if he knew the rules he probably wouldent want to fight, i mean come on his first moves were eye gouge then ball kick ;)
but serioulsy he would knock out fighters in the ufc twice before they hit the ground8)
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I betcha I'd do well in MMA and UFC.... I'd smack them with my ROFLWAFFLE hammer and BLAMMO they're on the ground with penis for legs and clown hair coming out their ass.
I think a goodgrapler could tear that thin body to pieces. If a good ground fighter got him onthe ground he would be done for.
Bruce was great in the fields he was great at, but he was no UFC fighter
I agree but that's because the rules of mma would keep bruce from being able to do some things. like face kicking while your down or strikes to the back and back of head. and of course the low blows :)I think a goodgrapler could tear that thin body to pieces. If a good ground fighter got him onthe ground he would be done for.
Bruce was great in the fields he was great at, but he was no UFC fighter
Dark-Sithious
I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...
I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.
I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.
I don't think he would do that well.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.
Bruce Lee knew Jujitsu so NO he is NOT overrated. it's one thing to be able to do moves and it's a completely different thing to fight......Okay soap guy.:?[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]
I bet Bruce Lee is up in heaven kicking names and taking ass.
BumFluff122
Is it possible that his body fat percentage put him to death? I mean having such a low body fat can make you look really strong, but on the long term your body is getting really worn out.
He is one of the most disciplined and talented fighters to exist. I definitely believe he could do well in those.
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]I agree but that's because the rules of mma would keep bruce from being able to do some things. like face kicking while your down or strikes to the back and back of head. and of course the low blows :)I think a goodgrapler could tear that thin body to pieces. If a good ground fighter got him onthe ground he would be done for.
Bruce was great in the fields he was great at, but he was no UFC fighter
Ontain
Yeah, if it was a no rule street fight I think Bruce could kill most, possibly in a matter of seconds. MMA fighters doesn't know how to perform lethal moves, Bruce did.
[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]
[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]
I bet Bruce Lee is up in heaven kicking names and taking ass.
:?Is it possible that his body fat percentage put him to death? I mean having such a low body fat can make you look really strong, but on the long term your body is getting really worn out.
Hmm..doesn't fat give you energy?Thats pretty much how I feel. I LOVE Bruce Lee, but I question how legit some people's claims about him are. Its like Chuck Norris jokes, except the people saying them are serious. You can't judge a fighter based on anecdotes and watching choreographed fight scenes.I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...
I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.
I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.
I don't think he would do that well.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.
FlyingArmbar
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gunswordfist
Is it possible that his body fat percentage put him to death? I mean having such a low body fat can make you look really strong, but on the long term your body is getting really worn out.
Hmm..doesn't fat give you energy?If the body doesn't have enough stored glycogen in the cells, it will start to break down fattissue to get enough energy, and sometimes muscle tissue aswell.
If you have a very low bodyfat %, like less than 3% the body will feed on muscle cells mostlyand possibly other importantcells aswell, which ofc wears your body down and you become more susceptible to illness.
Bruce was awsome during his time but this is a different era. I think he would have a rough time against some of the better fighters. Now if they had MMA/UFC during Bruce's time then I would say heck yeah!
I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.
I do not think he would do well in MMA/UFC. His fighting style focused on speed, technique, and brutality. Physically he would be a match for any contender because he took his body way too seriously, his small 160-170 frame was misleading when it came to exerting force. Anyone who knows about Bruce Lee can tell you that he could produce an excellent amount of speed and/or power.
What people do not know about Mr. Lee is that he did not like violence. In fact, he often declined to fight people when pride was the key motivator. If he was alive today he might not even like the MMA/UFC.
I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.
clayron
Unfortunately, in MMA, the best fighters ARE well-rounded, or at least trained in all areas. Was Bruce Lee actually well acquainted/trained in submissions?
Your post doesn't answer my key question: a world-class fighter with world-class submissions takes him down. Bruce is flat on his back. What will he do. Will he be able to defend against the submissions? Will he be able to find one?
You seem to suggest that due to the media attention put to on his striking, that his grappling/ground game were ignored. Could you fill me in on his grappling/submissions/wrestling credentials? I've never come across them.
Frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not people paid more attention to his knockout ability than his submissions ability, fact remains that flat on his back, Bruce will not be finding a knockout.
[QUOTE="clayron"]
I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.
Unfortunately, in MMA, the best fighters ARE well-rounded, or at least trained in all areas. Was Bruce Lee actually well acquainted/trained in submissions?
Your post doesn't answer my key question: a world-class fighter with world-class submissions takes him down. Bruce is flat on his back. What will he do. Will he be able to defend against the submissions? Will he be able to find one?
You seem to suggest that due to the media attention put to on his striking, that his grappling/ground game were ignored. Could you fill me in on his grappling/submissions/wrestling credentials? I've never come across them.
Frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not people paid more attention to his knockout ability than his submissions ability, fact remains that flat on his back, Bruce will not be finding a knockout.
Didn't Buce Lee take Jui jutsu though? I think Bruce Lee would have been great on his feet but ok on his back. He would train alot though to work on it.I think Bruce Lee could most likely hold his own. He probably would need to learn some other disciplines to make him complete because martial arts always evolves. Thanks to Bruce for inspiring many of the best martial artists of today
Bruce Lee could do fingertip push-ups......maybe some Special Forces soldiers could do that - but not all of them.
A better question would be, "Could Bruce Lee defeat Frank Dux" (real-life subject of the Bloodsport movie)?
[QUOTE="Paladin_King"][QUOTE="clayron"]
I do not believe Bruce Lee was a one dimensional fighter. Like most fighter he exceled in one particular category; striking. However, that does not necessarily mean he was lacking in other areas such as grappling, or ground game. In his time, or more specifically during his famous years, people cared more about how many time he could hit you in 7 seconds as opposed to how quickly he could choke you out.
MgamerBD
Unfortunately, in MMA, the best fighters ARE well-rounded, or at least trained in all areas. Was Bruce Lee actually well acquainted/trained in submissions?
Your post doesn't answer my key question: a world-class fighter with world-class submissions takes him down. Bruce is flat on his back. What will he do. Will he be able to defend against the submissions? Will he be able to find one?
You seem to suggest that due to the media attention put to on his striking, that his grappling/ground game were ignored. Could you fill me in on his grappling/submissions/wrestling credentials? I've never come across them.
Frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not people paid more attention to his knockout ability than his submissions ability, fact remains that flat on his back, Bruce will not be finding a knockout.
Didn't Buce Lee take Jui jutsu though? I think Bruce Lee would have been great on his feet but ok on his back. He would train alot though to work on it.I believe that was one discipline he studied. I know he trained with someone who knew Jiu Jitsu for a number of years. So, I think he would be able to hold his own in a ground game. He may not be an expert, but I do not think he would get easily outdone.
I do not understand how you can say he would just flat out lose on his back. No one knew the extent of his martial arts prowess. It is likely he had some experience with grappling, and even ground game.
[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]Bruce Lee knew Jujitsu so NO he is NOT overrated. it's one thing to be able to do moves and it's a completely different thing to fight......I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...
I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.
I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.
I don't think he would do that well.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.
Selpy
there are stories (who knows how true they are) of competetive fighters challenging him on set, then being owned by him. I think a big reason of his fame is because of his astonishing level of fitness. He had 2% body fat and could do 2 finger push ups anddo leg raises on his shoulder blades as an example
I think he was pretty over-rated to be honest. Can anyone show me the record of him fighting anyone who was truly skilled? His most well documented fights were in a college boxing tournament... The best evidence for Bruce Lee being a good fighter is that he beat up a few amateur boxers...
I respect him for bringing asian martial arts (good times) to western cinema, but the idea that he was some kind of phenomenal fighter doesn't hold much weight with me.
I think as a striker he would be above average in comparison to other strikers, but he wouldn't be at the top of his weight class. With regards to his wrestling and BJJ, the little he knew wouldn't do him any good, he'd be like a child in the hands of a wrestler or grappler.
I don't think he would do that well.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put on my suit of armour.
Thats pretty much how I feel. I LOVE Bruce Lee, but I question how legit some people's claims about him are. Its like Chuck Norris jokes, except the people saying them are serious. You can't judge a fighter based on anecdotes and watching choreographed fight scenes. Yeah I wonder how accurate those claims are as wellBruce Lee wouldn't be elgiable of even joining, he was on steroids when he died.sSubZerOono he wasnt...
UFC. No. MMA. No. Real fight on the streets? No rules. Bring on anyone he'll knock em' flat. I think he could be good at MMA and UFC, but that wasn't what he trained for. In a fight to the death with just fists? He could KILL anyone. We've all heard of the one inch punch. If he hit you in your kidney with that...bye bye kidney.
Not only was he good at martial arts but he could do 50 ONE ARMED pull ups, curl 80 pound dumbells for 8x3. could punch faster than anybody, and could cause a 300 pound punching bag to go flying in the arm...... You would have to be an idiot ifyou think a lightweight UFC fighter wouldpush him around in the UFC..... espically since his judo was much better than most think
Strenth isn't everything.
Good technique vs. HUGE guy and Terrible technique
Sure Bruce Lee had GREAT technique, but justifying that because of his strength he would do well. Nah. We all know Tank Abbot can bench 600lbs. Even if he bounces it off his chest, that's pretty strong. BUT he's far from the best fighter.
[QUOTE="howlrunner13"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]No, he's dead.D3nnyCrane
That was lame. :|
So was that. And that.Strenth isn't everything.
Good technique vs. HUGE guy and Terrible technique
Sure Bruce Lee had GREAT technique, but justifying that because of his strength he would do well. Nah. We all know Tank Abbot can bench 600lbs. Even if he bounces it off his chest, that's pretty strong. BUT he's far from the best fighter.
nopenoway0
Yes, strength is not everything. But an incredible amount of strength coupled with an butt load of training would have made him quite an obstacle for any fighter to overcome. Not saying it could not happen, but its Bruce Lee.
The reason I think Bruce Lee would have done well in the UFC/MMA was because of his technique. He did nothing other than study martial arts and train - I mean, he actually studied the various types of martial arts. Like you said before, in a fight with clearly established rules he might have some trouble because he would not be able to just pick he opponenets apart, but I do not think many of todays fighters could hang with him even with those rules. Maybe some of the more elite fighters.
Strenth isn't everything.
Good technique vs. HUGE guy and Terrible technique
Sure Bruce Lee had GREAT technique, but justifying that because of his strength he would do well. Nah. We all know Tank Abbot can bench 600lbs. Even if he bounces it off his chest, that's pretty strong. BUT he's far from the best fighter.
Uh didn't tank himself say that video was fake ? To me it has to be fake as hell since tank is only about 230 without his beer belly, is getting into his mid 40s, and the world record raw bench press is only 100 pounds more than that....... Basically there are very few people in the world that at there peak could bench 500 pounds so I don't know how legit this video is[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]Hmm..doesn't fat give you energy?Dark-Sithious
If the body doesn't have enough stored glycogen in the cells, it will start to break down fattissue to get enough energy, and sometimes muscle tissue aswell.
If you have a very low bodyfat %, like less than 3% the body will feed on muscle cells mostlyand possibly other importantcells aswell, which ofc wears your body down and you become more susceptible to illness.
I thought it was something like that.Could he be a contender? Maybe. A champion? Yeah, well, unless he worked on a couple things, probably not. Knowing Bruce Lee though, he probably would strive to get better. Bruce Lee as he was though, would struggle. The lack of takedown defence would lead to him being flat on his back, which would lead to him being pounded out, or even likelier still, submitted. As great as he was, he was still just a striker and more often than not, one dimensional fighters just don't cut the mustard these days. That said, if Lee were alive today, he'd probably be working on his ground game and takedown defence....frankly, Bruce Lee with takedown defence...that would be scary. If Mirko Cro Cop managed to do so much damage in Pride as a brutal striker with takedown defence, Lord knows what Lee could do. As it stands though....Fedor vs Bruce Lee = Fedor by armbar :PPaladin_KingYes we all know Fedor would kill Bruce Lee. lol
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