The War on Drugs...do you think it's effective?

It wouldn't matter if every anti-prohibitionist was a pothead who smoked 20 times a day, the points still stand (or, in the case of prohibitionists, the LACK of points).

mikeg0788

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I find the indictment of television fairly pertinent. People often use television to escape reality, and the result is a lethargic and disinterested population who care nothing about couchs and television sets. I'd say that's pretty harmful, not to mention the obesity and movies have caused by people simply sitting there watching them rather than being physically active. As well, theatres are often places where disease is spread, and let's not forget the hazards of getting there--especially if you drive.
EboyLOL

Then make a topic about it, because I'm not going after television.

God, are strawmen and faulty analogies all you people can do to justify your happy smoke? I'm tired of arguing with people who believe hippy studies over actual research.

Enjoy your acid, or peanut butter, or mixture of urine and feces, or whatever.

I have yet to make a straw man argument. Or a faulty analogy. Or to cite statistics for that matter.

Well, the most "heinous" drug I've ever taken is ranger candy. (800mg Ibiprofin) and only 'cause I just had my wisdom teeth pulled. I think he gave up though. :(

Thats a lot of ibuprofen, depending on how many pills he took.

I got lortabs when i got my teeth out. I think I took too many, cause i spent my first night after puking my guts out. I think I took 5-6 in about 12 hours. Is that a lot? I don't even know.

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

mikeg0788

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

mikeg0788

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

Thanks. :)

In the end cops usually arrest, well, idiots. How often do you hear about the smarter guys getting caught for MJ possession? Compared to the number of moronic potheads they arrest, very little.

Exactly. If you're not driving around or smoking in a park, or in some situation where you're obvious about what you're doing and putting others at risk, you likely won't get busted.

Well I have been caught 3 times, but two of those occurences came when I was a teenager and hiding from the parents.

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

Palax

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

I have had a lot of brushes with law enforcement concerning marijuana and I never once saw any sympathy from our law enforcement. Sometimes it seemed as if they enjoyed harassing us about marijuana.

Well then you'd know better than I would. My evidence is just hear-say. Did you ever get indicted?

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I find the indictment of television fairly pertinent. People often use television to escape reality, and the result is a lethargic and disinterested population who care nothing about couchs and television sets. I'd say that's pretty harmful, not to mention the obesity and movies have caused by people simply sitting there watching them rather than being physically active. As well, theatres are often places where disease is spread, and let's not forget the hazards of getting there--especially if you drive.
mikeg0788

Then make a topic about it, because I'm not going after television.

God, are strawmen and faulty analogies all you people can do to justify your happy smoke? I'm tired of arguing with people who believe hippy studies over actual research.

Enjoy your acid, or peanut butter, or mixture of urine and feces, or whatever.

I have yet to make a straw man argument. Or a faulty analogy. Or to cite statistics for that matter.

Well, the most "heinous" drug I've ever taken is ranger candy. (800mg Ibiprofin) and only 'cause I just had my wisdom teeth pulled. I think he gave up though. :(

Thats a lot of ibuprofen, depending on how many pills he took.

I got lortabs when i got my teeth out. I think I took too many, cause i spent my first night after puking my guts out. I think I took 5-6 in about 12 hours. Is that a lot? I don't even know.

Some people have allergic reactions to medicine and puke like that you should definitely inform your doctor. 5-6 lortabs is more than you should probably take, but I personally have seen people take 10+ so I think you'd be ok.

Some people have allergic reactions to medicine and puke like that you should definitely inform your doctor. 5-6 lortabs is more than you should probably take, but I personally have seen people take 10+ so I think you'd be ok.

Palax

I thought it might have been allergic, but I took 2 immediately after getting home and didn't feel nausea or sick at all until I went to bed that night.

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]No. The biggest danger from drugs is that they are illegal.Dracargen

That, and the physical and mental harm they cause.

the physical effects of heavy drug use is substantial.

the mental effects on the user and the people around/involved/family are equally if not more substantial.Not to mention most crimes are commited under the influence of a mind altering substance.

go look at some of the meth addicted individuals on the street and ask them what they would do for some meth. I bet it would blow your mind.

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

mikeg0788

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

I have had a lot of brushes with law enforcement concerning marijuana and I never once saw any sympathy from our law enforcement. Sometimes it seemed as if they enjoyed harassing us about marijuana.

Well then you'd know better than I would. My evidence is just hear-say. Did you ever get indicted?

Once I swallowed the marijuana before they could search. Resulted in a long and tedious search while laying down on pavement in humiliation.

Second time I was accused of smelling like marijuana when I hadn't smoke marijuana in two days. Resulted in a long and tedious search and harrasment from a sheriff.

Thid time I actually had a quarter of marijuana. I just bought it and we smoked the very first bowl when we hear a knock at our hotel door. My friend who was there opened the door without seeing who it is so in walks a security guard for the hotel. He sees the bag of weed immediately out on the bed, and the whole room smells like pot. He searches the entire room, luggage, us, and then he writes us a ticket to court. I had to pay a $500 fine and submit to random drug tests. Probation basically and although it is my fault I didn't stay clean long enough and got tested positive for THC. What's funny is that my girlfriend who got arrested with me at the hotel and was on probation as well had done cocaine two nights ago, but she passed her test. Anyway I was sent to Dekalb County Jail in Atlanta for 15 days. A horrible place that would give you nightmares. It was my own fault and it wasn't encessarily a drug offense as opposed to a violation of probation. Although having to be submitted to the tests to begin with was bullcrap.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I find the indictment of television fairly pertinent. People often use television to escape reality, and the result is a lethargic and disinterested population who care nothing about couchs and television sets. I'd say that's pretty harmful, not to mention the obesity and movies have caused by people simply sitting there watching them rather than being physically active. As well, theatres are often places where disease is spread, and let's not forget the hazards of getting there--especially if you drive.
mikeg0788

Then make a topic about it, because I'm not going after television.

God, are strawmen and faulty analogies all you people can do to justify your happy smoke? I'm tired of arguing with people who believe hippy studies over actual research.

Enjoy your acid, or peanut butter, or mixture of urine and feces, or whatever.

I have yet to make a straw man argument. Or a faulty analogy. Or to cite statistics for that matter.

Well, the most "heinous" drug I've ever taken is ranger candy. (800mg Ibiprofin) and only 'cause I just had my wisdom teeth pulled. I think he gave up though. :(

Thats a lot of ibuprofen, depending on how many pills he took.

I got lortabs when i got my teeth out. I think I took too many, cause i spent my first night after puking my guts out. I think I took 5-6 in about 12 hours. Is that a lot? I don't even know.

I average about one a day. The bottle says not to take more than one in a six hour period. They gave me vicodin too, but I haven't needed it.

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

Palax

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

I have had a lot of brushes with law enforcement concerning marijuana and I never once saw any sympathy from our law enforcement. Sometimes it seemed as if they enjoyed harassing us about marijuana.

Well then you'd know better than I would. My evidence is just hear-say. Did you ever get indicted?

Once I swallowed the marijuana before they could search. Resulted in a long and tedious search while laying down on pavement in humiliation.

Second time I was accused of smelling like marijuana when I hadn't smoke marijuana in two days. Resulted in a long and tedious search and harrasment from a sheriff.

Thid time I actually had a quarter of marijuana. I just bought it and we smoked the very first bowl when we hear a knock at our hotel door. My friend who was there opened the door without seeing who it is so in walks a security guard for the hotel. He sees the bag of weed immediately out on the bed, and the whole room smells like pot. He searches the entire room, luggage, us, and then he writes us a ticket to court. I had to pay a $500 fine and submit to random drug tests. Probation basically and although it is my fault I didn't stay clean long enough and got tested positive for THC. What's funny is that my girlfriend who got arrested with me at the hotel and was on probation as well had done cocaine two nights ago, but she passed her test. Anyway I was sent to Dekalb County Jail in Atlanta for 15 days. A horrible place that would give you nightmares. It was my own fault and it wasn't encessarily a drug offense as opposed to a violation of probation. Although having to be submitted to the tests to begin with was bullcrap.

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

the physical effects of heavy drug use is substantial.

the mental effects on the user and the people around/involved/family are equally if not more substantial.Not to mention most crimes are commited under the influence of a mind altering substance.

go look at some of the meth addicted individuals on the street and ask them what they would do for some meth. I bet it would blow your mind.

oback

So naturally we should throw them all in jail...

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

oback

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

I have had a lot of brushes with law enforcement concerning marijuana and I never once saw any sympathy from our law enforcement. Sometimes it seemed as if they enjoyed harassing us about marijuana.

Well then you'd know better than I would. My evidence is just hear-say. Did you ever get indicted?

Once I swallowed the marijuana before they could search. Resulted in a long and tedious search while laying down on pavement in humiliation.

Second time I was accused of smelling like marijuana when I hadn't smoke marijuana in two days. Resulted in a long and tedious search and harrasment from a sheriff.

Thid time I actually had a quarter of marijuana. I just bought it and we smoked the very first bowl when we hear a knock at our hotel door. My friend who was there opened the door without seeing who it is so in walks a security guard for the hotel. He sees the bag of weed immediately out on the bed, and the whole room smells like pot. He searches the entire room, luggage, us, and then he writes us a ticket to court. I had to pay a $500 fine and submit to random drug tests. Probation basically and although it is my fault I didn't stay clean long enough and got tested positive for THC. What's funny is that my girlfriend who got arrested with me at the hotel and was on probation as well had done cocaine two nights ago, but she passed her test. Anyway I was sent to Dekalb County Jail in Atlanta for 15 days. A horrible place that would give you nightmares. It was my own fault and it wasn't encessarily a drug offense as opposed to a violation of probation. Although having to be submitted to the tests to begin with was bullcrap.

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

Oh yes after lighting up a joint my first thought is "which bank am I going to rob tonight?" My second one is "Who shall I rape?"

the physical effects of heavy drug use is substantial.

the mental effects on the user and the people around/involved/family are equally if not more substantial.Not to mention most crimes are commited under the influence of a mind altering substance.

go look at some of the meth addicted individuals on the street and ask them what they would do for some meth. I bet it would blow your mind.

oback

You can't blame the drugs on people commiting crimes. Someone might commit a crime to acquire money for drugs, but being under the influence is probably an unfortuante side effect if they are an addict. It's not like they got hopped up on Crack and decided they wanted to cut someone's throat....Im sure this occurred somewhere but this would be a very rare occasion.

People on drugs tend to withdraw from other people and avoid society altogether where no crimes can really be comitted.

[QUOTE="oback"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

gobo212

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

I have had a lot of brushes with law enforcement concerning marijuana and I never once saw any sympathy from our law enforcement. Sometimes it seemed as if they enjoyed harassing us about marijuana.

Well then you'd know better than I would. My evidence is just hear-say. Did you ever get indicted?

Once I swallowed the marijuana before they could search. Resulted in a long and tedious search while laying down on pavement in humiliation.

Second time I was accused of smelling like marijuana when I hadn't smoke marijuana in two days. Resulted in a long and tedious search and harrasment from a sheriff.

Thid time I actually had a quarter of marijuana. I just bought it and we smoked the very first bowl when we hear a knock at our hotel door. My friend who was there opened the door without seeing who it is so in walks a security guard for the hotel. He sees the bag of weed immediately out on the bed, and the whole room smells like pot. He searches the entire room, luggage, us, and then he writes us a ticket to court. I had to pay a $500 fine and submit to random drug tests. Probation basically and although it is my fault I didn't stay clean long enough and got tested positive for THC. What's funny is that my girlfriend who got arrested with me at the hotel and was on probation as well had done cocaine two nights ago, but she passed her test. Anyway I was sent to Dekalb County Jail in Atlanta for 15 days. A horrible place that would give you nightmares. It was my own fault and it wasn't encessarily a drug offense as opposed to a violation of probation. Although having to be submitted to the tests to begin with was bullcrap.

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

Oh yes after lighting up a joint my first thought is "which bank am I going to rob tonight?" My second one is "Who shall I rape?"

It's just a lame excuse for "probable cause." Like the guy who said he got searched for smelling like weed.

Oh yes after lighting up a joint my first thought is "which bank am I going to rob tonight?" My second one is "Who shall I rape?"

us police officers have no idea what your on and who you are. dont expect us to know what you are about to do either.

you smelling like pot gives us probable cause a crime has been commited. hence a search

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

What I can't stand is the perception that cops are disgusted with any idea of drug usage. Pot or no pot, it's almost NEVER the individual cop's fault or even what he feels like spending his duty doing. You think Average Joe Cop enjoys interrogating obnoxious teenagers about whether or not Pete is selling Cannibis in the crapper?

No, people become cops to stop more deadly drugs, help put an end to as much crime as possbile, etc. etc.

My opinion on pot doesn't matter right now.

A lot of cops support the legalization of your good pal Mary Jane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Against_Prohibition

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), is a non-profit, international, educational organization comprised of former and current police officers, government agents and other law enforcement agents who oppose the current War on Drugs. LEAP was founded on March 16, 2002. It is modeled after Vietnam Veterans Against the War, an organization which earned its credibility by utilizing speakers who had been on the frontlines of the war they later denounced. Incorporated on March 16, 2002, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has grown from five founding police officers to a membership of over 6,500, including 125 speakers living in thirty-eight different states in the United States and eight other countries. LEAP now has members in 65 countries.

oback

Noone will comment about my post. :(

I read it. I've talked with cops about pot before, and they are generally apathetic towards it. If you're stupid and make it obvious you're either possessing or smoking pot or whatever, they'll bust you, but its not like they have a personal vendetta against pot heads.

Good post, btw.

I mentioned it earlier, but I live in Georgia.

I have had a lot of brushes with law enforcement concerning marijuana and I never once saw any sympathy from our law enforcement. Sometimes it seemed as if they enjoyed harassing us about marijuana.

Well then you'd know better than I would. My evidence is just hear-say. Did you ever get indicted?

Once I swallowed the marijuana before they could search. Resulted in a long and tedious search while laying down on pavement in humiliation.

Second time I was accused of smelling like marijuana when I hadn't smoke marijuana in two days. Resulted in a long and tedious search and harrasment from a sheriff.

Thid time I actually had a quarter of marijuana. I just bought it and we smoked the very first bowl when we hear a knock at our hotel door. My friend who was there opened the door without seeing who it is so in walks a security guard for the hotel. He sees the bag of weed immediately out on the bed, and the whole room smells like pot. He searches the entire room, luggage, us, and then he writes us a ticket to court. I had to pay a $500 fine and submit to random drug tests. Probation basically and although it is my fault I didn't stay clean long enough and got tested positive for THC. What's funny is that my girlfriend who got arrested with me at the hotel and was on probation as well had done cocaine two nights ago, but she passed her test. Anyway I was sent to Dekalb County Jail in Atlanta for 15 days. A horrible place that would give you nightmares. It was my own fault and it wasn't encessarily a drug offense as opposed to a violation of probation. Although having to be submitted to the tests to begin with was bullcrap.

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

That can be a double edged sword. Those searches that are deemed appropriate due to the law infraction pave the way for corruption. If someone can get thoroughly searched for having a glass pipe don't you see how this could be an easy opportunity to plant glass pipes or other stuff?

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

oback

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

Once I swallowed the marijuana before they could search. Resulted in a long and tedious search while laying down on pavement in humiliation.

Second time I was accused of smelling like marijuana when I hadn't smoke marijuana in two days. Resulted in a long and tedious search and harrasment from a sheriff.

Thid time I actually had a quarter of marijuana. I just bought it and we smoked the very first bowl when we hear a knock at our hotel door. My friend who was there opened the door without seeing who it is so in walks a security guard for the hotel. He sees the bag of weed immediately out on the bed, and the whole room smells like pot. He searches the entire room, luggage, us, and then he writes us a ticket to court. I had to pay a $500 fine and submit to random drug tests. Probation basically and although it is my fault I didn't stay clean long enough and got tested positive for THC. What's funny is that my girlfriend who got arrested with me at the hotel and was on probation as well had done cocaine two nights ago, but she passed her test. Anyway I was sent to Dekalb County Jail in Atlanta for 15 days. A horrible place that would give you nightmares. It was my own fault and it wasn't encessarily a drug offense as opposed to a violation of probation. Although having to be submitted to the tests to begin with was bullcrap.

Palax

Damn, dude, thats rough. 15 days in jail? I don't think I could survive. Even if I did, my parents would kill me as soon as I got out.

[QUOTE="oback"]

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

mikeg0788

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

legalizing drugs would get a lot more people hooked then there already are.

you are a fool if you think it would be good for anyone.

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="oback"]

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

oback

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

legalizing drugs would get a lot more people hooked then there already are.

you are a fool if you think it would be good for anyone.

Yes the fact that it is illegal sure does stop a lot of people from doing it. :roll:

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="oback"]

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

oback

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

legalizing drugs would get a lot more people hooked then there already are.

you are a fool if you think it would be good for anyone.

Thats faulty logic thats been thrown out the window countless times. You're obviously ignorant on the topic. Try actually learning something on the subject then come back. Reciting your DARE handbook doesn't count.

We need to step up on the war of drugs. Helloiseeu

Any reasoning for that, or is it just "DRUGZ ARE BAD, MMKAY?"

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="oback"]

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

oback

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

legalizing drugs would get a lot more people hooked then there already are.

you are a fool if you think it would be good for anyone.

Well would you disagree to at least marijuana being legal?

its a deterant. if people are intent on doing drugs they will.

same way other crimes are commited. People commit all sorts of crimes every day. The fact that they are illigal doesnt stop people from doing it like you said.

Laws are like a balancing act, its the balance between the right of the people and the right we have to live in a safe society.I would bet its a safe bet that most people want drugs to be illigal, as they have no positive influence on soceity.

if we want to talk about stopping drug use, thats a whole bigger issue. Stoping drug use is somthing that needs to be done on a community and family level, not a legislation level.

[QUOTE="oback"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="oback"]

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

Palax

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

legalizing drugs would get a lot more people hooked then there already are.

you are a fool if you think it would be good for anyone.

Well would you disagree to at least marijuana being legal?

to be honest with you pot is not a huge deal for me. I wouldnt never arrest someone for having a little bit of pot. (unless they are being a complete jackass)

but them having pot does give me probably cause to search them for more serious items, and i will happily do that.

We need to step up on the war of drugs. Helloiseeu

Won't... do... anything...

its a deterant. if people are intent on doing drugs they will.

same way other crimes are commited. People commit all sorts of crimes every day. The fact that they are illigal doesnt stop people from doing it like you said.

Laws are like a balancing act, its the balance between the right of the people and the right we have to live in a safe society.I would bet its a safe bet that most people want drugs to be illigal, as they have no positive influence on soceity.

if we want to talk about stopping drug use, thats a whole bigger issue. Stoping drug use is somthing that needs to be done on a community and family level, not a legislation level.

oback

The deterrent is extremely cost ineffective which is the point I orignally wanted to make. It's simply not worth it.

"The U.S. government estimates the cost of the War on Drugs by calculating the funds used in attempting to control the supply of illegal drugs, in paying government employees involved in waging the war on crack, and to satisfy rehabilitation costs. This total was estimated by the federal U.S. government's cost report on drug control to be roughly $12 billion in 2005. Additionally, in a separate report, the U.S. government reports that the cost of incarcerating drug law offenders was $30.1 billion—$9.1 billion for police protection, $4.5 billion for legal adjudication, and $11.0 billion for state and federal."

[QUOTE="Helloiseeu"]We need to step up on the war of drugs. EboyLOL

Won't... do... anything...

Yes it will. It will send more people to jail and make it more profitable to sell drugs illegally.

to be honest with you pot is not a huge deal for me. I wouldnt never arrest someone for having a little bit of pot. (unless they are being a complete jackass)

but them having pot does give me probably cause to search them for more serious items, and i will happily do that.

oback

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]

[QUOTE="Helloiseeu"]We need to step up on the war of drugs. Frattracide

Won't... do... anything...

Yes it will. It will send more people to jail and make it more profitable to sell drugs illegally.

[QUOTE="oback"]

to be honest with you pot is not a huge deal for me. I wouldnt never arrest someone for having a little bit of pot. (unless they are being a complete jackass)

but them having pot does give me probably cause to search them for more serious items, and i will happily do that.

EboyLOL

I have no experience so I can't comment, but I'm pretty sure after the 500th time of getting a call about some teenager dealing pot to students in a school, you get tired of having to screw with it.

Besides, you'd be suprised how apathetic you can become to either sidew after you wrestle greased up naked druggies with AIDs to the ground as they take chunks out of your arms.

Cops probably deal with enough crap. I doubt cops are going to spend all diddly day trying to bust pot dealers..

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"]

[QUOTE="Helloiseeu"]We need to step up on the war of drugs. EboyLOL

Won't... do... anything...

Yes it will. It will send more people to jail and make it more profitable to sell drugs illegally.

Not only will it not go away....the problem is growing.

"Drug use has increased in all categories since prohibition. Since 1937, the use of marijuana, once an activity seemingly limited to Mexican immigrants and jazz musicians,has become one undertaken by up to 50% of the youth of the United States.Between 1972 and 1988 the use of cocaine increased more than fivefold. The usage patterns of the current two most prevalent drugs, methamphetamine and ecstasy, have shown similar gains."

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="oback"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="oback"]

im a law enforcement major, and there are many reasons why cops will give you the second degree for smoking pot.

often times people will commit crimes while high, and a search for some simple pot also turns up interesting evidence and more serious items (guns for example).

you know the rules, I wouldnt be to upset when u choose not to play by them and get cought.

oback

I think most of us are more upset that such laws exist in the first place.

legalizing drugs would get a lot more people hooked then there already are.

you are a fool if you think it would be good for anyone.

Well would you disagree to at least marijuana being legal?

to be honest with you pot is not a huge deal for me. I wouldnt never arrest someone for having a little bit of pot. (unless they are being a complete jackass)

but them having pot does give me probably cause to search them for more serious items, and i will happily do that.

So then why should it be illegal? That's why I have come to the conclusion that maybe it's just illegal so that some unknown force out there can make ridiculous amounts of money off of people like me who desire this commodity.

Considering the logic of the methods used for categorization of "illegal" substances (Schedule), tobacco and alcohol should be made illegal.foxhound_fox

The same people who made pot illegal are probably the same ill-informed people who watched / produced "Reefer Madness"

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Considering the logic of the methods used for categorization of "illegal" substances (Schedule), tobacco and alcohol should be made illegal.Palax

The same people who made pot illegal are probably the same ill-informed people who watched / produced "Reefer Madness"

That movie is pretty funny.

Not to mention most crimes are commited under the influence of a mind altering substance.oback

Never will be...
Like the war on guns, religion, pornography, etc
Just one more dispute that mindless dweebs can get in line for

Besides, I need the drugs I am on

What war? What drugs? Did I miss something?!MissRiotmaker

You were probably high when it happened :|

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]What war? What drugs? Did I miss something?!Frattracide

You were probably high when it happened :|

Never did a drug a day in my life.

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]What war? What drugs? Did I miss something?!MissRiotmaker

You were probably high when it happened :|

Never did a drug a day in my life.

Well th- Oh I get it "A" drug. ;)