There are no atheists

You just choose where to focus your worshipping nature on.

Given all the talk that goes around here about atheism I leave you with this quote for you to discuss from one of the greatest american minds from recent times David Foster Wallace. Too bad nobody knew about him while he was still alive...

"Because here's something else that's weird but true: in the day-to day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And the compelling reason for maybe choosing some sort of god or spiritual-type thing to worship -- be it JC or Allah, bet it YHWH or the Wiccan Mother Goddess, or the Four Noble Truths, or some inviolable set of ethical principles -- is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things, if they are where you tap real meaning in life, then you will never have enough, never feel you have enough. It's the truth. Worship your body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly. And when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally grieve you. On one level, we all know this stuff already. It's been codified as myths, proverbs, clichés, epigrams, parables; the skeleton of every great story. The whole trick is keeping the truth up front in daily consciousness."

― David Foster Wallace

Not sure if stupid.....

or trolling.

Doesn't this thread not make sense, because of the dictionary definition of the word "atheism"...?

Nah. Being atheist just means you don't believe in a god.

That makes no sense. They're not atheist, because they believe something else besides the concept of god?alexside1

t-t-t-troll!!

AHHH!

Doesn't this thread not make sense, because of the dictionary definition of the word "atheism"...?

IcyToasters

Atheism is the belief that there are no gods. It doesn't mean you still can't be religious/spiritual (see: Buddhism). Also, even for people who aren't religious at all, that doesn't mean that they worship sex and money instead. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and it sounds like the thoughts of an imbecile who is so narrow minded that he can't even comprehend the idea of a life without religion.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]That makes no sense. They're not atheist, because they believe something else besides the concept of god?kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="alexside1"]That makes no sense. They're not atheist, because they believe something else besides the concept of god?alexside1

Don't focus on dictionary definitions, focus on ideas.

kuraimen

When you say a word, it's expected that you use it according to its definition. Otherwise, you make no sense.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Don't focus on dictionary definitions, focus on ideas.

Necrifer

When you say a word, it's expected that you use the proper definition. Otherwise, you make no sense.

Being an atheist doesnt mean you dont worship anything (with the meaning of the word that guy in the OP uses the word "worship").

So yes atheists do exist and no wanna-be philosopher that likes to play semantics and abuse definitions can prove otherwise.

Eh a person with the capacity to analyze and think beyond a mere definition will easily make sense of it. kuraimen

Another great, non controversial kuraimen thread.

Abandonthread.gif and what not because Imt o lazy to devote more time to this.

[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Don't focus on dictionary definitions, focus on ideas.

kuraimen

When you say a word, it's expected that you use the proper definition. Otherwise, you make no sense.

Your stance is a paraphrase of "if we ignore what things/ideas actually are then we can say what we want about them". Well no ****...

I just knew this thread would warrant this::roll: and I was right.

Can it be possible that people here are so incapable of reasoning to this level? Well maybe it is, this is GS after all. Everyone takes everything literally, no wonder people complain about education these days. I expect people here can't even begin to comprehend basic figures of speech like metaphors and similes since words don't carry their literal meanings... sighkuraimen

Can it be possible that people here are so incapable of reasoning to this level? Well maybe it is, this is GS after all. Everyone takes everything literally, no wonder people complain about education these days. I expect people here can't even begin to comprehend basic figures of speech like metaphors and similes since words don't carry their literal meanings... sighkuraimen

Can it be possible that people here are so incapable of reasoning to this level? Well maybe it is, this is GS after all. Everyone takes everything literally, no wonder people complain about education these days. I expect people here can't even begin to comprehend basic figures of speech like metaphors and similes since words don't carry their literal meanings... sighkuraimen

Now go play with your toy cars.

Eh a person with the capacity to analyze and think beyond a mere definition will easily make sense of it.

kuraimen

When a word is being used incorrectly (not by its definition), the phrase it's used in will make no sense. That's just the way it is.

Nevermind GS, David Foster Wallace is dumb and GS users are very very intelligent people. Ok I get it. Let's move on...

kuraimen

Hehe...

he called me intelligent.

Can it be possible that people here are so incapable of reasoning to this level? Well maybe it is, this is GS after all. Everyone takes everything literally, no wonder people complain about education these days. I expect people here can't even begin to comprehend basic figures of speech like metaphors and similes since words don't carry their literal meanings... sighkuraimen

Nevermind GS, David Foster Wallace is dumb and GS users are very very intelligent people. Ok I get it. Let's move on...kuraimen

I'd be ashamed if I were him, that people take me out of context to support insane ideas and using me as a credential for their own opinions.

Now, off you go.

Can it be possible that people here are so incapable of reasoning to this level? Well maybe it is, this is GS after all. Everyone takes everything literally, no wonder people complain about education these days. I expect people here can't even begin to comprehend basic figures of speech like metaphors and similes since words don't carry their literal meanings... sighkuraimen

LOL

Dammit, having people on ignore messes the new posts button when they post. =(

I doubt David Foster Wallace concluded from what he said that atheists dont actually exist.

I'd be ashamed if I were him, that people take me out of context to support insane ideas and using me as a credential for their own opinions.

Now, off you go.

Teenaged

Let's now discuss what David Foster Wallace actually meant.

I think he meant we all put faith in things. (or something)

Let's see... you deserve this:

Dammit, having people on ignore messes the new posts button when they post. =(

Teenaged

ooo have I been ignored??

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Eh a person with the capacity to analyze and think beyond a mere definition will easily make sense of it.

Necrifer

When a word is being used incorrectly (not by its definition), the phrase it's used in will make no sense. That's just the way it is.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I doubt David Foster Wallace concluded from what he said that atheists dont actually exist.

I'd be ashamed if I were him, that people take me out of context to support insane ideas and using me as a credential for their own opinions.

Now, off you go.

Necrifer

Let's now discuss what David Foster Wallace actually meant.

I think he meant we all put faith in things. (or something)

But that's just a quick conclusion. Maybe there's more or something entirely different to it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Dammit, having people on ignore messes the new posts button when they post. =(

Optical_Order

ooo have I been ignored??

If I had you on ignore I wouldnt be able to see your post and reply to you. :P

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Eh a person with the capacity to analyze and think beyond a mere definition will easily make sense of it.

Necrifer

When a word is being used incorrectly (not by its definition), the phrase it's used in will make no sense. That's just the way it is.

Can it be possible that people here are so incapable of reasoning to this level? Well maybe it is, this is GS after all. Everyone takes everything literally, no wonder people complain about education these days. I expect people here can't even begin to comprehend basic figures of speech like metaphors and similes since words don't carry their literal meanings... sighkuraimen