The U.S. is now "officially" done with the Iraq War.

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#101 MetroidPrimePwn
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So NOW would be a good time to have the president having pictures taken in front of a Mission Accomplished banner :P

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#102 Vader993
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Thank god. Get those soldiers home. Thank you all for your service and remember those who lost their lives over there. I lost a good friend to that war and what was accomplished?

drufeous

we got lots of oil

good old captailism

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#103 Vader993
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there are still about 50,000 troops left in Iraq, so i wouldn't say the U.S. is COMPLETELY done with Iraq, Those troops will be stationed there till May of next year when they will all be withdrawn from the area. But I am glad that majority of the soldiers will be coming back to their homes.

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they should keep some in

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#104 ragek1ll589
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Believe it or not, a lot of people supported Saddam Hussein and that's why they opposed the war.

Many liberals in the US support him.

p2250

Where, may I ask, are you getting this information?

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#106 biggest_loser
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I hate reading how the soldier boys think that it was won in the first few years when there were no weapons found and the whole place was left on the brink of civil war.
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#107 Vader993
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yep we are done look at the wiki page :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

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#108 Serraph105
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Starting a war then leaving early forcing the British & coalition troops to sort it out, excellent :/mikegtfc
how long until it's no longer early? When an everlasting peace has spread across the land?
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#109 Vader993
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the wiki page is never wrong,the war is over

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#110 bbkkristian
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We're Done, but I don't think we won the War. We just left. Did they really achieve freedom? (Good for the troops I'm glad they're getting home. :) )
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#111 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="drufeous"]

Thank god. Get those soldiers home. Thank you all for your service and remember those who lost their lives over there. I lost a good friend to that war and what was accomplished?

Vader993

we got lots of oil

good old captailism

People still believe that? :?

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#113 the_new_guy_92
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the wiki page is never wrong,the war is over

Vader993

:) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

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#114 Jaguar_Shade
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[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]We pwned Iraq. If your typica liberal pinhead knew what kinda things went on in that country before we went in, they'd shut up. Just Saddam's sons alone would make you puke.Stesilaus

If only your typical conservative pinhead knew who put Saddam Hussein in power in the first place ...

Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power

oooh oohh I know this one. Bush? Anyway, while it is written down on a piece of paper, the war is over, tell that to the guerrilla fighters still there. In a few years time Baghdad will be back under the control of another powerful dictator, the whole conflict looks like a copy paste job from Vietnam.
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#115 the_new_guy_92
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]We pwned Iraq. If your typica liberal pinhead knew what kinda things went on in that country before we went in, they'd shut up. Just Saddam's sons alone would make you puke.Jaguar_Shade

If only your typical conservative pinhead knew who put Saddam Hussein in power in the first place ...

Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power

oooh oohh I know this one. Bush? Anyway, while it is written down on a piece of paper, the war is over, tell that to the guerrilla fighters still there. In a few years time Baghdad will be back under the control of another powerful dictator, the whole conflict looks like a copy paste job from Vietnam.

I Hope that doesn't happen, but I don't doubt it can happen.
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#116 Jaguar_Shade
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If the people seized power by their own means, it means that government is strong enough. But if the government was given power by a foreign nation and then that nation leaves then there will be a power vacuum. Maybe not immediately, but over time the strongest will seize power again, most likely a warlord of some form. The whole war is a massive waste. a trillion dollars wasted and 4400+ lives wasted. For what? An ad-hoc democracy for 10 years before it's replaced by the next warlord? It's a case of, count your losses and move on, or invest even more resources. No one is the winner.
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#117 Fightingfan
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And now the debate will turn to "Did we win or did we loose?"Treflis
We lost, we didn't find Osama Bin laden. Now whats the score two loses for USA now? Iraq *check Vietnam *Check
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#118 the_new_guy_92
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[QUOTE="Treflis"]And now the debate will turn to "Did we win or did we loose?"Fightingfan
We lost, we didn't find Osama Bin laden. Now whats the score two loses for USA now? Iraq *check Vietnam *Check

We didn't go into Iraq for Osama. That was Afghanistan.
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#119 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="GD-1369211121"] Yes, your right. We should of just let Saddam kill everyone there. Come on... Seriously? The US has been the world police in just about every war. Maybe you should read a history book sometime, you might learn something.

Apocalypse33


I almost spat my beer out when I read that. :lol:

I do hope you realise that congress has not formally declared war since 1942. Anyway, so you justify the invasion of Iraq by claiming that Saddam would have killed everyone. Well what about eastern Africa? What about the Somalian and Sudanese which are being oppressed because they are a certain ethnicity or religion? Just because America has acted like the world police (for the most part it hasn't, the Korean war was completely justified, I wouldn't say the same about Vietnam, Kosovo was worse AND backed by a UN resolution, etc.) doesnt mean that it is appreciated.

Africa doesn't have oil, duh!!! At least as readily accessible.


I'll just stop wasting my time.

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#120 jetpower3
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]We pwned Iraq. If your typica liberal pinhead knew what kinda things went on in that country before we went in, they'd shut up. Just Saddam's sons alone would make you puke.Jaguar_Shade

If only your typical conservative pinhead knew who put Saddam Hussein in power in the first place ...

Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power

oooh oohh I know this one. Bush? Anyway, while it is written down on a piece of paper, the war is over, tell that to the guerrilla fighters still there. In a few years time Baghdad will be back under the control of another powerful dictator, the whole conflict looks like a copy paste job from Vietnam.

The Iraq War is completely different than the Vietnam War. No countries are divided in half, there is no Soviet Union and friends backing the opposition, the Vietnam War lasted at least 16 years and escalated very slowly, while this happened rather quickly, so far there have not been numerous coup d e'tats in a short time span, the Vietnam War was far more combat based than this one, and the insurgents in Iraq control little of the population.

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#121 cybrcatter
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The country was better off under Saddam for this one reason:

The various factions and groups feared him more than they hated each other.

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#122 jetpower3
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The country was better off under Saddam for this one reason: The the various factions and groups feared him more than they hated each other. cybrcatter

That or the aforementioned dissolution of Saddam's Iraqi security forces after the invasion, which allowed said groups to gain a foothold and entrench themselves in the country to carry out their own agenda in the power vacuum.

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#123 p00zer
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Now on to the next one. :lol:lilasianwonder
Yep.

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#124 MaxPred2010
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Iran... now it's your turn. You too North Korea. Nuke their ass, take their gas!
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#125 TheNewEraIcon
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I guess I'll take the optimistic route and say for the moment it looks like the nightmare is just about over 8)

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#126 sergemyster8
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So who won?

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#127 Vader993
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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

If only your typical conservative pinhead knew who put Saddam Hussein in power in the first place ...

Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power

jetpower3

oooh oohh I know this one. Bush? Anyway, while it is written down on a piece of paper, the war is over, tell that to the guerrilla fighters still there. In a few years time Baghdad will be back under the control of another powerful dictator, the whole conflict looks like a copy paste job from Vietnam.

The Iraq War is completely different than the Vietnam War. No countries are divided in half, there is no Soviet Union and friends backing the opposition, the Vietnam War lasted at least 16 years and escalated very slowly, while this happened rather quickly, so far there have not been numerous coup d e'tats in a short time span, the Vietnam War was far more combat based than this one, and the insurgents in Iraq control little of the population.

south vietnamese flag i got it,your vietnamese

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#128 Vader993
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So who won?

sergemyster8

i guess we won,we got the oil everyone is happy :)

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#129 SilentSoprano
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Hell, it's about time.

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#131 ragek1ll589
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So who won?

sergemyster8

Democracy ;)

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#132 Vader993
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i say oil ;)

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#133 Jfisch93
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Now we can focus more on securing our borders, things are getting out of hand.

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#134 shinian
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We pwned Iraq. If your typica liberal pinhead knew what kinda things went on in that country before we went in, they'd shut up. Just Saddam's sons alone would make you puke.MaxPred2010

Make some new excuses. That war was unjust - the society was told that the initial reasons for invasion were: WMD being developed in Iraq and Saddam having ties with Al Qaeda. Time proved both those claims to be untrue. During Saddam's regime (24 years) 1 million of Iraqi people lost their lives. Another 1 million lives was lost as the result of peace forces intervention - and that took place only across 7 years.

On top of that after taking Baghdad, US forces only secured The Ministry of Oil, the National Museum was plundered and National Library was burned to the ground. That places contained some artifacts that were over 4000 years old.

Moreover the puppet government of Iraq will collapse soon after the coalition troops pull out.

So yeah, USA USA USA USA USA USA USA.

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#135 Jfisch93
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[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]We pwned Iraq. If your typica liberal pinhead knew what kinda things went on in that country before we went in, they'd shut up. Just Saddam's sons alone would make you puke.shinian

Make some new excuses. That war was unjust - the society was told that the initial reasons for invasion were: WMD being developed in Iraq and Saddam having ties with Al Qaeda. Time proved both those claims to be untrue. During Saddam's regime (24 years) 1 million of Iraqi people lost their lives. Another 1 million lives was lost as the result of peace forces intervention - and that took place only across 7 years.

On top of that after taking Baghdad, US forces only secured The Ministry of Oil, the National Museum was plundered and National Library was burned to the ground. That places contained some artifacts that were over 4000 years old.

Moreover the puppet government of Iraq will collapse soon after the coalition troops pull out.

So yeah, USA USA USA USA USA USA USA.

I'm not defending the other guy, but do you really think it's easy to prevent civillian casualties in war? And that's without even mentioning the cowardly way these terrorists fight, it makes it extremely difficult to get anything done.

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#136 shinian
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[QUOTE="shinian"]

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]We pwned Iraq. If your typica liberal pinhead knew what kinda things went on in that country before we went in, they'd shut up. Just Saddam's sons alone would make you puke.Jfisch93

Make some new excuses. That war was unjust - the society was told that the initial reasons for invasion were: WMD being developed in Iraq and Saddam having ties with Al Qaeda. Time proved both those claims to be untrue. During Saddam's regime (24 years) 1 million of Iraqi people lost their lives. Another 1 million lives was lost as the result of peace forces intervention - and that took place only across 7 years.

On top of that after taking Baghdad, US forces only secured The Ministry of Oil, the National Museum was plundered and National Library was burned to the ground. That places contained some artifacts that were over 4000 years old.

Moreover the puppet government of Iraq will collapse soon after the coalition troops pull out.

So yeah, USA USA USA USA USA USA USA.

I'm not defending the other guy, but do you really think it's easy to prevent civillian casualties in war? And that's without even mentioning the cowardly way these terrorists fight, it makes it extremely difficult to get anything done.

Of course it's not easy. I'm just proving my point that Iraqi people aren't better of after the stabilization mission.

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#137 Palantas
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You mean the US military is done with Iraq. There's still a ton of mercenaries and civilians over there.

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#138 applesxc47
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Bout time.

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#139 Vader993
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Iran... now it's your turn. You too North Korea. Nuke their ass, take their gas!MaxPred2010

i heard that,i am iranian

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#140 Danm_999
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Now, the most important question of all: What has been learned?
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#141 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="sergemyster8"]

So who won?

ragek1ll589

Democracy ;)

Not really. There's already been vote rigging and mass bannings of candidates based on faulty accusations that they were members of Saddam's bath party. :(
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#142 Gundamforce
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So i guess...

So yeah, USA USA USA USA USA USA USA.

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#143 Mochyc
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And now the debate will turn to "Did we win or did we loose?"Treflis
That really depends on what is to come. If Iraq becomes a stable democracy, then you win.
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#144 p2250
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Iraqis should've not cheered and celebrated the deaths on 9/11.

Otherwise, I would have some sympathy for them, but I don't and never will ever again.

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#145 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="p2250"]

Iraqis should've have cheered and celebrated the deaths on 9/11.

Otherwise, I would have some sympathy for them, but I don't and never will ever again.

so they didn't cheer and you're mad at them?
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#146 The_Kliq
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I suppose I am a little happy.
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#147 Lto_thaG
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So....Who's next?Belgium?

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#148 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="p2250"]

Iraqis should've not cheered and celebrated the deaths on 9/11.

Otherwise, I would have some sympathy for them, but I don't and never will ever again.

ahh my bad. It's early and I haven't finished my coffee yet.
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#149 Serraph105
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So....Who's next?Belgium?

Lto_thaG
I'm thinking England. We haven't fought them for a while.
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#150 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

So....Who's next?Belgium?

Serraph105
I'm thinking England. We haven't fought them for a while.

They can have England.