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#51 UrbanSpartan125

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.eo12601

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

? The officers and NCO's are french... And the french foreign legion hires foreign soldiers because it gives people from other countries a chance to obtain a French citizenship. I don't really care what you say. Those guys are some of the most intensely trained, physically fit SOB's out there.

:lol: whatever you say. you have the right to your own opinion

I know I do. And I think it is incredibly stupid that some people, and I won't point fingers, harp on the french for not being America's b-tch. I mean seriously. They are their own seperate country, and they can do what they want. Get that through your head, and stop trying to piss on them, mmkay? It's kind of annoying. It's one thing when people joke about things like that, and another when they actually mean it. And we wonder why half the world hates us.

hey its all in good fun

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i mean they get locked up in this cell once they quit, they have to stay there and watch while their comrades do work. Dont get me wrong they are physically well trained but combat wise. you can question
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I wouldn't really put their effectiveness as a unit much above any of our mercenary outfits (Blackwater, etc.). I agree, It would be silly to compare them to a military branch.

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[QUOTE="eo12601"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.Sajo7

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

So both you guys' credibility is based on "a show you watched".

never said that. What I meant was my pre-existing knowledge was supplemented by a TV show that I watched on them. And I HIGHLY doubt anyone here actually really knows what they're talking about when it comes to this subject, so do me a favor and don't be an A$$.

Oh dear, were having a bad day aren't we?

Possibly. Or perhaps, I just don't feel like having some guy on the interweb make an innuendo towards the fact that I have no idea what I'm talking about when just about everyone here is in the same boat as me. Hmmm.

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.towel_

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

So both you guys' credibility is based on "a show you watched".

and your credibility is...? I doubt you're active duty or are any more "in the know" than others here..

DId I say I was?

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

you're the one who's being pathetic....

I've told you thousands of times that you really need to shut up because you're humiliating yourself every single time you open your mouth....

The french foreign legion is for foreigners who wants to get the french citizenship.....

france have its own special forces (GIGN) and that unit surpasses america's by far....

The GIGN, is in no way surpassing Americas have you seen our special forces in combat and i also doubt youve seen the GIGN in combat because they havent been in a war in many many years

GIGN is operating in Africa as we speak......

ps: To your comment about France using foreigners to fight for them because they don't want to fight themselves:

They're not the ones who are using greencard-soldiers

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#56 UrbanSpartan125

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]i mean they get locked up in this cell once they quit, they have to stay there and watch while their comrades do work. Dont get me wrong they are physically well trained but combat wise. you can question
bt_the_great_78

I wouldn't really put their effectiveness as a unit much above any of our mercenary outfits (Blackwater, etc.). I agree, It would be silly to compare them to a military branch.

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[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="eo12601"]And I HIGHLY doubt anyone here actually really knows what they're talking about when it comes to this subjectsentencedogu

Why do you assume that?

because it's true,a lot of people do not know what they're talking about

I agree; most people don't, but some of us are in the military, and some are in or have been in special operations fields.

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#58 sentencedogu

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lol everybody is prasising their own nations spec ops
We need statics and reliable infos,proofs
Don't just say x is better

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Jesus...here comes another *insert random country here* pwns America fight.

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#60 UrbanSpartan125

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="jointed"]
[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.jointed

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

you're the one who's being pathetic....

I've told you thousands of times that you really need to shut up because you're humiliating yourself every single time you open your mouth....

The french foreign legion is for foreigners who wants to get the french citizenship.....

france have its own special forces (GIGN) and that unit surpasses america's by far....

The GIGN, is in no way surpassing Americas have you seen our special forces in combat and i also doubt youve seen the GIGN in combat because they havent been in a war in many many years

GIGN is operating in Africa as we speak......

ps: To your comment about France using foreigners to fight for them because they don't want to fight themselves:

They're not the ones who are using greencard-soldiers

oh and we are id like to know how and where you got that information from? and Operating in africa under what mission, you could say that our special forces are operating across the globe it doesnt neccesarily mean they are doing anything

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[QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

I suppose the 359,000 troops in the French military "can't fight for themselves". Don't make biased and poor accusations just because France wasn't a big supporter of the war in Iraq (for good reason, we never should have gone, but that is a different topic), and because you're some kind of war nut who loves all things military and doesn't truly have any idea what it's like.

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#62 UrbanSpartan125

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look, we all have our own opinions we cannot determine who is the best there is no list or fact sheet its basically all a matter of opinion.

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lol everybody is prasising their own nations spec ops
We need statics and reliable infos,proofs
Don't just say x is better
sentencedogu

It's logical to assume that most of us, if we have worked in the military and have experience with special operations, know more about our own nation's organizations than other nation's units. Any "our nation is better than your nation" arguments would be largely speculative.

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they arent very well trained in fact they have very little rifle training
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I suppose you know this from first hand experience? :roll:

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U.S navy seals

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#66 sentencedogu

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look, we all have our own opinions we cannot determine who is the best there is no list or fact sheet its basically all a matter of opinion.UrbanSpartan125

thats the only logical thing I have heard from you

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[QUOTE="sentencedogu"][QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="eo12601"]And I HIGHLY doubt anyone here actually really knows what they're talking about when it comes to this subjectbt_the_great_78

Why do you assume that?

because it's true,a lot of people do not know what they're talking about

I agree; most people don't, but some of us are in the military, and some are in or have been in special operations fields.

Even if you were in the military (which I do respect) and I in no way intended to demean that, the fact is that somebody who is a US Green Beret will likely be naturally biased towards that while lacking a sufficient understanding of the training etc that other countries' special forces go through, unless he or she is either extremely knowledgeable or an expert on the subject. Either way, those people are hard to come by.

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#68 UrbanSpartan125

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.towel_

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

I suppose the 359,000 troops in the French military "can't fight for themselves". Don't make biased and poor accusations just because France wasn't a big supporter of the war in Iraq (for good reason, we never should have gone, but that is a different topic), and because you're some kind of war nut who loves all things military and doesn't truly have any idea what it's like.

Your obviously making points that you have no idea about, yeah sure they have 359,000 troops, but what happened when Germany took control of France in WW2, they all surrendered. thats where all these jokes came from. and yes i do have an idea of what the military is like

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="jointed"]
[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

you're the one who's being pathetic....

I've told you thousands of times that you really need to shut up because you're humiliating yourself every single time you open your mouth....

The french foreign legion is for foreigners who wants to get the french citizenship.....

france have its own special forces (GIGN) and that unit surpasses america's by far....

The GIGN, is in no way surpassing Americas have you seen our special forces in combat and i also doubt youve seen the GIGN in combat because they havent been in a war in many many years

GIGN is operating in Africa as we speak......

ps: To your comment about France using foreigners to fight for them because they don't want to fight themselves:

They're not the ones who are using greencard-soldiers

oh and we are id like to know how and where you got that information from? and Operating in africa under what mission, you could say that our special forces are operating across the globe it doesnt neccesarily mean they are doing anything

Where I got what information from?

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#70 UrbanSpartan125

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]they arent very well trained in fact they have very little rifle training
towel_

I suppose you know this from first hand experience? :roll:

yes

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[QUOTE="jointed"]
[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

you're the one who's being pathetic....

I've told you thousands of times that you really need to shut up because you're humiliating yourself every single time you open your mouth....

The french foreign legion is for foreigners who wants to get the french citizenship.....

france have its own special forces (GIGN) and that unit surpasses america's by far....

The GIGN, is in no way surpassing Americas have you seen our special forces in combat and i also doubt youve seen the GIGN in combat because they havent been in a war in many many years

They're a special operations team. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know about their operations, they try to keep those sort of things on the quiet side..

You haven't seen Delta Force in combat regularly..doesn't mean they aren't out there. GIGN is one of the best teams out there. Lose the bias for a minute or two and start using logic.

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#72 UrbanSpartan125

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="jointed"]
[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.towel_

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

you're the one who's being pathetic....

I've told you thousands of times that you really need to shut up because you're humiliating yourself every single time you open your mouth....

The french foreign legion is for foreigners who wants to get the french citizenship.....

france have its own special forces (GIGN) and that unit surpasses america's by far....

The GIGN, is in no way surpassing Americas have you seen our special forces in combat and i also doubt youve seen the GIGN in combat because they havent been in a war in many many years

They're a special operations team. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know about their operations, they try to keep those sort of things on the quiet side..

You haven't seen Delta Force in combat regularly..doesn't mean they aren't out there. GIGN is one of the best teams out there. Lose the bias for a minute or two and start using logic.

read what i said above a couple of posts, its all a matter of opinion there is no way to determine whos the best. now i am going for now.

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[QUOTE="towel_"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.Sajo7

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

So both you guys' credibility is based on "a show you watched".

and your credibility is...? I doubt you're active duty or are any more "in the know" than others here..

DId I say I was?

You implied you had more concrete information than them.

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how and where you got that information from? UrbanSpartan125

Where is your source that says the GIGN aren't operating anywhere?

Operating in africa under what missionUrbanSpartan125

So he has to know what mission that there operating under in order to say that they are there? List me the operations the SEALs or Delta are doign right now? That's right, you can't say anything more than "Iraq" or another various country, because that is information that is kept quiet.

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[QUOTE="towel_"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

I suppose the 359,000 troops in the French military "can't fight for themselves". Don't make biased and poor accusations just because France wasn't a big supporter of the war in Iraq (for good reason, we never should have gone, but that is a different topic), and because you're some kind of war nut who loves all things military and doesn't truly have any idea what it's like.

Your obviously making points that you have no idea about, yeah sure they have 359,000 troops, but what happened when Germany took control of France in WW2, they all surrendered. thats where all these jokes came from. and yes i do have an idea of what the military is like

If it had been a 1v1 war between 1939 Germany and 1939 America, I would place my bet on Germany. The German army outstripped every other nation's by far during the early phases of world war two. The only reason the russians held on was because the Germans made quite a few blunders(mostly Hitler's fault), because they were extremely large and therefore time consuming to conquer, and they had a crapload of men. Had the Germans done, or in some cases, not done, a handful of things, the war could've gone the other way. And even after France was officially defeated (which did not occur w/o heavy fighting) the Free French Forces continued to fight on under General De Gaulle. Please don't make statements like that. They are offensive and rude. FYI, Had Germany been able to land troops on the British Isles, Britain would've been conquered just as easily as France. And had the battle of Britain and the bombing of British cities gone on for just a week or two more, the British would've likely been forced to surrender. Or at least, that is what I have learned on the subject. I suggest that if you wish to argue about something like this, you should do some of that learning yourself. Might do you some good.

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Even if you were in the military (which I do respect) and I in no way intended to demean that, the fact is that somebody who is a US Green Beret will likely be naturally biased towards that while lacking a sufficient understanding of the training etc that other countries' special forces go through, unless he or she is either extremely knowledgeable or an expert on the subject. Either way, those people are hard to come by.eo12601

It's true, most people in the Army are preferential towards their special operations units and the Navy towards their own, but much of those pissing contests are dying out. In the U.S. military the special operations community has been assimilated (much to the chagrin of the Marine Corps, who fought this decision for years to keep Force Recon separate). They are now USSOCOM (United States Special Operation Command). Since the units have been integrated, the special operations community has pooled their resources, schools, and finances and usually work together in combined task force units. So, we have a better awareness of the pros and cons of our sister branches.

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Your obviously making points that you have no idea about, yeah sure they have 359,000 troops, but what happened when Germany took control of France in WW2, they all surrendered. thats where all these jokes came from. and yes i do have an idea of what the military is likeUrbanSpartan125

Germany took almost all of Europe and was on the verge of taking Great Britain with Operation Barbarossa :| I don't see you making jokes about any of those other countries.

And no, unless you have served in the military, you don't have any idea what its like. Just because you watched some shows on the discovery channel, looked at a few websites, and read a few books does not mean you know what it's like. Sure, you can recite what happens on average everyday in boot camp, or the caliber of a rifle, but have you been there? Didn't think so.

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[QUOTE="towel_"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]they arent very well trained in fact they have very little rifle training
UrbanSpartan125

I suppose you know this from first hand experience? :roll:

yes

So you were a member of the French Foreign Legion? That's funny, you just said they were pathetic. You joined?

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If you're interested in reading some of the better books on our special operations community and military training... Imperial Grunts: On the Ground with the American Military, from Mongolia to the Philippines to Iraq and Beyond - Robert D. Kaplan Inside Delta Force: The Story of America's Elite Counterterrorist Unit - CSM Eric Haney Delta Force: The Army's Elite Counterterrorist Unit - Charlie A. Beckwith The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228 - Dick Couch The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident - Dick Couch Making the Corps - Thomas E. Ricks Fortune Favors the Brave - Bruce F. Meyer Force Recon Diary, 1969 - Maj. Bruce H. Norton First Force Recon Company: Sunrise at Midnight - Bill Peters

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="towel_"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.towel_

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

So both you guys' credibility is based on "a show you watched".

and your credibility is...? I doubt you're active duty or are any more "in the know" than others here..

DId I say I was?

You implied you had more concrete information than them.

.... No I didn't.

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[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"]If you're interested in reading some of the better books on our special operations community and military training... Imperial Grunts: On the Ground with the American Military, from Mongolia to the Philippines to Iraq and Beyond - Robert D. Kaplan Inside Delta Force: The Story of America's Elite Counterterrorist Unit - CSM Eric Haney Delta Force: The Army's Elite Counterterrorist Unit - Charlie A. Beckwith The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228 - Dick Couch The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident - Dick Couch Making the Corps - Thomas E. Ricks Fortune Favors the Brave - Bruce F. Meyer Force Recon Diary, 1969 - Maj. Bruce H. Norton First Force Recon Company: Sunrise at Midnight - Bill Peters

cool. ty. I'll have to check some of those out when I get a chance.

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Since Australia isn't an option i'm not sure to choes the US Navy Seals (cuz i'm american) or UK S.A.S because of Man vs. Wild!

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[QUOTE="towel_"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

I suppose the 359,000 troops in the French military "can't fight for themselves". Don't make biased and poor accusations just because France wasn't a big supporter of the war in Iraq (for good reason, we never should have gone, but that is a different topic), and because you're some kind of war nut who loves all things military and doesn't truly have any idea what it's like.

Your obviously making points that you have no idea about, yeah sure they have 359,000 troops, but what happened when Germany took control of France in WW2, they all surrendered. thats where all these jokes came from. and yes i do have an idea of what the military is like

You actually have no idea what their military is like. The French have been operating in almost as many places as America in the last decade. The French have operated in First Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Haiti, Chad, I vory Coast, and many, many more. Their military is one of the best in the world and is usually seen as tied for 4th best in the world along with UK. They have the only nuclear air craft carrier in the world outside of the United States. All though the FFL, are an elite unit in the French army, they are not a special forces unit. The GIGN are the special forces unit and are very good, however, i dont think they are up to par with SAS. If pay attention to any military contests, you would see that United States rarely wins at them. They are usually France or Germany or UK. Dont talk bullsh*t if you dont even know facts.

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[QUOTE="towel_"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="eo12601"]Spetznaz is pretty top notch. And the french foreign legion is pretty crazy as well. I watched a show on em.UrbanSpartan125

the French Foreign legion is a pathtic organization, they hire people to fight for the French because they cant fight for themselves and i watched a show on them too they are truely pathetic

I suppose the 359,000 troops in the French military "can't fight for themselves". Don't make biased and poor accusations just because France wasn't a big supporter of the war in Iraq (for good reason, we never should have gone, but that is a different topic), and because you're some kind of war nut who loves all things military and doesn't truly have any idea what it's like.

Your obviously making points that you have no idea about, yeah sure they have 359,000 troops, but what happened when Germany took control of France in WW2, they all surrendered. thats where all these jokes came from. and yes i do have an idea of what the military is like

You actually have no idea what their military is like. The French have been operating in almost as many places as America in the last decade. The French have operated in First Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Haiti, Chad, I vory Coast, and many, many more. Their military is one of the best in the world and is usually seen as tied for 4th best in the world along with UK. They have the only nuclear air craft carrier in the world outside of the United States. All though the FFL, are an elite unit in the French army, they are not a special forces unit. The GIGN are the special forces unit and are very good, however, i dont think they are up to par with SAS. If pay attention to any military contests, you would see that United States rarely wins at them. They are usually France or Germany or UK. Dont talk bullsh*t if you dont even know facts.

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[QUOTE="eo12601"][QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"]If you're interested in reading some of the better books on our special operations community and military training... Imperial Grunts: On the Ground with the American Military, from Mongolia to the Philippines to Iraq and Beyond - Robert D. Kaplan Inside Delta Force: The Story of America's Elite Counterterrorist Unit - CSM Eric Haney Delta Force: The Army's Elite Counterterrorist Unit - Charlie A. Beckwith The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228 - Dick Couch The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident - Dick Couch Making the Corps - Thomas E. Ricks Fortune Favors the Brave - Bruce F. Meyer Force Recon Diary, 1969 - Maj. Bruce H. Norton First Force Recon Company: Sunrise at Midnight - Bill Peters

cool. ty. I'll have to check some of those out when I get a chance.

As for as reading goes, the books on the Navy SEALS are the best. Most of us in the Marines (and the same is true in the Army) consider the SEALs a bunch of Hollywood glamorized, spoiled brats. But, I have to say after reading Couch's books, they make you want to switch over to the Navy for at least 4 years and do a deployment with the SEALs. They have some incredible schools and training, also some kickass instructors who put in the time to make it a great experience. I wouldn't want to be anything other than a Marine, but both Delta and the SEALS are tempting challenges.

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You actually have no idea what their military is like. The French have been operating in almost as many places as America in the last decade. The French have operated in First Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Haiti, Chad, I vory Coast, and many, many more. Their military is one of the best in the world and is usually seen as tied for 4th best in the world along with UK. They have the only nuclear air craft carrier in the world outside of the United States. All though the FFL, are an elite unit in the French army, they are not a special forces unit. The GIGN are the special forces unit and are very good, however, i dont think they are up to par with SAS. If pay attention to any military contests, you would see that United States rarely wins at them. They are usually France or Germany or UK. Dont talk bullsh*t if you dont even know facts.

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The Francophiles are in full force today.

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The SAS!

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I'd go with Israel's special forces, they must have so much combat experience, as the country is practically in a perpetual state of warfare.

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-Bump-

Lets get some more votes in (For the SAS mainly)

I did not put in the French or Russian special forces in because they are not good enough, the Spetsnaz (SP) is not as good as it once was and even there own commander states this.

As for the French, from I could see the training does not match the others on the list, either way there is no way they are as good as the SAS.

Another thing that has not been taken into account yet is the NATO restrictions and provisions, many special forces under NATO are similar have similar training methods and at many times, train with each other, however there are still forces that take the lead.

Overall, I am not surprised so far to see that the SEALS are nipping the toes of the S.A.S in the poles, since there are a load of bias yanks on this forum, either way the one thing that the SEALS have over other army's is the amount of money it is capable of spending, in fact the US spend more money on it's military each year than the British, Isreali, Nowegian or German army's do combined to my knowledge.

P.S. The order I have put the list is my order of preference.

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Delta Force or SAS.

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Delta Force or SAS.
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Delta Forces were left out because they are not used in main combat situations as the SEALS are and I was also trying to limit it to one a country.

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...since there are a load of bias yanks on this forum...
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Not to say you're biased as well, am I wrong?

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[QUOTE="Kreugh"][QUOTE="EvanSkanes"]There's a Norwegian special forces?EvanSkanes

Almost every country have special forces
Here is a list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_special_forces_units

LOL. We've got a special forces here in Canada?!

You've never heard of Joint Task Force-2? They're based off the British Special Air Service but their is little public information on them.

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Delta Forces were left out because they are not used in main combat situations b1gb0y

Since when?

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