Could you fill me in on his grappling/submissions/wrestling credentials? I've never come across them.

Frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not people paid more attention to his knockout ability than his submissions ability, fact remains that flat on his back, Bruce will not be finding a knockout.

Didn't Buce Lee take Jui jutsu though? I think Bruce Lee would have been great on his feet but ok on his back. He would train alot though to work on it.

I believe that was one discipline he studied. I know he trained with someone who knew Jiu Jitsu for a number of years. So, I think he would be able to hold his own in a ground game. He may not be an expert, but I do not think he would get easily outdone.

I do not understand how you can say he would just flat out lose on his back. No one knew the extent of his martial arts prowess. It is likely he had some experience with grappling, and even ground game.

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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...

I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.

I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.

I don't think he would do that well.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.

Selpy

Bruce Lee knew Jujitsu so NO he is NOT overrated.

it's one thing to be able to do moves and it's a completely different thing to fight......

there are stories (who knows how true they are) of competetive fighters challenging him on set, then being owned by him. I think a big reason of his fame is because of his astonishing level of fitness. He had 2% body fat and could do 2 finger push ups anddo leg raises on his shoulder blades as an example

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#80 metalpower08
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[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"][QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...

I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.

I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.

I don't think he would do that well.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.

Thats pretty much how I feel. I LOVE Bruce Lee, but I question how legit some people's claims about him are. Its like Chuck Norris jokes, except the people saying them are serious. You can't judge a fighter based on anecdotes and watching choreographed fight scenes.

Yeah I wonder how accurate those claims are as well
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The guys Bruce Lee man course' he can.
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#82 scorch-62
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The true questions is "Could MMA/UFC hold its own against Bruce Lee?" to which the answer is no.
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Bruce Lee wouldn't be elgiable of even joining, he was on steroids when he died.sSubZerOo
no he wasnt...
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#84 nopenoway0
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UFC. No. MMA. No. Real fight on the streets? No rules. Bring on anyone he'll knock em' flat. I think he could be good at MMA and UFC, but that wasn't what he trained for. In a fight to the death with just fists? He could KILL anyone. We've all heard of the one inch punch. If he hit you in your kidney with that...bye bye kidney.

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#85 mastershake575
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Not only was he good at martial arts but he could do 50 ONE ARMED pull ups, curl 80 pound dumbells for 8x3. could punch faster than anybody, and could cause a 300 pound punching bag to go flying in the arm...... You would have to be an idiot ifyou think a lightweight UFC fighter wouldpush him around in the UFC..... espically since his judo was much better than most think

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are you serious? are we talking about the same bruce lee? of course he's mother %^$%ing bruce lee dammit!! he'd beat em all to a pulp before any had a chance to breath!
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short answer.....yes.

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Strenth isn't everything.

Good technique vs. HUGE guy and Terrible technique

Sure Bruce Lee had GREAT technique, but justifying that because of his strength he would do well. Nah. We all know Tank Abbot can bench 600lbs. Even if he bounces it off his chest, that's pretty strong. BUT he's far from the best fighter.

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[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]No, he's dead.D3nnyCrane

That was lame. :|

So was that.

And that.
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#90 clayron
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Strenth isn't everything.

Good technique vs. HUGE guy and Terrible technique

Sure Bruce Lee had GREAT technique, but justifying that because of his strength he would do well. Nah. We all know Tank Abbot can bench 600lbs. Even if he bounces it off his chest, that's pretty strong. BUT he's far from the best fighter.

nopenoway0

Yes, strength is not everything. But an incredible amount of strength coupled with an butt load of training would have made him quite an obstacle for any fighter to overcome. Not saying it could not happen, but its Bruce Lee.

The reason I think Bruce Lee would have done well in the UFC/MMA was because of his technique. He did nothing other than study martial arts and train - I mean, he actually studied the various types of martial arts. Like you said before, in a fight with clearly established rules he might have some trouble because he would not be able to just pick he opponenets apart, but I do not think many of todays fighters could hang with him even with those rules. Maybe some of the more elite fighters.

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#91 scorch-62
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short answer.....yes.

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Long answer... hell yes.
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#92 mastershake575
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[QUOTE="nopenoway0"]

Strenth isn't everything.

Good technique vs. HUGE guy and Terrible technique

Sure Bruce Lee had GREAT technique, but justifying that because of his strength he would do well. Nah. We all know Tank Abbot can bench 600lbs. Even if he bounces it off his chest, that's pretty strong. BUT he's far from the best fighter.

Uh didn't tank himself say that video was fake ? To me it has to be fake as hell since tank is only about 230 without his beer belly, is getting into his mid 40s, and the world record raw bench press is only 100 pounds more than that....... Basically there are very few people in the world that at there peak could bench 500 pounds so I don't know how legit this video is
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#94 Anti-Venom
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Bruce lee would rock all those dudes, UFC is a bunch of pansies compared to Bruce Lee
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]Hmm..doesn't fat give you energy?Dark-Sithious

If the body doesn't have enough stored glycogen in the cells, it will start to break down fattissue to get enough energy, and sometimes muscle tissue aswell.

If you have a very low bodyfat %, like less than 3% the body will feed on muscle cells mostlyand possibly other importantcells aswell, which ofc wears your body down and you become more susceptible to illness.

I thought it was something like that.
Could he be a contender? Maybe. A champion? Yeah, well, unless he worked on a couple things, probably not. Knowing Bruce Lee though, he probably would strive to get better. Bruce Lee as he was though, would struggle. The lack of takedown defence would lead to him being flat on his back, which would lead to him being pounded out, or even likelier still, submitted. As great as he was, he was still just a striker and more often than not, one dimensional fighters just don't cut the mustard these days. That said, if Lee were alive today, he'd probably be working on his ground game and takedown defence....frankly, Bruce Lee with takedown defence...that would be scary. If Mirko Cro Cop managed to do so much damage in Pride as a brutal striker with takedown defence, Lord knows what Lee could do. As it stands though....Fedor vs Bruce Lee = Fedor by armbar :PPaladin_King
Yes we all know Fedor would kill Bruce Lee. lol