There is no God.

It's really hilarious.

Going on the internet to create a troll account just to insult theists, show off immaturity like a trophy, generalize like crazy, and basically make a joke out of yourself.

The end result of which will likely be an IP ban for you, then everyone will probably forget you were even here in a couple days.

I really hope you feel as though you've spent your time wisely today. lulz

[QUOTE="jpzer12"][QUOTE="Jenova_Flare"]

I don't think i'm any more or less clever than you!! I'd say im more mature, though. If you won't write an essay on the subject then it's more than likely that you cannot.

Prove me wrong...

ElZilcho90

I have plenty of essays on the subject handy but they are all in French.

Even so, the two men that wrote the books mentionnned earlier would be more likely to dissuade you of the existence of god.

My beef is not that you believe in god, my beef is that you are intellectually immature enough to actually believe in such a thing.

Disprove it. Enlighten us. Show us the error of our ways by personally disproving the existance of God, not linking to some essays someone else wrote, or citing books that you didn't write.

It's quite obvious from your posts that you're just like all the other Athiest trolls who place themselves on an intellectual pedestal because they "threw off the chains of Thiest oppression", and spend their days looking down upon those who believe in God.

In short, I give as much credence to your screams for attention as I do to those 9-year-olds who scream pre-pubescent insults into the microphone while playing Halo online.

I'm not going to write an essay to please you :| 

 just read the books. They fit the subject perfectly I don't think I need to write one myself.

It's really hilarious.

Going on the internet to create a troll account just to insult theists, show off immaturity like a trophy, generalize like crazy, and generally making a joke out of yourself.

The end result of which will likely be an IP ban for you, then everyone will likely forget you were even here in a couple days.

I really hope you feel as though you've spent your time wisely today. lulz

dhyce

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="jpzer12"][QUOTE="Jenova_Flare"]

I don't think i'm any more or less clever than you!! I'd say im more mature, though. If you won't write an essay on the subject then it's more than likely that you cannot.

Prove me wrong...

jpzer12

I have plenty of essays on the subject handy but they are all in French.

Even so, the two men that wrote the books mentionnned earlier would be more likely to dissuade you of the existence of god.

My beef is not that you believe in god, my beef is that you are intellectually immature enough to actually believe in such a thing.

Disprove it. Enlighten us. Show us the error of our ways by personally disproving the existance of God, not linking to some essays someone else wrote, or citing books that you didn't write.

It's quite obvious from your posts that you're just like all the other Athiest trolls who place themselves on an intellectual pedestal because they "threw off the chains of Thiest oppression", and spend their days looking down upon those who believe in God.

In short, I give as much credence to your screams for attention as I do to those 9-year-olds who scream pre-pubescent insults into the microphone while playing Halo online.

I'm not going to write an essay to please you :| 

 just read the books. They fit the subject perfectly I don't think I need to write one myself.

Have you read the books?

[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]You sound about as mature as the 9 year old kids on Halo. Please, go be a dumbass somwhere else...jpzer12

Not our fault your conservative parents stop you from enjoying high quality media. 

I'm not going to write an essay to please you :|

just read the books. They fit the subject perfectly I don't think I need to write one myself.

jpzer12

Don't do it to please me. Do it to save me from my doomed existance of moronic belief in a non-existant diety, as you would put it. Do it as a public service. Elnighten me, so I too can be as wise, brilliant, and awe-inspiring as you are.

Or continue on trolling, it doesn't matter the slightest to me either way.

This is exactly the problem with this debate...

Why do idiots feel the need to make arguments without backing them?

btw, I don't believe in God myself, but the thread creator is just a dumbass 

How about you just keep your opinions to yourself.

If people are religious enough to beleive in God I doubt some random gimp saying "zomg you're an idiot he doesn't exist" is gunna change their opinion. 

How many times must I tell you that I did not make this thread to convince anyone.
I only wanted to denounce intellectual immaturity through exposition of weak thought processes.
Even if you you did read the books after my post, you would still be intellectually immature...

jpzer12

So you confess to being nothing more than a troll? Here only to cause anger among people who read in an attempt to gain attention for yourself? Worthy of only a ban from this site, so as to prevent your pathetic attempts to stir up controversy?

Trust me, son. You're not the first militant Athiest to show up here, rambling about how "thiests are teh st00pids!!!!lawl!" and how "intellectually immature" we are to believe in God. And you sure as hell aren't going to be the last. 

How many times must I tell you that I did not make this thread to convince anyone.

 

I only wanted to denounce intellectual immaturity through exposition of weak thought processes.

 

Even if you you did read the books after my post, you would still be intellectually immature... 

jpzer12

You heard it here folks; random troll on the internet who thinks he's a genius #768,290,388 = the voice of intellectual maturity.

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="jpzer12"]I'm not going to write an essay to please you :|

just read the books. They fit the subject perfectly I don't think I need to write one myself.

jpzer12

Don't do it to please me. Do it to save me from my doomed existance of moronic belief in a non-existant diety, as you would put it. Do it as a public service. Elnighten me, so I too can be as wise, brilliant, and awe-inspiring as you are.

Or continue on trolling, it doesn't matter the slightest to me either way.

How hard is it to get your ass to the library and buy one of those books?

Stop harassing me into writing a book just for you. 

Buy one of those books? lol, yeah like i would want to waste my money, if you made this thread you have to provide evidence, even if you have to write a large text on why god does exist.

1) The GOD delusion - Richard Dawkins

2) The end of Faith - Sam Harris

3) Letter to a Christian nation - Sam Harris

jpzer12

Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist, it's natural to assume that he will be an Atheist. Science and Religion clash quite dramatically. And quoting two Sam Harris books suggests you've not really read up on the issue much past these two authors. I had the impression from Sam Harris that while he is intolerant of religion to a degree, it's mainly the naivity it subjects some people to, like the idea Jesus will have his second coming in the next 50 years. He's against creationism being mandatory in schools, not against people having faith in general. You'd do well to learn the idea of people being entitled to their own opinions.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

How about you just keep your opinions to yourself.

If people are religious enough to beleive in God I doubt some random gimp saying "zomg you're an idiot he doesn't exist" is gunna change their opinion.

jpzer12

I don't care about their opinion...

how dense are you guys. 

you dont care?

If you believe in God, you disgust me. This just proves how intellectualy immature you are.

People that believe in god should be reformed into intellectually responsible persons.

OMG theists, just end your kind. We would be better off. 

jpzer12

sounds like you care a whole lot

God is a delusion.

 

If you believe in God, you disgust me. This just proves how intellectualy immature you are.

 

People that believe in god should be reformed into intellectually responsible persons.

 

This is just obvious to anyone with half a brain.

 

OMG theists, just end your kind. We would be better off.

jpzer12

Really now? Get proof or shut the hell up, your post contributes nothing.

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

How many times must I tell you that I did not make this thread to convince anyone.

 

I only wanted to denounce intellectual immaturity through exposition of weak thought processes.

 

Even if you you did read the books after my post, you would still be intellectually immature...

dhyce

You heard it here folks; random troll on the internet who thinks he's a genius #768,290,388 = the voice of intellectual maturity.

That might be a valid point except your condescending tone betrays you. 

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

How many times must I tell you that I did not make this thread to convince anyone.

 

I only wanted to denounce intellectual immaturity through exposition of weak thought processes.

 

Even if you you did read the books after my post, you would still be intellectually immature... 

dhyce

You heard it here folks; random troll on the internet who thinks he's a genius #768,290,388 = the voice of intellectual maturity.

That might be a valid point except your condescending tone betrays you.

jpzer12

Dhyce? Condescending? Never!

[QUOTE="-Murdock-"][QUOTE="jpzer12"]

God is a delusion.

 

If you believe in God, you disgust me. This just proves how intellectualy immature you are.

 

People that believe in god should be reformed into intellectually responsible persons.

 

This is just obvious to anyone with half a brain.

 

OMG theists, just end your kind. We would be better off.

jpzer12

Intollerence in any form is disgusting. Welcome to hypocricy. I believe this would be considered trolling, anyone else?

Who are you to say Intolerence is disgusting?

I am a nihilist and do not believe intolerence should be avoided.

So now you want me to respect your beliefs? Do you see the flaws in your arguments from the first post?  Wow, the irony here is simply delightful!

[QUOTE="jpzer12"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

How about you just keep your opinions to yourself.

If people are religious enough to beleive in God I doubt some random gimp saying "zomg you're an idiot he doesn't exist" is gunna change their opinion.

MarioFanatic

I don't care about their opinion...

how dense are you guys.

you dont care?

If you believe in God, you disgust me. This just proves how intellectualy immature you are.

People that believe in god should be reformed into intellectually responsible persons.

OMG theists, just end your kind. We would be better off.

jpzer12

sounds like you care a whole lot

I don't care about the gamespot posters at the moment of typing, I'm advocating national reform.

I won't start national reform on a gaming forum... 

That might be a valid point except your condescending tone betrays you. 

jpzer12

I don't care about the gamespot posters at the moment of typing, I'm advocating national reform.

 

I won't start national reform on a gaming forum...

jpzer12

Then what in the Hell are you doing in front of your computer?

Looks like we've got the reincarnation of Martin Luther with us today. :| 

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

I don't care about the gamespot posters at the moment of typing, I'm advocating national reform.

 

I won't start national reform on a gaming forum...

ElZilcho90

Then what in the Hell are you doing in front of your computer?

Looks like we've got the reincarnation of Martin Luther with us today. :|

I'm eating a hot-dog, gimme a break... 

People will always believe in religion... I don't think they'll change their ways because of you. Sorry kid.

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="jpzer12"]

I don't care about the gamespot posters at the moment of typing, I'm advocating national reform.

 

I won't start national reform on a gaming forum...

jpzer12

Then what in the Hell are you doing in front of your computer?

Looks like we've got the reincarnation of Martin Luther with us today. :|

I'm eating a hot-dog, gimme a break...

Yup. Troll with nothing better to do because Dora the Explorer just finished on TV.

Only one way to get rid of a troll: Don't give him any attention.

*officially leaves the thread* 

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

I don't care about the gamespot posters at the moment of typing, I'm advocating national reform.

 

I won't start national reform on a gaming forum...

ElZilcho90

Then what in the Hell are you doing in front of your computer?

Looks like we've got the reincarnation of Martin Luther with us today. :| 

Martin Luther was a monk who believed faith was the only way to acheive salvation. Although he was against the papacy in the end, he was very much a religious man. I think jpzer12 is the exact opposite of him.

God is a delusion.

 

If you believe in God, you disgust me. This just proves how intellectualy immature you are.

 

People that believe in god should be reformed into intellectually responsible persons.

 

This is just obvious to anyone with half a brain.

 

OMG theists, just end your kind. We would be better off. 

jpzer12

That might be a valid point except your condescending tone betrays you. jpzer12

I'm sorry if I don't hand out the utmost respect to those who waste their time trolling forums whilst claiming to be the voice of intellectual maturity.

I hate to break it to you, but I've seen countless Militant Atheists such as yourself. You're not 1 in a million. Your perspective is quite common and your ego doubly so.

I apologize if you disregard my words on the grounds that they are condescending, but it's the truth.

Not that I claim to be a genius or anything either, I actually believe I'm of a fairly average intelligence. You just need to hop off your throne and see things for how they really are. You aren't special, you aren't a great genius, you should stop generalizing people, and you should show more respect to others.

Again, sorry if I'm being mean. But really, this is hardly mature or intellectual. :/

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="jpzer12"]

I don't care about the gamespot posters at the moment of typing, I'm advocating national reform.

 

I won't start national reform on a gaming forum...

marojado

Then what in the Hell are you doing in front of your computer?

Looks like we've got the reincarnation of Martin Luther with us today. :|

Martin Luther was a monk who believed faith was the only way to acheive salvation. Although he was against the papacy in the end, he was very much a religious man. I think jpzer12 is the exact opposite of him.

I cited Martin Luther as a religious reformer. This guy claims he wants to rid the world of Religion, which is quite the religious reform. Because there aren't any famous Athiestic reformers (Hmm... maybe that means something), I chose to refer to Luther for the above reason.

God is a delusion.

 

If you believe in God, you disgust me. This just proves how intellectualy immature you are.

 

People that believe in god should be reformed into intellectually responsible persons.

 

This is just obvious to anyone with half a brain.

 

OMG theists, just end your kind. We would be better off. 

jpzer12

explain your reasons.

You know, OP, you're not going to get anywhere when insulting people like that. I mean, if you were so superior, personal insults are the last thing you'd want to say when arguing your "point".

[QUOTE="HipHopFan232"][QUOTE="jpzer12"][QUOTE="HipHopFan232"]

Give me a break. This guy is a complete joke.

I'm Agnostic (yes, there's a difference between that an Atheist) but seriously, this guy comes and totally bashes everybody that has a religion, says they're wrong, and basically goes to tell them to shove it up their ass.

Get a life.

jpzer12

You can be Atheist AND Agnostic, genious.

I am a Gnostic Atheist, and you are an Agnostic Atheist.

So spare me your difference rant. At least get the difference right.

Well, excuse me, princess, for not being an expert on religion. You're probably wrong, anyways.

And learn how to spell "genius" correctly. You hardly make yourself look like a legit argument when you can't spell a simple word.

I'm french, so please tolerate some minor mistakes.

[QUOTE="marojado"]

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

1) The GOD delusion - Richard Dawkins

2) The end of Faith - Sam Harris

3) Letter to a Christian nation - Sam Harris

jpzer12

Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist, it's natural to assume that he will be an Atheist. Science and Religion clash quite dramatically. And quoting two Sam Harris books suggests you've not really read up on the issue much past these two authors. I had the impression from Sam Harris that while he is intolerant of religion to a degree, it's mainly the naivity it subjects some people to, like the idea Jesus will have his second coming in the next 50 years. He's against creationism being mandatory in schools, not against people having faith in general. You'd do well to learn the idea of people being entitled to their own opinions.

I know that people are entitled to their opinions and I respect that. Doesn't stop me from thinking they are FOOLS.

Then keep it to yourself, no one cares if you think they are fools.

I cited Martin Luther as a religious reformer. This guy claims he wants to rid the world of Religion, which is quite the religious reform. Because there aren't any famous Athiestic reformers (Hmm... maybe that means something), I chose to refer to Luther for the above reason.

ElZilcho90

Fair point. i wasn't being narky with you, i just think our atheist topic creator is at the other end of the spectrum =P

I know that people are entitled to their opinions and I respect that. Doesn't stop me from thinking they are fools.

jpzer12

I'm quite flattered, i didn't get a spiteful post back.

[QUOTE="jpzer12"][QUOTE="marojado"]

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

1) The GOD delusion - Richard Dawkins

2) The end of Faith - Sam Harris

3) Letter to a Christian nation - Sam Harris

skulper34

Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist, it's natural to assume that he will be an Atheist. Science and Religion clash quite dramatically. And quoting two Sam Harris books suggests you've not really read up on the issue much past these two authors. I had the impression from Sam Harris that while he is intolerant of religion to a degree, it's mainly the naivity it subjects some people to, like the idea Jesus will have his second coming in the next 50 years. He's against creationism being mandatory in schools, not against people having faith in general. You'd do well to learn the idea of people being entitled to their own opinions.

I know that people are entitled to their opinions and I respect that. Doesn't stop me from thinking they are FOOLS.

Then keep it to yourself, no one cares if you think they are fools.

Fools don't like to be called fools and stop listening, I AM AWARE. 

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"]

I cited Martin Luther as a religious reformer. This guy claims he wants to rid the world of Religion, which is quite the religious reform. Because there aren't any famous Athiestic reformers (Hmm... maybe that means something), I chose to refer to Luther for the above reason.

marojado

Fair point. i wasn't being narky with you, i just think our atheist topic creator is at the other end of the spectrum =P

I understand perfectly. Martin Luther's comparison to a militant athiest is a bit of a stretch, as Luther was a deeply religious man. But, like I said before, it's hard to compare the OP to any famous reformer as no such athiestic ones exist. 

[QUOTE="jpzer12"]

I know that people are entitled to their opinions and I respect that. Doesn't stop me from thinking they are fools.

marojado

I'm quite flattered, i didn't get a spiteful post back.

You made a point that was on topic and was insightful, why would I spite someone of your brilliance? 

Wow this guy is awesome at contradicting himself.

You actually people give a **** about your opinion? :lol:  

Did I not say earlier to spare me your opinions? jpzer12

Because what I said was clearly a matter of my opinion and not the simple truth of the matter.

lol, alrighty then, walk down your yellow brick road convincing yourself that you're this unique super genius with the true voice of intellectual reason.

I know that people are entitled to their opinions and I respect that. Doesn't stop me from thinking they are fools.

jpzer12