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#1 memorials
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Tool fans welcome in here. Please share your case on how "good" they are.
Here's reason why they're terrible.

- Their fanbase are a bunch of dicks trying to state how "smart" their music is.
- Most of the songs they do are repetitive and bland
- They're try to be different when they just come of as stupid.
- Anyone who relates them to any great artist (When I say this I mean calling them as brilliant as Mozart or any great clas sical or pretty much any great muscian's) should go jump of a cliff.
- When I hear them I generally want to fall asleep and/or kill myself.



Discuss.

Also please do not post their life story/ or "struggles" they went through to become the "great" band they are today.

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#2 lobodob
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Tool fans welcome in here. Please share your case on how "good" they are.
Here's reason why they're terrible.

- Their fanbase are a bunch of dicks trying to state how "smart" their music is.
- Most of the songs they do are repetitive and bland
- They're try to be different when they just come of as stupid.
- Anyone who relates them to any great artist (When I say this I mean calling them as brilliant as Mozart or any great clas sical or pretty much any great muscian's) should go jump of a cliff.
- When I hear them I generally want to fall asleep and/or kill myself.



Discuss.

Also please do not post their life story/ or "struggles" they went through to become the "great" band they are today.

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lol, I like how only one of your statements was about their music. But I agree, Tool sucks.
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#3 memorials
Member since 2007 • 438 Posts
^ Shhhh it's a secret. But that statement generally sums up about how I feel about their music.
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#4 Whicker89
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I love how people use OT to vent about things, so funny

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#5 Whicker89
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Tool fans welcome in here. Please share your case on how "good" they are.
Here's reason why they're terrible.

- Their fanbase are a bunch of dicks trying to state how "smart" their music is. - Generalization
- Most of the songs they do are repetitive and bland - Opinion
- They're try to be different when they just come of as stupid. - Opinion
- Anyone who relates them to any great artist (When I say this I mean calling them as brilliant as Mozart or any great clas sical or pretty much any great muscian's) should go jump of a cliff. - Opinion
- When I hear them I generally want to fall asleep and/or kill myself. - emo

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fission mailed
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#6 dodgerblue13
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Better yet, why not assemble a better band instead of trying to hate on Tool?

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#7 a55assin
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Hmm...Tool rocks. I love the band...it's one of my favorites actually. The reason? Probably because there are only a few bands out there that have such good songs and are so innovative.
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#8 TM_Darkside
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I enjoy their basslines and originality, not to mention they're a very good live band. I like Tool, but I can understand why some people wouldn't.
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#9 memorials
Member since 2007 • 438 Posts

Not sticking up for Tool or anything, but why are you rambling about them in the Off-Topic forum at Gamespot? Will it accomplish anything?

dodgerblue13

YES GODDAMNIT,YES!

I don't even know why I made this topic. Hell even i think my points suck...

damnit...

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#10 Cerussite
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I don't like Tool, and I don't like the fact that Buzz Osborne recorded a song with them. But I'll live with it, albeit, slightly delirious and in an constantly epileptic state.

They're not original, though. Anybody who's heard a NoMeansNo album will know what I'm talking about.

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#11 dodgerblue13
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YES GODDAMNIT,YES!

I don't even know why I made this topic. Hell even i think my points suck...

damnit...

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I changed my post. It ain't my business to be in yours, but it just seems useless. Once your band outdoes Tool, then you can rant. That's all I'm sayin'.

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#12 a55assin
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[QUOTE="memorials"] YES GODDAMNIT,YES!

I don't even know why I made this topic. Hell even i think my points suck...

damnit...

dodgerblue13

I changed my post. It ain't my business to be in yours, but it just seems useless. Once your band outdoes Tool, then you can rant. That's all I'm sayin'.

Hey...was your sig recorded with a cellphone?

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#13 EboyLOL
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Eh, it's rather boring music. I guess I just don't like the fans of theirs who happen to have a superiority complex in regards to them, but that can be said for fans everywhere.
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#14 MattUD1
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I don't listen to the band because they are guilty by association. "What does that mean?" you may ask. I'll tell you boys and girls... Most Tool fans I have met (mostly on here) are absolutely arrogant, lording how their favorite band is the best thing since sliced bread. To me, that's enough reason to not listen to them.
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#15 dodgerblue13
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Hey...was your sig recorded with a cellphone?a55assin

Nope. I located it while I was looking at sports blogs. Can't remember which one...I read too many. :P

May I ask why you were asking?

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#17 TheJustin
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I think Tool is ok. I have a bunch of their CDs on my computer that My friend gave me (he has a boner for tool), but everytime I hear one I skip it. Sometimes not even knowing it's tool. I think they are just boring. I don't hate them or anything. I'm probably going to take the cds off my computer eventually.
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#18 memorials
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Most Tool fans I have met (mostly on here) are absolutely arrogant, lording how their favorite band is the best thing since sliced bread. MattUD1


- Their fanbase are a bunch of dicks trying to state how "smart" their music is.

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:P

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#19 spawnassasin
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i dont listen to them so i have nothing to say
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#20 memorials
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Most Tool fans I have met (mostly on here) are absolutely arrogant, lording how their favorite band is the best thing since sliced bread. MattUD1


- Their fanbase are a bunch of dicks trying to state how "smart" their music is.

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:P

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#21 EboyLOL
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Better yet, why not assemble a better band instead of trying to hate on Tool?

dodgerblue13
If someone thinks that a band sucks then they don't need to 'assemble a better band' to look legitimate.
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#22 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Most Tool fans I have met (mostly on here) are absolutely arrogant, lording how their favorite band is the best thing since sliced bread. memorials


- Their fanbase are a bunch of dicks trying to state how "smart" their music is.

memorials

:P

Yeah I know. I was looking at your last two points when I posted that.
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#23 a55assin
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[QUOTE="a55assin"]Hey...was your sig recorded with a cellphone?dodgerblue13

Nope. I located it while I was looking at sports blogs. Can't remember which one...I read too many. :P

May I ask why you were asking?

No reason...it just looked like someonerecorded it in the dark with a cp...curiousity. And it seemed familiar...

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#24 sinistergoggles
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I hear very little of Tool. Not too many people here talk about them. There sound isn't so bad... I've definetly heard worst.
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#25 dodgerblue13
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"]

Better yet, why not assemble a better band instead of trying to hate on Tool?

EboyLOL

If someone thinks that a band sucks then they don't need to 'assemble a better band' to look legitimate.

True, but he or she could at least back up their case with some decent arguement. I don't see how a fan base makes a band any better or worse than they are.

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#26 inyourface_12
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they may be overrated but they are far from bad
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#27 EboyLOL
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="dodgerblue13"]

Better yet, why not assemble a better band instead of trying to hate on Tool?

dodgerblue13

If someone thinks that a band sucks then they don't need to 'assemble a better band' to look legitimate.

True, but he or she could at least back up their case with some decent arguement. I don't see how a fan base makes a band any better or worse than they are.

Stating an opinion about musicdoesn't really require argument either. Fan bases don't make a band sound worse at all, it's just that in Tools case, many of their fan are known for being extremely pretentious in regards to the so-called superiority of Tool.
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#28 jesseandnikki
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I like them so I guess that makes me an arrogant prick Maybe their rhythm and tune just compliments my ears betters than it does yours. By stating that their fanbase is arragont in turn makes you arragont, because it sounds to me that you think you're better than a certain group of people because of the music they prefer.

Epic fail. GTFO.

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#29 quiglythegreat
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Tool is all right, it's just that when you play that low, you might as well be headbanging. They flirt with be a prog band but then never follow through with it, plus they're probably just not harmonic enough to ever be able to experiment that much.
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#30 MoonSpoon
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What a discussion.
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#31 dodgerblue13
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Stating an opinion about musicdoesn't really require argument either. Fan bases don't make a band sound worse at all, it's just that in Tools case, many of their fan are known for being extremely pretentious in regards to the so-called superiority of Tool.EboyLOL

You can state an opinion without arguement, yeah. But he wants discussion. He provided little and no one else seemed to add anything except the elaboration of the arrogant fans.

Edit: Typo'd opinion and that bugs me.

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#32 TheMutableOne
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I absolutely love Tool, but I don't feel the need to tell anyone why, or convert anyone. You either connect with the music or you don't, that simple. BTW your post fails... you can't say a band sucks because of their fanbase. And "They're try to be different when they just come of as stupid" ????
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#33 EboyLOL
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"] Stating an opinion about musicdoesn't really require argument either. Fan bases don't make a band sound worse at all, it's just that in Tools case, many of their fan are known for being extremely pretentious in regards to the so-called superiority of Tool.dodgerblue13

You can state an opinino without arguement, yeah. But he wants discussion. He provided little and no one else seemed to add anything except the elaboration of the arrogant fans.

At least he admitted it.
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#34 Cerussite
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What a discussion.MoonSpoon
(A) What discussion?

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I'm clever, I know.

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#35 dodgerblue13
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At least he admitted it.EboyLOL

I know that he did. So that makes him right and me wrong, correct?

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#36 Panzer-schreck
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I think their lyrics are powerful. i don't think they suck, but I don't listen to them regularly.
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#37 cametall
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What do you want *us* to discuss? All you did is insult Tool's fanbase and their music.

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#38 Big_Bad_Sad
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I wouldnt say Im a fan, but I like a few songs.
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#39 Thechaninator
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I definitely think the band is overrated and I have ran into too many rabid Tool fans...

I like a couple songs and I think I will give them another chance...

BTW any find it funny how the rabid Tool fans are conspiculously absent in this discussion after it being mentioned how arrogant they are? I know there are people on there who will fight like crazy that Tool is the greatest band ever....

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#40 cametall
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I definitely think the band is overrated and I have ran into too many rabid Tool fans...

I like a couple songs and I think I will give them another chance...

BTW any find it funny how the rabid Tool fans are conspiculously absent in this discussion after it being mentioned how arrogant they are? I know there are people on there who will fight like crazy that Tool is the greatest band ever....

Thechaninator

Well... a band being the "greatest band ever" is entirely opinion. They're my favorite band, to me they're the greatest band ever because I really like their sound and lyrics.

As for the arrogant comment. Yeah, there are a lot of arrogant Tool fans. But every band has an arrogant sect in their fanbase.

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#41 Assassinslay
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Tool fail

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#42 Thechaninator
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[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

I definitely think the band is overrated and I have ran into too many rabid Tool fans...

I like a couple songs and I think I will give them another chance...

BTW any find it funny how the rabid Tool fans are conspiculously absent in this discussion after it being mentioned how arrogant they are? I know there are people on there who will fight like crazy that Tool is the greatest band ever....

cametall

Well... a band being the "greatest band ever" is entirely opinion. They're my favorite band, to me they're the greatest band ever because I really like their sound and lyrics.

As for the arrogant comment. Yeah, there are a lot of arrogant Tool fans. But every band has an arrogant sect in their fanbase.

I know favoritism is opinion, but I have run into quite a few people who have sat there and tried to PROVE that Tool is the GREATEST band ever. It is ridiculous....

I have never met an arrogant sect as bad as Tools, honestly...

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#43 Roland1987
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I don't listen to the band because they are guilty by association. "What does that mean?" you may ask. I'll tell you boys and girls... Most Tool fans I have met (mostly on here) are absolutely arrogant, lording how their favorite band is the best thing since sliced bread. To me, that's enough reason to not listen to them. MattUD1

So you hate on a band based on the false generalization you've made about their fanbase...does that logic really make sense to you?

I'm not a big Tool fan, so guess what? I don't listen to 'em, simple, huh?

To the TC, maybe your opinion would hold more weight if most of your gripes with the band were based on their music and not generalizations about them and their fanbase...

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#44 ridethestreets
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i love tool , there one of my favorite bands. i was listening to them when i saw this descusion. u can say what u want about them, i personaly dont give a **** what you think. i still love em.
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#45 deactivated-58f8be37da70d
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Geez you really take this stuff seriously dont you...I like tool but im not going to waste my time defending them, its JUST A BAND, one that i enjoy listening to every now and then. Thats all it is.
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#46 EboyLOL
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"] At least he admitted it.dodgerblue13

I know that he did. So that makes him right and me wrong, correct?

No... that's not what I meant in my post. I was being sarcastic. You are right. *goes out of thread once and for all*.
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#47 EboyLOL
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"] At least he admitted it.dodgerblue13

I know that he did. So that makes him right and me wrong, correct?

No... that's not what I meant in my post. I was being sarcastic. You are right. *goes out of thread once and for all*.
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#48 dissonantblack
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i can't stand tool either. i dislike the sound of their music. but their militant fanbase irks me a lot more. apperently i don't really like music because i don't listen to tool...
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#49 RoyalAssassin78
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Tool is one of my favorite rock artists, however it is pretty ridiculous for anyone to state they are as great as Mozart or other classical composers. For me and what I like, I think they produce great music for their genre, that's about it. I wouldn't necessarily consider them brilliant, but I'd have a hard time choosing any rock band that would deserve such a title. I just like their music, simple as that.
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#50 Cerussite
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Tool is one of my favorite rock artists, however it is pretty ridiculous for anyone to state they are as great as Mozart or other classical composers. For me and what I like, I think they produce great music for their genre, that's about it. I wouldn't necessarily consider them brilliant, but I'd have a hard time choosing any rock band that would deserve such a title. I just like their music, simple as that. RoyalAssassin78
So, classical composers can be brilliant, but rock bands can't?

I'd like to see the criteria for brilliance, it seems they've updated it to not include logic.