The War on Drugs...do you think it's effective?

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#1 Palax
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The War is failing miserably, it's costing us a fortune, and we are locking up non-violent citizens. It seems as if our government instigates this war on drugs to artifically inflate the prices of drugs. It also paves the way for corruption and violence especially when you deal with the more expensive narcotics. It wastes the valuable time of our police force who should be protecting our cities from violent criminals.

I've always had the philosphy that if a person wants to get high then there is nothing that's going to stop that person except for a little self-control. Making the drugs more expensive only makes things slightly more difficult

The whole idea of having to spend so much money on a plant that grows in nature is ridiculous. You can buy a head of iceberg lettuce for about $1.00. On the other hand a few grams of marijuana can cost $10.

This is just like the War on Terror. This is not a war that can be won, and it's entire existence is here to give us a false sense of government responsibility.

That's just my opinion though, and I really want to hear yours concerning this very important issue. I am hoping that one day we can all come together with the conclusion that this war needs to be disbanded.

Below is a Wiki link showing some of the costs and effects of The War on Drugs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs

The cost :

"The U.S. government estimates the cost of the War on Drugs by calculating the funds used in attempting to control the supply of illegal drugs, in paying government employees involved in waging the war on crack, and to satisfy rehabilitation costs. This total was estimated by the federal U.S. government's cost report on drug control to be roughly $12 billion in 2005. Additionally, in a separate report, the U.S. government reports that the cost of incarcerating drug law offenders was $30.1 billion—$9.1 billion for police protection, $4.5 billion for legal adjudication, and $11.0 billion for state and federal corrections. In total, roughly $45.5 billion was spent in 2005 for these factors.[2] The socioeconomic costs, as well as the individual costs (i.e., the personal disadvantages in income and career), caused by the incarceration of millions of people are not included in this number. Nor are the many real wars fought in the name of the "War on Drugs" included.

In 1998 the total cost of drug abuse in America was estimated at $143.4 billion.[3] This number, however, includes indirect costs and includes some costs of drug policy enforcement, and so is not directly comparable."

The effects :

"Drug use has increased in all categories since prohibition.[4] Since 1937, the use of marijuana, once an activity seemingly limited to Mexican immigrants and jazz musicians,[5] has become one undertaken by up to 50% of the youth of the United States.[4] Between 1972 and 1988 the use of cocaine increased more than fivefold.[6] The usage patterns of the current two most prevalent drugs, methamphetamine and ecstasy, have shown similar gains.[4] "

"In 1994, it was reported that the War on Drugs results in the incarceration of one million Americans each year.[12] Of the related drug arrests, about 225,000 are for simple possession of marijuana, the fourth most common cause of arrest in the United States.[13] In the 1980s, while the number of arrests for all crimes was rising 28%, the number of arrests for drug offenses rose 126%.[14] The United States has a higher proportion of its population incarcerated than any other country in the world for which reliable statistics are available, reaching a total of 2.2 million inmates in the U.S. in 2005. The U.S. Dept. of Justice, reporting on the effects of state initiatives, has stated that, from 1990 through 2000, "the increasing number of drug offenses accounted for 27% of the total growth among black inmates, 7% of the total growth among Hispanic inmates, and 15% of the growth among white inmates."

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#2 quiglythegreat
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There are no drugs that are not availible to me as a high school student.
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#3 Frattracide
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No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.
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#4 needled24-7
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Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

But anyways, I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, and other drugs, for that matter. There should be laws regarding them, of course.

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#5 Dracargen
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Yeah, non-violent citizens. Selling harmful (and often addictive) substances to teenagers was never non-violent.:roll:

The war on drugs is going horribly; that's why it needs to be refined.

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Yeah, non-violent citizens. Selling harmful (and often addictive) substances to teenagers was never non-violent.:roll:

The war on drugs is going horribly; that's why it needs to be refined.

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It can't really be refined. There are no approaches to this problem that are going to so much as reduce consumption of narcotics. You can try tighter border security. They'll just send over more product. You can try rehab. That only means the ones who get caught go clean. You can hand out needles and that only stops HIV. You can try more education but then kids are just going to be more familiar with how it works before trying anything.
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thier really is no war on drugs, you know how much money the black goverment makes off this? Ill say one thing, its more money than our nation security yearly budget is.
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Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

But anyways, I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, and other drugs, for that matter. There should be laws regarding them, of course.

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The cost of weed varies from region to region and also varies by quality so I kinda guestimated.

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Yeah, non-violent citizens. Selling harmful (and often addictive) substances to teenagers was never non-violent.:roll:

The war on drugs is going horribly; that's why it needs to be refined.

quiglythegreat

It can't really be refined. There are no approaches to this problem that are going to so much as reduce consumption of narcotics. You can try tighter border security. They'll just send over more product. You can try rehab. That only means the ones who get caught go clean. You can hand out needles and that only stops HIV. You can try more education but then kids are just going to be more familiar with how it works before trying anything.

So let's do nothing?

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thier really is no war on drugs, you know how much money the black goverment makes off this? Ill say one thing, its more money than our nation security yearly budget is. AndrewStar101

"Black government"?

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The War on Drugs is moronic.

Anybody remember prohibition and Al Capone? >_>

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I lived in Georgia when I was in elementary skool, and Georgia started up a program called D.A.R.E. I don't remember what the initials stood for but it was a program to try and educate kids on the dangers of drugs.

The program was such a failure that it was disbanded not long after getting started.

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I dont really think it works.

How exactly do you stop someone from doing something to their own body in their own privacy? Its not really possible to win.

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No, and it will never be effective.
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No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Frattracide

I like this guy I couldn't agree more.

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Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

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I've gotten decent stuff for $45 an ounce.

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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

But anyways, I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, and other drugs, for that matter. There should be laws regarding them, of course.

Palax

The cost of weed varies from region to region and also varies by quality so I kinda guestimated.

Around here, a few grams of mids is a little less than $20. I think in most places, a few grams for less than $15 probably isn't very good.
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#18 jealentus
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WTF? Where can you get a few grams for $10?? Tel me!!

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No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Frattracide

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Yeah, non-violent citizens. Selling harmful (and often addictive) substances to teenagers was never non-violent.:roll:

The war on drugs is going horribly; that's why it needs to be refined.

Dracargen

It can't really be refined. There are no approaches to this problem that are going to so much as reduce consumption of narcotics. You can try tighter border security. They'll just send over more product. You can try rehab. That only means the ones who get caught go clean. You can hand out needles and that only stops HIV. You can try more education but then kids are just going to be more familiar with how it works before trying anything.

So let's do nothing?

More or less. Its not really the governments business what I do in my spare time in the privacy of my home.

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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

mikeg0788

I've gotten decent stuff for $45 an ounce.

Are you sure it wasn't laced with rat poison or anything? :P
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[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]

Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

But anyways, I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, and other drugs, for that matter. There should be laws regarding them, of course.

needled24-7

The cost of weed varies from region to region and also varies by quality so I kinda guestimated.

Around here, a few grams of mids is a little less than $20. I think in most places, a few grams for less than $15 probably isn't very good.

Well count yourself fortunate then. I hear they have good stuff in Canada and in other places, but here in Macon, Georgia it's about $25 or $30 for a quarter of weed quality ranging from dirt - mids. I usually buy what we call nicks or dimes which is usually a few grams of crappy to decent stuff. I know it's a ripoff but I don't like to spend a lot on marijuana.

but im getting off topic.......weed is way to damn expensive no matter what your paying. I should be able to get a pack of joints for about the same price as cigarettes.

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[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]

Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

But anyways, I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, and other drugs, for that matter. There should be laws regarding them, of course.

needled24-7

The cost of weed varies from region to region and also varies by quality so I kinda guestimated.

Around here, a few grams of mids is a little less than $20. I think in most places, a few grams for less than $15 probably isn't very good.

Christ, man, you're getting ripped. I can get an eighth ounce of kush for $50-60, which is $15-20 a gram.

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According to that I think that the Mexican war on drugs is more succesful than the one of the US.

The army is really catching some big fish this time

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[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]

Let me just start off saying that if you're buying a few grams of weed for $10, it's probably some crappy weed.

needled24-7

I've gotten decent stuff for $45 an ounce.

Are you sure it wasn't laced with rat poison or anything? :P

Well, I'm not dead yet. >_>

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Call your congress rep. and make change.
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[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>
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Call your congress rep. and make change.nirvana563

I've already sent letters with no response.

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A good portion of the US populace uses pot. The $500 billion of dollars that are poured into the "war on drugs" havn't stopped it, and $500 billion more will do nothing more.
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.PannicAtack

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

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[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Well, if you consider all the crime they fund, because they're illegal. The way they are unregulated and a dealer can cut in any substance they want, because they are illegal. The violence between cops and dealers they cause, because they are illegal. The fact that usage in countries with anti drug laws is higher than in countries with more lax laws. You can see why the fact that they are illegal is bad. Not to mention that the government shouldn't have the ability to regulate what a free person ingests.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

The difference, of course, being that killing someone is a direct infringement on their rights. Me taking a hit of acid after work infringes on no ones rights. At all.

And most drugs that are illegal now used to be legal, thus the analogy works.

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How the crap should I know?

I tend to ask the people who actually perform the arrests or work in a subject than trust internet information.

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Call your congress rep. and make change.nirvana563

It's the best I can do, but I am in the total minority here.

You must not know Georgia....The majority of Georgian's are pretty conservative. It's bible belt territory as well....

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Frattracide

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Well, if you consider all the crime they fund, because they're illegal. The way they are unregulated and a dealer can cut in any substance they want, because they are illegal. The violence between cops and dealers they cause, because they are illegal. The fact that usage in countries with anti drug laws is higher than in countries with more lax laws. You can see why the fact that they are illegal is bad. Not to mention that the government shouldn't have the ability to regulate what a free person ingests.

You mean to tell me drugs sell themselves? That drugs are the cause of this?

No. Drugs aren't half as bad as the potheads that tote them around.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

I agree it wouldn't work. Marijuana should be legalized and everything else should be illegal but you shouldn't go to jail if you are carrying a small amount of crack that just doesn't seem fair to me.

I think that's realistic to ask for at least....

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

You don't give criminals an economy by making murder illegal. There's no comparison. Is a man who takes a few snorts on the same level as a thief? >_>
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[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Well, if you consider all the crime they fund, because they're illegal. The way they are unregulated and a dealer can cut in any substance they want, because they are illegal. The violence between cops and dealers they cause, because they are illegal. The fact that usage in countries with anti drug laws is higher than in countries with more lax laws. You can see why the fact that they are illegal is bad. Not to mention that the government shouldn't have the ability to regulate what a free person ingests.

You mean to tell me drugs sell themselves? That drugs are the cause of this?

No. Drugs aren't half as bad as the potheads that tote them around.

Um. That didn't make any sense. Drugs are the cause of what?

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The "war" on drugs is as effective as trying to demolish a 100-story skyscraper with a screwdriver and a hammer.

If people want drugs they should have access to them... because safe, taxable methods are always better than unsafe, profitless methods. Someone who is addicted to a certain drug is going to get access to it any way they can, no matter if it is illegal or not. Same goes with guns.

I myself don't understand why tryptamines and other psychedelics are illegal in the first place considering they really have never done any damage to anyone... while alcohol and tobacco cause thousands upon thousands of deaths every year.
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.mikeg0788

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

The difference, of course, being that killing someone is a direct infringement on their rights. Me taking a hit of acid after work infringes on no ones rights. At all.

And most drugs that are illegal now used to be legal, thus the analogy works.

Oh no, nobody was ever harmed by drug usage other than the user. . .nope, not a single one. . .

When? The 1930s?:lol:

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Frattracide

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Well, if you consider all the crime they fund, because they're illegal. The way they are unregulated and a dealer can cut in any substance they want, because they are illegal. The violence between cops and dealers they cause, because they are illegal. The fact that usage in countries with anti drug laws is higher than in countries with more lax laws. You can see why the fact that they are illegal is bad. Not to mention that the government shouldn't have the ability to regulate what a free person ingests.

You mean to tell me drugs sell themselves? That drugs are the cause of this?

No. Drugs aren't half as bad as the potheads that tote them around.

Um. That didn't make any sense. Drugs are the cause of what?

You said that drugs are the cause of people being thrown in jail for selling them. The people selling the drugs aren't a factor? The drugs don't leap off the plant and sell themselves.

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[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

The difference, of course, being that killing someone is a direct infringement on their rights. Me taking a hit of acid after work infringes on no ones rights. At all.

And most drugs that are illegal now used to be legal, thus the analogy works.

Oh no, nobody was ever harmed by drug usage other than the user. . .nope, not a single one. . .

When? The 1930s?:lol:

By your logic, why not ban cars? Or planes? Or ice-cream? Or household pets?

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[QUOTE="nirvana563"]Call your congress rep. and make change.Palax

It's the best I can do, but I am in the total minority here.

You must not know Georgia....The majority of Georgian's are pretty conservative. It's bible belt territory as well....

The same statistics that show pot usage as growing put almost half of all the youth in America as people who engage in frequent drug use.

With those kinds of numbers, I think the main problem is that the people who do do it don't try hard enough to get it legalized.

Performing the action illegally is probably what they conceive as an easier alternative.

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Oh no, nobody was ever harmed by drug usage other than the user. . .nope, not a single one. . .

When? The 1930s?:lol:

Dracargen

Those are drug abusers, a clear minority. Its the equivalent of judging the entire army based on those who like to throw puppies off cliffs.

Some things weren't made illegal until the 60s-70s, and even then I'm not sure how the analogy fails just because they were legal a long time ago.

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No it's hardly effective and people who want their drugs get them. I say legalize it, tax it and put the money that would be going towards the drug war towards other things
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[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Well, if you consider all the crime they fund, because they're illegal. The way they are unregulated and a dealer can cut in any substance they want, because they are illegal. The violence between cops and dealers they cause, because they are illegal. The fact that usage in countries with anti drug laws is higher than in countries with more lax laws. You can see why the fact that they are illegal is bad. Not to mention that the government shouldn't have the ability to regulate what a free person ingests.

You mean to tell me drugs sell themselves? That drugs are the cause of this?

No. Drugs aren't half as bad as the potheads that tote them around.

Um. That didn't make any sense. Drugs are the cause of what?

You said that drugs are the cause of people being thrown in jail for selling them. The people selling the drugs aren't a factor? The drugs don't leap off the plant and sell themselves.

No, I said that drugs being illegal causes crime.

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You can say all of those exact same things about alcohol. >_>
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Frattracide

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

Make something illegal, people will still want it and get it through the black market. It solves nothing, and only gives an economy to organized crime. We all should've learned this with prohibition. Nothing was solved, and it only helped gangsters like Al Capone come to power. >_>

Yes, let's make everything legal because, hey, people do it anyway. The other day a man in my neighborhood threw his four infant children off a bridge; obviously, outlawing that isn't stopping people, so let's make it legal!

Prohibition didn't work because it was for alcohol, and alcohol was already legal.

The difference, of course, being that killing someone is a direct infringement on their rights. Me taking a hit of acid after work infringes on no ones rights. At all.

And most drugs that are illegal now used to be legal, thus the analogy works.

Oh no, nobody was ever harmed by drug usage other than the user. . .nope, not a single one. . .

When? The 1930s?:lol:

By your logic, why not ban cars? Or planes? Or ice-cream? Or household pets?

Because unlike cars, planes, ice cream, and household pets, drugs are dangerous and only useful under the watch of a physician.

You cannot have a good reason for using drugs without a prescription. You can't. The only things people can go on are "it's my body!" or "I'm feeling REALLY stressed" or "It feels gooooooood, maaaaan!"

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[QUOTE="Palax"]

[QUOTE="nirvana563"]Call your congress rep. and make change.-TheSecondSign-

It's the best I can do, but I am in the total minority here.

You must not know Georgia....The majority of Georgian's are pretty conservative. It's bible belt territory as well....

The same statistics that show pot usage as growing put almost half of all the youth in America as people who engage in frequent drug use.

With those kinds of numbers, I think the main problem is that the people who do do it don't try hard enough to get it legalized.

Performing the action illegally is probably what they conceive as an easier alternative.

We're too stoned man.....let's just get some chips....and stuff.

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#50 Dracargen
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You can say all of those exact same things about alcohol. >_>PannicAtack

Because I'm obviously supporting alcohol, because I explicitly stated that alcohol is good, and that alcohol is a completely different matter.