This restaurant would get my business

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/restaurant-bans-young-kids/story?id=14056230

I'm glad to see that some businesses are adopting this idea. I hope it expands. I don't know how many times the wife and I have went out hoping for a nice peaceful dinner together only to have to spoiled by somebody's screaming bratty offspring. Personally I've long held that if I ran a restaraunt I'd make it kids free, or at the very least have certain kids-free hours.

worlock77

I'm not against ether and have never gave any indication of such. Not sure why, but you seem to like to make up things and project them onto your "opponents".

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[QUOTE="Mafiree"] I guess since the US doesn't believe in personal responsibility anymore this is the solution to most problems.YellowOneKinobi

Personal responsiblity has nothing to do with it. It's the business owner's right to set the rules he wishes, including prohibiting people under a certain age, for his establishment.

Eh, I think that if somebody takes out a business loan, assumes all the risks that that entails, they should have the right to run the business as they see fit (of course I'm sure there are some reasonable exceptions). Same goes for small bars, where an owner is the sole bartender..... if he/she want's to allow smoking in there, I fail to see why he can't.

- No, they could not refuse service to blacks. Race is a federally protected status. But there's no rules against discriminating based on age (with the exception of establishments that have received federal funds).

- Absolutely.

currently wondering what happened to simply asking the guardian of the kid that is throwing the fit, to please leave the restaurant because it is of nuisance to the other customers, hence detrimental to their business

banning people based on their age instead of their person isn't anywhere close to the ideal solution

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] that is a discriminatory policy i thought you were against those, i also thought you were against businesses.

surrealnumber5

I'm not against ether and have never gave any indication of such. Not sure why, but you seem to like to make up things and project them onto your "opponents".

Explan how I'm being a hypocrite.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I'm not against ether and have never gave any indication of such. Not sure why, but you seem to like to make up things and project them onto your "opponents".

worlock77

Explan how I'm being a hypocrite.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] nope never done that but thanks for being a hypocrite

surrealnumber5

Explan how I'm being a hypocrite.

Yes, I understand what the word means. Now explain how I'm being a hypocrite.

currently wondering what happened to simply asking the guardian of the kid that is throwing the fit, to please leave the restaurant because it is of nuisance to the other customers, hence detrimental to their business

banning people based on their age instead of their person isn't anywhere close to the ideal solution

BiancaDK

Because confrontation = conflict. Which is far more damaging to a business than avoiding the possibility of a scene all together. It's also not just for the sake of business and customers. They have the employees to think of as well. How many people do you know of that would get defensive or even angry if asked to leave because of how their children are acting? Many people don't exactly react rationally when it comes to their own children. This creates the possibility of an employee to be verbally (or in some cases physically) assaulted every time they have to do this. This is not the kind of working environment any business wants to foster.

As already been stated by many, the simplest solution is the most effective in a case like this. A business cannot possibly be expected to take every single customer on an individual case by case basis. It's an unrealistic proposal. Are they supposed to kee some sort of picture and name database and ask for every single customers name and look them up to make sure they aren't on the "banned" list?

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currently wondering what happened to simply asking the guardian of the kid that is throwing the fit, to please leave the restaurant because it is of nuisance to the other customers, hence detrimental to their business

banning people based on their age instead of their person isn't anywhere close to the ideal solution

keech

Because confrontation = conflict. Which is far more damaging to a business than avoiding the possibility of a scene all together. It's also not just for the sake of business and customers. They have the employees to think of as well. How many people do you know of that would get defensive or even angry if asked to leave because of how their children are acting? Many people don't exactly react rationally when it comes to their own children. This creates the possibility of an employee to be verbally (or in some cases physically) assaulted every time they have to do this. This is not the kind of working environment any business wants to foster.

As already been stated by many, the simplest solution is the most effective in a case like this. A business cannot possibly be expected to take every single customer on an individual case by case basis. It's an unrealistic proposal. Are they supposed to kee some sort of picture and name database and ask for every single customers name and look them up to make sure they aren't on the "banned" list?

Odd equation, given the notion that confrontation is as good as synonymous with the word conflict. Although, in fairness, the equation isn't nearly as odd as your perception on the general mental condition of modern parents. Yes, there's always the possibility of being verbally, or physically, assaulted, when you work in the service industry, there are bound to be certain potential hazards involved, a hazard that is in no way restricted to the various mannerisms of parents that bring their pods into your establishment. "This is not the kind of working environment any business wants to foster", you're putting it as if you think a restaurant that doesn't incorporate this ban into their business is like clocking into Sarajevo on a bad day. I've worked in a restaurant as a waitress, where I had to engage into a dialogue with certain individuals that were unwanted at the time (drunks, addicts etc.), and I've never gotten verbally assaulted, let alone physically assaulted, because it's not a question of the issue you raise, it's a question of how you raise it.

I've worked in a restaurant as a waitress, where I had to engage into a dialogue with certain individuals that were unwanted at the time (drunks, addicts etc.), and I've never gotten verbally assaulted, let alone physically assaulted, because it's not a question of the issue you raise, it's a question of how you raise it.

BiancaDK

I'm not sure what it's like in Denmark but in the UK parents rage at teachers because their kids didn't get a good grade and not because the teacher didn't teach them well enough but because they wouldn't write down a good grade for the ability they had. markop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"]I'm not sure what it's like in Denmark but in the UK parents rage at teachers because their kids didn't get a good grade and not because the teacher didn't teach them well enough but because they wouldn't write down a good grade for the ability they had. BiancaDK

Some Businessesshare my hate for children.

How awesome

I've honestly never had a problem with whinging/crying children at the restaraunts I go to, other then fast food joints. If only public trams/buses would adopt these policies though :P.

this is not a kid problem this is a crappy parent that is too cowardly to tell their kid to sit down and shut up problem.

this is not a kid problem this is a crappy parent that is too cowardly to tell their kid to sit down and shut up problem.

Riverwolf007

That may be, but regardless of the cause the end result is the same. So just bar children and eliminate the issue altogether.

BTW surrealnumber5 - I'd still like to know in what way you find me a hypocrite.

"A few weeks ago, Malaysia Airlines announced that it would ban infants from flying in the first-class cabin because other passengers had complained about squalling babies." Lul wut? Since when did babies fly first class?markop2003

Most airlines allow babies to sit on a parent's lap during flight. If a parent buys a first class ticket, baby ends up in first class.

I wish theaters would start banning little kids/babies also.

Pirate700

go to late-night showings :P

It's about freakin' time

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I wish theaters would start banning little kids/babies also.

munchlax99

go to late-night showings :P

Wouldn't matter. I have seen parents with school aged children at a Longhorn's Steakhouse at 9 at night getting dinner on a school night. Elementary school aged children should be in bed by that time. I have also seen parents with their kids at Wally World at 2 AM. Do you think that it would matter to them if a movie is a late-night show?

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I wish theaters would start banning little kids/babies also.

munchlax99

go to late-night showings :P

Normally one would think this would be an easy solution, but over the last 15 years I've noticed an alarming large sweeping trend of parents not wanting to be inconvenienced by the fact that they have children and routinely for casual reasons keeping them up and out at business establishments on weekdays during school months until the hours of 11pm, midnight and beyond. I've gone to movies that started at 10pm on school nights and regularly seen them full of children whose feet don't even come close to touching the floor when seated.

I would think if people can afford to go out to a decent restaurant or go to the movies, they can afford to hire a babysitter for the night also.