This Is Why We Have Anti Gay Laws In North Carolina and Mississippi

Did the baker refuse to sell the couple anything in the store and kick them out? Or did the baker only refuse to do a special order cake with custom decorations?

If it was a custom cake, I feel the baker had the right to refuse.

I'm pretty sure they just wanted a cake for their wedding. But he refused because they were a lesbian couple getting married.

I hope this is a lesson to everybody; lie.

Good for them, I don't think that businesses should be allowed to turn someone away because they don't agree with a customer's sexuality.

Its the "supporting same sex marriage" message decoration they wanted to put on their wedding cake was the problem. The baker was against that. I am sure they have no problem selling them cake without that message they wanted. :P

Other nonsense. Deciding to live a gay life style is most certainly a choice. You may not be able to stop the bird from flying around your head, but you sure as frag can stop it from nesting on your head.

And why is that even relevant? If someone is born in a certain way and that way isn't harming anybody then there is absolutely no reason why they should have to hide who they are.

Also I'm not quite sure what you mean by "stop it from nesting on your head", that while one can feel the curiosity, they can suppress it? If that's the case: if you've ever felt an attraction towards another human without first giving your brain and body permission to feel so, which I'm sure we all have at some point or other in our lives, then you should know just how truly idiotic your statement is.

to be fair, just being sued doesn't mean a thing. you can sue someone for anything.

it's only a problem if the lawsuit is upheld

Yeah, lets compare jailing a bird against its best interests and what it does naturally with forcing gay people to hide their true nature as well.

People like you are monsters and I'm actually glad that this mindset is dying off. I welcome the demise of view points like yours. Have fun continuing to fight a futile battle against the inevitable.

@Starshine_M2A2: I've been denied service in the UK because I took a sharp tone and the staff felt I was being disrespectful.

Since 2012 Majority of Pro Gay marriage legislation has passed while the majority of anti-gay marriage legislation has failed.

But don't let facts get in the way of your failed personal capacity to accept someone that is different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_legislation_in_the_United_States

Custom cake that he would have to do the art for.

Of course , humans are predators who are forced to act on simple impulses and emotions. Or not.

And you are right there is nothing wrong with being attracted to your own gender, problem is when you start claiming it´s not a choice to act on it. The ability to choose is what separates humans from animals.

And i am not religious , religion is opium for the masses.

Oh, and nice tone, not used to people telling you, when you are wrong?

I was responding to someone claiming that a gay lifestyle is not a choice.

As i said above there is nothing wrong with being gay or straight or bi or whatever you identify yourself as. The problem only begins when people claim that acting on it is not a choice, because that makes it seem like they are animals who cannot help themselves. One of the things that separates humans from animals is our ability to choose what emotions/impulses we act on.

Also by saying it´s not a choice you are also infact justifying more "dark urges" like pedo´s and other crazy things. And funny enough no one has a problem, saying that those "attractions" are sick and a choice.

@Jacanuk: One has the choice to not act upon it the way one has the choice to not drink water for a week and die. We can supress our sexual desires enough to not act upon every last desire we have at any given moment (or at least we should), sure, but to try and shift the responsibility onto gay people is silly, since the only way you could justify that is if there were something morally wrong with the attraction towards your own gender, which there isn't.

And yeah, @LostProphetFLCL, I understand anger or indignation towards comments like these that defame people or groups, but please remember there's better ways to go about it than to tell someone to go **** themselves.

Not really, by saying this you also justify more dark urges, and do you really want to say that those dark sides are not a choice and those people are just helpless victims?

I can agree that sex is a powerful thing for some people, but most normal intelligent people has the ability to choose and to either suppress them by "self-service" or simply by ignoring them. And if you really do not have that ability you can always use medicine to help you.

So do understand that there is nothing wrong morally with any lifestyle, gay or straight. All i am saying is that it´s a choice.

nothing wrong morally with any lifestyle, gay or straight. All i am saying is that it´s a choice.

fcking fascist

you have never expereinced sexuality as being an part of yourself ... sexuality is only an asset for you that exist totally indepentant from your self or individual ... its just an asset you use to gain controle over yourself and others ... but thats the same as deniying its true meaning

Sexuality isn't defined by who you have sex with, it's defined by who you want to have sex with.

You can ignore your sexual attractions and remain a virgin for life, but that isn't choosing your sexuality.

I did not talk about legislation I talked about people voting at the polls on gay marriage. Two different things. People when given a chance to vote on the subject have voted it down every time. That is why the Supreme court had to step had to rule on the subject. Get your facts strait before you start making personal judgments.

gay marriage ? bring it on !

Yeah, you said polls the first time which is why I mentioned the PEW poll.

Then you moved the goalpost to Legislation, which I again, proved you wrong.

Now you went back to polling because I guess you forgot your first attempt.

And you've provided no sources for any of your statements.

Keep moving those goalposts junior!!!!

One can be gay without living the gay lifestyle.

Being gay or straight aint a choice.

There's a reason we have laws like this because people can use religion to justify not serving people for discriminatory purposes. During civil rights era part of the issue was businesses refused to serve people of color, they refused to rent, they refused to sell goods and services. Using religion as a form of discrimination just opens the floodgates to all that bad stuff. This type of activism from the right is really only just abusing religious freedoms in hopes of exercising their prejudices, but nobody is really buying who isn't already drinking their toxic Kool Aid. And if they ever have their way, heaven forbid, it won't stop with gays.

Religion excuse is bullshit though, do you ever hear of bakers refusing to make a cake because those getting married engaged in premarital sex, or ate shellfish, or worked on the Sabbath, are too materialistic, or aren't of their denomination... no, this is about homophobic bigotry and nothing more. Just further goes to show people who wave the Bible around are even more full of shit. Then they go support guns and 2nd Amendment and defend people who shoot people of color but then pretend to love a book that preacher leading a more righteous path of non-violence and loving our fellow man. So full of shit.

As a gay person who's met a lot of other gay people from a wide range of backgrounds, I still haven't figured out what the gay lifestyle even is.

As i said , "you cannot stop the bird from flying around your head, but you can stop it from nesting"

@JimB: marriage equality should never have been up for a vote in the first place. The rights of law abiding minorities being up for a vote by the majority is absurd and against all of our founding principles

@lamprey263: fair point. When you point out the horrors of the Old Testament it "it doesn't count we are under grace not law". But when they need an excuse to be bigots? Right back to the OT. If I walked in eating shellfish wearing mixed fiber clothing they wouldn't refuse service, and that's also frowned upon by Yahweh.

Selective cherry picking nonsense.

What exactly is the "gay lifestyle"

Not all Gay men like the Rocky Horror Picture Show