Those who believe in God. I have 1 question for you guys......

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#101 lobodob
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When "god" shows up, she's gonna reprogram all of our vcrs to record crappy reality tv shows like survivor. Then Ill threaten her with my lucky rabbit head and she will explode
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#102 Armpitfarter
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don't worry about it
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#103 Josh_345
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[QUOTE="Josh_345"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="maheo30"]They don't worship the same God at all. One religion is works while the other says no amount of works will save you. And the Allah is vastly different than Christ. To say they are the same is truely ignorant of a Rosie Odonnel proportion.
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They absolutely do worship the same God, just because they worship Him differently does not give you the right to say otherwise, any more than you are entitled to disclaim Yahweh as God. And Islam does not treat Allah and Christ as analogs. In their teachings, Jews, Christians and Muslims are all "people of the Book," and the analogs among them are Abraham, Jesus Chris and Mohammed.

Maybe everyone should be Christian then we can be saved either way.

Are you discounting the 5 bajillion other religions on the planet?

No offence but I would go with the Christian Muslim combo then following some wooden statue.
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#104 lemonfreshpanda
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[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="mohan88"][QUOTE="espoac"]Isaac Newton said 2060. But then agian he was also an alchemist who thought you could make a stone which cured diseases and turned lead into gold.espoac

Did Isaac Newton(?say?) God will appear in 2060?

Well, Jesus. But to Christians that's the same thing, ya know with the trinity and all. I don't know I'm an atheist, so to me this is all ridiculous banter. But I would lie if I said it wasn't amusing for me to watch theists argue about the aspects of something which to me doesn't even exist.

 

Why be athiest?

Athiesism is useless until we can explain everything which will never happen.

Why be a Theist? It's useless in that organized religion a crock of lies. And Deism is a blind assumption that is sort of comforting. I value the truth. There doesn't need to be a God for the universe to exist, therfore why should I assume that there is one? Especially when he's never shown me that he exists at all.

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Hmmm. I probably shouldn't have said all that since it's off topic. But it seems like such a shame to delete it all.

You didn't make an argument. You used a number of other opinions to back up another.
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#105 thotoz
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[QUOTE="thotoz"]

Give me proof God doesn't exist. Give me proof God does exist. Or give me proof where in the Bible Jesus said "I am God, worship me".

LJS9502_basic

What does this have to do with your statement? Nothing at all....though if you are concerned about Jesus...he was the fulfillment of the Scripture in the OT.

But I'm interested in your common sense proof.....please enlighten us.

Fulfillment in the OT? Even Islam accepts that. But is Jesus the Son of God and was he resurrected/crucified? No.

My friend...search Ahmed Deedat or Dr Zakir Naik on youtube and find a video debate on the subject of Jesus's crucification/resurrection.

Btw, in what way has Christianity helped the world historically,etc? We know Islam helped Science. For Judaism, many Jews were very smart and helped Science. Christianity? Well...they are always against Science cause their book contradicts Science.

And Allah says to respect Jews and Christians, because they are also "the people of the book". While Christian Preachers say nasty stuff about the Koran and its validity..

The Koran says that after Muslims, the second largest group of people entering Heaven will be the Jews. You know why? Because there's no reason to hate the Jews. They only rejected Jesus because CHRISTIANS said Jesus was resurrected when Jesus himself gave his last prophesy to the Jews that he will be like Jonah (and Jonah was alive in the belly of the fish).

Christians will still go to Heaven I'm guessing, it's just that a lot of them say disgusting things about the Koran (though there are many very nice Christians that respect the Koran, but many other Christians...though they may not show it, in their heart I'm sure they think evil of the Koran)

But remember, that if you do good deeds, whether you are an atheist or a theist or a Hindu you will enter Heaven...in my opinion. 

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#106 Kalel559
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God is already here. You must be asking when Jesus is coming. And the answer to that is: no one knows.
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#107 04JETTA
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when god is good and ready god will come
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#108 orangegroveog22
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Well answer this question first:

 

What christians do you know that claim to know when God is coming?   

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#109 Napster06
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He exists, we worship. Its all in the faith. You don't see Him, but you know He's there.
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#110 NextGenNow
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I always thought it was a steaming pile of BS ppl made up to feel good about themselves. Looking at it from both points...its waaay harder to be an Athiest...you accept the fact life just ends....if your right...its over. If your wrong you burn in somebodies hell lol so either way Athiesm takes more courage IMO
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#112 dommeus
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You'll know all the answers when you are dead, dont worry about it.princemarth23

You don't worry about the fact that all the time spent believing and following Christianity could ammount to nothing?! It would sure worry me.

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#113 the_bi99man
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Don't spend your life preparing for the return of Christ and/or God Himself, because there is no telling when that will happen. Could be in five minutes. Could be never. Don't prepare for the death, live for the life.
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Fulfillment in the OT? Even Islam accepts that. But is Jesus the Son of God and was he resurrected/crucified? No.

My friend...search Ahmed Deedat or Dr Zakir Naik on youtube and find a video debate on the subject of Jesus's crucification/resurrection.

Btw, in what way has Christianity helped the world historically,etc? We know Islam helped Science. For Judaism, many Jews were very smart and helped Science. Christianity? Well...they are always against Science cause their book contradicts Science.

And Allah says to respect Jews and Christians, because they are also "the people of the book". While Christian Preachers say nasty stuff about the Koran and its validity..

The Koran says that after Muslims, the second largest group of people entering Heaven will be the Jews. You know why? Because there's no reason to hate the Jews. They only rejected Jesus because CHRISTIANS said Jesus was resurrected when Jesus himself gave his last prophesy to the Jews that he will be like Jonah (and Jonah was alive in the belly of the fish).

Christians will still go to Heaven I'm guessing, it's just that a lot of them say disgusting things about the Koran (though there are many very nice Christians that respect the Koran, but many other Christians...though they may not show it, in their heart I'm sure they think evil of the Koran)

But remember, that if you do good deeds, whether you are an atheist or a theist or a Hindu you will enter Heaven...in my opinion. 

thotoz

Yeah....I'm sorry but I disagree with your interpretation....and neither you nor your youtube friends can prove otherwise.  Who goes into Heaven isn't left up to your opinion.

There is a bit of historical documentatiion that states otherwise, however.

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#115 krunkmastax
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Yay another religion thread!
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Fulfillment in the OT? Even Islam accepts that. But is Jesus the Son of God and was he resurrected/crucified? No.

My friend...search Ahmed Deedat or Dr Zakir Naik on youtube and find a video debate on the subject of Jesus's crucification/resurrection.

Btw, in what way has Christianity helped the world historically,etc? We know Islam helped Science. For Judaism, many Jews were very smart and helped Science. Christianity? Well...they are always against Science cause their book contradicts Science.

And Allah says to respect Jews and Christians, because they are also "the people of the book". While Christian Preachers say nasty stuff about the Koran and its validity..

The Koran says that after Muslims, the second largest group of people entering Heaven will be the Jews. You know why? Because there's no reason to hate the Jews. They only rejected Jesus because CHRISTIANS said Jesus was resurrected when Jesus himself gave his last prophesy to the Jews that he will be like Jonah (and Jonah was alive in the belly of the fish).

Christians will still go to Heaven I'm guessing, it's just that a lot of them say disgusting things about the Koran (though there are many very nice Christians that respect the Koran, but many other Christians...though they may not show it, in their heart I'm sure they think evil of the Koran)

But remember, that if you do good deeds, whether you are an atheist or a theist or a Hindu you will enter Heaven...in my opinion.

thotoz

Actually, the Koran says to kill all infidels (or, more specifically, "if you see an infidel, slit his throat"), and defines "infidel" as "anyone who does not believe the koran and worship allah".

Good try, though. 

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#117 RogerC44
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After the end of the world. At least that's when Jesus will show up.
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#118 sniperhare
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Yeah God can't show up anywhere, God is spirit and everywhere at all times.  Jesus Christ will show up at some point, but no one knows when. 

On another note, I've never understood why so many people assume science dissproves God.  If anything the understanding of science can only further explain the perfect design of God's creation. ( And all was right in the beginning, but when the devil got dominion over the earth, he started screwing around with everything.)  Even on topics like evolution you can still have room for religious beliefs.  While I do not believe that we evolved from monkey who evolved from goo, It is true that animals and people change to live in their enviorments. 

Why is it so hard to believe that God set up ours and natures bodies to be able to change? Since God knew that we would move to different areas of the Earth. God in his forknowledge also knew that the Earth would become divided and knew that animals would have to be able to adapt to their new homes.

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#119 SpaceMoose
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 ( And all was right in the beginning, but when the devil got dominion over the earth, he started screwing around with everything.)

sniperhare

Sorry, I missed something: Why did God create the devil again?

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#120 GeorgeTopouria
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How can something/someone that doesn't exist show up?
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#121 sinarilias
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(The follwing is NOT what I think)Because religon, which is the basis for believing in god, was proven to be corrupted throughout history. Also, having faith in some unknown omnimous power that we can NEVER comprehend is not logical at all/
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#122 Vfanek
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He will come like a thief in the night.

Noone noes the day nor hour.

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Reported. I'm insulted, gravely.. Comparing the Lord to a thief? Have you no respect?

 

No just kidding.. but wouldn't suprise me if someone said this and was serious. 

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#123 -Keel-_basic
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Never.  God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.
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#124 sinarilias
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Never.  God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.-Keel-_basic

That's a little too harsh. Even for an agnostic.

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#125 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Never.  God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.-Keel-_basic

Even though I don't belive in god, I think comments like these are getting old and crappy

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#126 -Keel-_basic
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[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Never. God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.sinarilias

That's a little too harsh. Even for an agnostic.

And Mary was a whore. 

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#127 -Keel-_basic
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[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Never. God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.jointed

Even though I don't belive in god, I think comments like these are getting old and crappy

You're right.  Clearly voicing these opinions has been going on for way too long.  Someone must put an end to it. 

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#129 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Never. God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.-Keel-_basic

Even though I don't belive in god, I think comments like these are getting old and crappy

You're right.  Clearly voicing these opinions has been going on for way too long.  Someone must put an end to it. 

The only thing you accomplished was to  offend christians.

It's disturbing that you, yourself,  don't see the problem in your comment

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#130 -Keel-_basic
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[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Never. God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.jointed

Even though I don't belive in god, I think comments like these are getting old and crappy

You're right. Clearly voicing these opinions has been going on for way too long. Someone must put an end to it.

The only thing you accomplished was to offend christians.

It's disturbing that you, yourself, don't see the problem in your comment

Why is stating my beliefs an offensive thing? That's ridiculous. Anyone who is offended by my belief system can go to hell.

 

EDIT: And please nobody point out the irony in me saying 'go to hell.'  It's really obvious, shutup. 

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#131 sinarilias
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Never. God or Jesus will never come because God's not real and Jesus was just a carpenter.-Keel-_basic

Even though I don't belive in god, I think comments like these are getting old and crappy

You're right. Clearly voicing these opinions has been going on for way too long. Someone must put an end to it.

The only thing you accomplished was to offend christians.

It's disturbing that you, yourself, don't see the problem in your comment

Why is stating my beliefs an offensive thing?  That's ridiculous.  Anyone who is offended by my belief system can go to hell. 

Put it in less offensive words and you'll have more respect. I'm sure.