they say this is the possible missing link between humans and apes....

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]" So you believe everything that happens is just chance? random?FelipeInside

That would be true if the world was perfect. It's really shtty in reality, and anyone who did a minute amount of research on biology can easily see that.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]are you meaning the theory of homo erectus killing off the neanderthals? all the human origins theories are sadly just that,they are all theories.

im not saying the theories are wrong,im just one person and i have no right so say they are wrong but to this day there is no proof of where our species today actually came from or which species we evolved from hence why they are searching for this missing link.

There is lots and lots of proof, here. I think you realise this but you choose to ignore it.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Yes. It sounds more plausible than the alternative.Heisenderp

That would be true if the world was perfect. It's really shtty in reality, and anyone who did a minute amount of research on biology can easily see that.

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] But everything is SO CONTROLLED, so perfectly symmetrical, functions so well and there are signs everywhere that there is a design/system in place to move things forward and recycle. IMO this cannot just be a random occurrence. This was clearly designed by something.ShadowsDemon

That would be true if the world was perfect. It's really shtty in reality, and anyone who did a minute amount of research on biology can easily see that.

Lolnope, a lot of biochemical processes on Earth are horribly inefficient and produce extremely toxic byproducts (photosynthesis? You know, the reason we are alive?). Must be designed by a dumbass, if all of this was designed.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

That would be true if the world was perfect. It's really shtty in reality, and anyone who did a minute amount of research on biology can easily see that.

Lolnope, a lot of biochemical processes on Earth are horribly inefficient and produce extremely toxic byproducts (photosynthesis? You know, the reason we are alive?). Must be designed by a dumbass, if all of this was designed.

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"].

tenaka2

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Because of how humans screwed up the universe and society. He means about the complexity and depth of the universe in terms of nature, physics and creation.ShadowsDemon

Lolnope, a lot of biochemical processes on Earth are horribly inefficient and produce extremely toxic byproducts (photosynthesis? You know, the reason we are alive?). Must be designed by a dumbass, if all of this was designed.

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

Yeah, you got me, I do refuse to look at anything you have to say because it goes against every single reputable scientific consensus, and you can't seem to grasp even the stupidest, most basic notions of biology.

"humans have exposed these particles and chemicals to others and made them toxic" That sounds like something a 3-year-old intellectually deficient child who never went to school would say. I think the word you're looking for is "chemical reaction", but I'm not sure. In either case, photosynthesis has been going on for much longer than our existence, so how the fck is that even possible?

By the way, please tell us how hydrogen peroxide, which almost instantly kills any living cells exposed to it, and which every cell needs to quickly eliminate to survive, can somehow be magically useful. While you're at it, tell us how Rubisco is not the biggest piece of sht enzyme ever created that it needs to be mass-produced by the plant to be able to convert a half-decent amount of CO2.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

Lolnope, a lot of biochemical processes on Earth are horribly inefficient and produce extremely toxic byproducts (photosynthesis? You know, the reason we are alive?). Must be designed by a dumbass, if all of this was designed.

Heisenderp

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

Yeah, you got me, I do refuse to look at anything you have to say because it goes against every single reputable scientific consensus, and you can't seem to grasp even the stupidest, most basic notions of biology.

"humans have exposed these particles and chemicals to others and made them toxic" That sounds like something a 3-year-old intellectually deficient child who never went to school would say. I think the word you're looking for is "chemical reaction", but I'm not sure. In either case, photosynthesis has been going on for much longer than our existence, so how the fck is that even possible?

By the way, please tell us how hydrogen peroxide, which almost instantly kills any living cells exposed to it, and which every cell needs to quickly eliminate to survive, can somehow be magically useful.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

Lolnope, a lot of biochemical processes on Earth are horribly inefficient and produce extremely toxic byproducts (photosynthesis? You know, the reason we are alive?). Must be designed by a dumbass, if all of this was designed.

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You refuse to look at anything I say. Just because humans have exposed these particles and chemicals to others and made them toxic. Even if that's not the case, just because they exist for no real good reason it doesn't mean that they're automatically destructive, now does it? :| ShadowsDemon

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

So in addition to completely ignoring what I said about the inefficiency of photosynthesis (becase you're obviously too deluded to see anything that doesn't suck Yahweh's dick), you pull out the most blatant straw man I ever saw. I've literally never seen anyone as willfully stupid as this.

By the way, the reason why your argument is a straw man is that I don't give a sht about creating better things than God, nor did I ever claim that (I gave ONE example ffs, please stop pretending that everyone is as arrogant as you), I just used it as a example on how pathetic his design is. I thought you were probably too deficient to realize that, so I'm spelling it out for you.

I don't think he ever said he could.

What if he says he can writes a book about it and gets people to think he has 2000 years later?

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]" So you believe everything that happens is just chance? random?FelipeInside

Don't know much about Quantum Mechanics do you?

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

and who designed it all?

tenaka2

Who knows, if someone did design it they went to great lenghts indeed to make it appear completely random.

Luckily we have genius people like you who have clearly seen through this ruse.

Don't even bother engaging with Gayfox. He/She/It is more stubborn than a thorn up your Ass!

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You refuse to look at anything I say. Just because humans have exposed these particles and chemicals to others and made them toxic. Even if that's not the case, just because they exist for no real good reason it doesn't mean that they're automatically destructive, now does it? :| ShadowsDemon

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Alright then, you think humans can design better solar panels, planets, space, particles, chemicals, humans, animals, etc than God? Alright then, you try and do it. See how that works out for ya. :)ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Alright then, you think humans can design better solar panels, planets, space, particles, chemicals, humans, animals, etc than God? Alright then, you try and do it. See how that works out for ya. :)ShadowsDemon

The blind watchmaker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You refuse to look at anything I say. Just because humans have exposed these particles and chemicals to others and made them toxic. Even if that's not the case, just because they exist for no real good reason it doesn't mean that they're automatically destructive, now does it? :| ShadowsDemon

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You refuse to look at anything I say. Just because humans have exposed these particles and chemicals to others and made them toxic. Even if that's not the case, just because they exist for no real good reason it doesn't mean that they're automatically destructive, now does it? :| ShadowsDemon

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Yes. It sounds more plausible than the alternative.chaoscougar1

Don't know much about Quantum Mechanics do you?

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I thought Quantum Mechanics was a theory?Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I thought Quantum Mechanics was a theory?FelipeInside

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics

Quantum mechanics (QM - also known as quantum physics, or quantum theory) is a branch of physics dealing with physical phenomena where the action is on the order of the Planck constant. Quantum mechanics departs from ****cal mechanics primarily at the atomic and subatomic scales, the so-called "quantum realm". QM provides a mathematical description of much of the dual particle-like and wave-like ("wavicle") behavior and interactions of energy and matter.

In advanced topics of quantum mechanics, some of these behaviors are macroscopic and only emerge at extreme (i.e. very low or very high) energies or temperatures. The name "quantum mechanics" derives from the observation that some physical quantities can change only in discrete amounts (Latin quanta), and not in a "continuous" (cf.analog) way. For example, the angular momentum of an electron bound to an atom or molecule is quantized.[1] In the context of quantum mechanics, the wave–particle duality of energy and matter and the uncertainty principle provide a unified view of the behavior of photons, electrons, and other atomic-scale objects.

The earliest versions of quantum mechanics were formulated in the first decade of the 20th century. At around the same time, the atomic theory and the corpuscular theory of light (as updated by Einstein) first came to be widely accepted as scientific fact; these latter theories can be viewed as quantum theories of matter and electromagnetic radiation, respectively. Early quantum theory was significantly reformulated in the mid-1920s by Werner Heisenberg, Max Born, Wolfgang Pauli and their collaborators, and the Copenhagen interpretation of Niels Bohr became widely accepted. By 1930, quantum mechanics had been further unified and formalized by the work of Paul Dirac and John von Neumann, with a greater emphasis placed on measurement in quantum mechanics, the statistical nature of our knowledge of reality, and philosophical speculation about the role of the observer. Quantum mechanics has since branched out into almost every aspect of 20th century physics and other disciplines, such as quantum chemistry, quantum electronics, quantum optics, and quantum information science. Much 19th century physics has been re-evaluated as the "****cal limit" of quantum mechanics, and its more advanced developments in terms of quantum field theory, string theory, and speculative quantum gravity theories.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] But everything is SO CONTROLLED, so perfectly symmetrical, functions so well and there are signs everywhere that there is a design/system in place to move things forward and recycle. IMO this cannot just be a random occurrence. This was clearly designed by something.FelipeInside

Don't know much about Quantum Mechanics do you?

^^ Thank you. I don't get why "chaoscougar1" quoted me and said that I didn't know much about Quantum mechanics.FelipeInside

IMO this cannot just be a random occurrence. This was clearly designed by something.FelipeInside

ALSO
See my description of how our solar system started

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]^^ Thank you. I don't get why "chaoscougar1" quoted me and said that I didn't know much about Quantum mechanics.chaoscougar1

IMO this cannot just be a random occurrence. This was clearly designed by something.FelipeInside

ALSO
See my description of how our solar system started

So ur saying Quantum Mechanics puts the order into the chaos?

So ur saying Quantum Mechanics puts the order into the chaos?

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

So ur saying Quantum Mechanics puts the order into the chaos?

chaoscougar1

I thought so. So there is chaos, and something puts order into it. That to me is a system designed to control the chaos, created by something/someone.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

So ur saying Quantum Mechanics puts the order into the chaos?

FelipeInside

I thought so. So there is chaos, and something puts order into it. That to me is a system designed to control the chaos, created by something/someone.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

So ur saying Quantum Mechanics puts the order into the chaos?

FelipeInside

I thought so. So there is chaos, and something puts order into it. That to me is a system designed to control the chaos, created by something/someone.

You don't understand QM
You don't understand Relativity
You don't understand how the universe was created

That is why you choose God, it is easier to understand "Someone else did it" than using research and reason

Felipe, for you if you got the time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-jQUHUF1MU&list=FLgzVhulD9QD3oLix6ROkCYw&index=2&feature=plpp_video. This will clear up many questions I think.

The ape thing definitely makes more sense than the 'God' thing. i must say.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Not really
It just explains it

Funky_Llama

I thought so. So there is chaos, and something puts order into it. That to me is a system designed to control the chaos, created by something/someone.

You don't understand QM
You don't understand Relativity
You don't understand how the universe was created

That is why you choose God, it is easier to understand "Someone else did it" than using research and reason

Right, so cause I don't study science and stuff I believe in God? Sorry but that's b*****.

I believe in God cause I think something so huge, so complex, with so many systems and things that we humans cannot begin to comprehend was created/designed by something far superior to us.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Not really
It just explains it

Funky_Llama

I thought so. So there is chaos, and something puts order into it. That to me is a system designed to control the chaos, created by something/someone.

Why? Hate is a strong word?

Felipe, for you if you got the time

wis3boi

Thanks wis, I will when I get the chance, it's pretty long.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Felipe, for you if you got the time

FelipeInside

Thanks wis, I will when I get the chance, it's pretty long.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Heisenderp"]

Goddamn, you really have no clue on what you're talking about. Photosynthesis is dumbass-grade biology, and you seem to not have the slighest idea on how it works for even suggesting that it's not one of the worst biochemical processes ever discovered. Take a look at the energy conversion rate and tell me that it doesn't suck dick:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiencyLike I said, your God must have Down syndrome because even we humans can make way better solar panels than the almighty God's design.

chaoscougar1

i want to know the meaning of life,bbwwoman

i want to know how the fck they built the pyramidsbbwwoman

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="bbwwoman"]i want to know the meaning of life,bbwwoman

thanks for the link.

Evolution really just gets harder and harder to argue against.

Pikdum

really who cares where we came from,we should care about where we are going.