Thoughts on Ghhays and Lesbians

I'm conflicted. Part of me says I have a moral obligation to vote against gays right to get married, but I don't really know if it's a choice or not. Why would you willingly choose man over woman or visa versa. I also think that under our constitution they should be treated equal, but that goes against my religious beliefs.

byof_america

I'm conflicted. Part of me says I have a moral obligation to vote against gays right to get married, but I don't really know if it's a choice or not. Why would you willingly choose man over woman or visa versa. I also think that under our constitution they should be treated equal, but that goes against my religious beliefs.

byof_america

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]Well, I think that some people most certainly have a tendency to be tempted to "have relations" with members of the same sex, just like some people are predisposed to sex addictions or the infidelity that tends to arise from them. It seems to me that Homosexuality, as it is describes as wrong in the Bible, is the actual act of copulating with a member of the same sex (which is most certainly addressed) .

foxhound_fox

Christians with agendas have been interpreting the Bible to their means since its existed. The Crusades, The Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, American Slavery, and now gay bashing. I'm obviously not saying Christianity is inherently evil, but the Bible has been used to justify some fairly terrible things.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]Gotta love Christians for not accepting people for who they are :lol: XD4NTESINF3RNOX

[QUOTE="Immortalica"]Sorry if I'm not gay and don't want to sit there and watch two guys macking it. Not for me.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]Well, I think that some people most certainly have a tendency to be tempted to "have relations" with members of the same sex, just like some people are predisposed to sex addictions or the infidelity that tends to arise from them. It seems to me that Homosexuality, as it is describes as wrong in the Bible, is the actual act of copulating with a member of the same sex (which is most certainly addressed) .

wstfld

Christians with agendas have been interpreting the Bible to their means since its existed. The Crusades, The Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, American Slavery, and now gay bashing. I'm obviously not saying Christianity is inherently evil, but the Bible has been used to justify some fairly terrible things.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]Gotta love Christians for not accepting people for who they are :lol: Lto_thaG

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]Well, I think that some people most certainly have a tendency to be tempted to "have relations" with members of the same sex, just like some people are predisposed to sex addictions or the infidelity that tends to arise from them. It seems to me that Homosexuality, as it is describes as wrong in the Bible, is the actual act of copulating with a member of the same sex (which is most certainly addressed) .

wstfld

Christians with agendas have been interpreting the Bible to their means since its existed. The Crusades, The Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, American Slavery, and now gay bashing. I'm obviously not saying Christianity is inherently evil, but the Bible has been used to justify some fairly terrible things.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
... it is "wrong" to "lie with a man like you would a woman."

McJugga

Really? Okay, you look ridiculous in that outfit.

This is so much less satisfying without the indignation.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
... it is "wrong" to "lie with a man like you would a woman."

McJugga

Really? Okay, you look ridiculous in that outfit.

Personally I am totally OK with people loving and/or sleeping with whoever the hell they want to, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

I love how this turned into another religious bashing thread. Ah, OT, you never cease to disappoint. 3eyedrazorback

[QUOTE="McJugga"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

Really? Okay, you look ridiculous in that outfit.

Theokhoth

The same reason God allows anyone to commit any sin. To restrain them would be in violation of free will, a tenet necessary to the foundation of Christianity. I think that the Bible is fairly clear cut in regards to the actual practice of homosexuality. And I didn't mean to offend, but aren't sex addiction and homosexuality respectively not just too much of this or that hormone?

Penguinchow

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I love how this turned into another religious bashing thread. Ah, OT, you never cease to disappoint. XD4NTESINF3RNOX

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="McJugga"] Your butt looks fat. :|

FFCYAN

Well, they are homosexuals. That's about it. I wouldn't know more about them because all people are different to some degree.

This is not a gay bashing thread, but I just wanted to know what your thought on Homosexual couples is. Dont say, well they can do whatever they want if it doesnt bother me...I want your honest opinion

Personally, I believe that homosexuality is unnatural and as a christian unethical. You cant reproduce, and who would want to be the child adopted by two fathers...just a thought

BubbaRay12

[QUOTE="wstfld"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
That being your interpretation. I've supplied one of my own as well already. Doesn't that suggest that perhaps the "rule" against homosexuality isn't as solid as it should be, and that perhaps it isn't something that should be condemned for being a little "different" to heterosexual relationships? If God didn't want people to be homosexual, why allow them to practice it in the first place?

I find, even as a heterosexual, the connection between "sex addiction" and infidelity to homosexuality to be quite offensive.

Penguinchow

Christians with agendas have been interpreting the Bible to their means since its existed. The Crusades, The Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, American Slavery, and now gay bashing. I'm obviously not saying Christianity is inherently evil, but the Bible has been used to justify some fairly terrible things.

No that's fine. Trying to legislate against it is wrong.

[QUOTE="BubbaRay12"]Dont say, well they can do whatever they want if it doesnt bother me...I want your honest opinionBiancaDK

that sentence has no worth. Can't anyone and everyone pretty much do anything and everything, as long as it doesen't bother you? Because, ya know -- it doesen't bother you?

That doesen't mean you find what "they" want to do to be right, it just means that as long as they conform to whatever your values are, it's fine with you, which uh is pretty much a given, since it's your values, and not their values. =|

on topic:

Homosexuals can do whatever the hell they want in regards to their sexuality and any practice thereof, as much as heterosexuals and bisexuals can.

Poor BubbaRay, explicate your statement next time lest you be torn to shreds. I believe he thought that statement portrayed congenial intentions though... or maybe I just see the best in people.

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]The same reason God allows anyone to commit any sin. To restrain them would be in violation of free will, a tenet necessary to the foundation of Christianity. I think that the Bible is fairly clear cut in regards to the actual practice of homosexuality. And I didn't mean to offend, but aren't sex addiction and homosexuality respectively not just too much of this or that hormone?

foxhound_fox

This is not a gay bashing thread, but I just wanted to know what your thought on Homosexual couples is. Dont say, well they can do whatever they want if it doesnt bother me...I want your honest opinion

Personally, I believe that homosexuality is unnatural and as a christian unethical. You cant reproduce, and who would want to be the child adopted by two fathers...just a thought

BubbaRay12

This is not a gay bashing thread, but I just wanted to know what your thought on Homosexual couples is. Dont say, well they can do whatever they want if it doesnt bother me...I want your honest opinion

Personally, I believe that homosexuality is unnatural and as a christian unethical. You cant reproduce, and who would want to be the child adopted by two fathers...just a thought

BubbaRay12

Also if I was young and an orphan and I had the option of being adopted by nobody or two people of the same sex you can be sure I would take being adopted rather than not. I'm honestly not sure I would care who adopted me so long as they aren't bad people.

[QUOTE="BubbaRay12"]

This is not a gay bashing thread, but I just wanted to know what your thought on Homosexual couples is. Dont say, well they can do whatever they want if it doesnt bother me...I want your honest opinion

Personally, I believe that homosexuality is unnatural and as a christian unethical. You cant reproduce, and who would want to be the child adopted by two fathers...just a thought

needled24-7

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="BubbaRay12"]

This is not a gay bashing thread, but I just wanted to know what your thought on Homosexual couples is. Dont say, well they can do whatever they want if it doesnt bother me...I want your honest opinion

Personally, I believe that homosexuality is unnatural and as a christian unethical. You cant reproduce, and who would want to be the child adopted by two fathers...just a thought

Penguinchow

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

... or maybe I just see the best in people.

Nkemjo

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

i dont mind it but really camp people annoy me

Again I'd say that I think that only the actual actions are spoken about in the Bible. There are a lot of predispositions that aren't choices. Acting on said predisposition is, however. I don't believe it's wrong to find yourself attracted to the same sex. I believe that giving into that temptation is wrong. Just clearing that up.

Penguinchow

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I love how this turned into another religious bashing thread. Ah, OT, you never cease to disappoint. Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]how the crap is it unethical? "the bible says it's wrong" is kind of a dumb reason. and whoever said they can't reproduce? that's completely wrong, unless they're sterile or something, which has nothing to do with homosexuality. as for who would want to be adopted by two fathers? i'm sure many kids that don't have any parents would be happy to have two fathers.

needled24-7

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

I'm pretty darn sure that he wasn't trying to say gay = broken semen :roll:

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

Penguinchow

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]how the crap is it unethical? "the bible says it's wrong" is kind of a dumb reason. and whoever said they can't reproduce? that's completely wrong, unless they're sterile or something, which has nothing to do with homosexuality. as for who would want to be adopted by two fathers? i'm sure many kids that don't have any parents would be happy to have two fathers.

needled24-7

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

Penguinchow

I'm pretty darn sure that he wasn't trying to say gay = broken semen :roll:

I hate it how he is allowed to write hateful things about gays but if I write a wall of text about my views on Christianity I will most likely get the banhammer...

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

spazzx625

I hate it how he is allowed to write hateful things about gays but if I write a wall of text about my views on Christianity I will most likely get the banhammer...

Daxo90

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

Penguinchow

I'm pretty darn sure that he wasn't trying to say gay = broken semen :roll:

[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

Two men can reproduce together? Really? :?

xaos

[QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

Yea, it's fine with me...just as long as they don't try to flaunt it in your face and be annoying.

Daxo90

I'm Bi-Sexual and I agree with this you don't see straight people do Straight Pride.

It's sin and its wrong, that is my opinion.racer8dan

And I feel really sorry for you ...

I hate it how he is allowed to write hateful things about gays but if I write a wall of text about my views on Christianity I will most likely get the banhammer...

Daxo90

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] Being gay doesn't mean they are sterile...spazzx625

[QUOTE="Daxo90"]

[QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

I'm Bi-Sexual and I agree with this you don't see straight people do Straight Pride.

[QUOTE="racer8dan"]

It's sin and its wrong, that is my opinion.racer8dan

And I feel really sorry for you ...

Because he is bisexual?

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] Again I'd say that I think that only the actual actions are spoken about in the Bible. There are a lot of predispositions that aren't choices. Acting on said predisposition is, however. I don't believe it's wrong to find yourself attracted to the same sex. I believe that giving into that temptation is wrong. Just clearing that up.

foxhound_fox