Thoughts on National Defense Authorization Act?

Some people are freaking out and some are saying no big deal. What do you think? Heres a link from Anon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso

This really brought out the Ron Paul supporters out into drumming up the slippery slope fallacy. Then again, Pauls supporters do this a lot.DroidPhysX

Im not a Ron Paul supporter at all, I just thought that this could be a bad thing giving the goverment this much power...dont you think they could/would abuse it in some ways?

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]This really brought out the Ron Paul supporters out into drumming up the slippery slope fallacy. Then again, Pauls supporters do this a lot.OfficerLeach_

Im not a Ron Paul supporter at all, I just thought that this could be a bad thing giving the goverment this much power...dont you think they could/would abuse it in some ways?

Even if this passed through congress, it wouldn't survive a veto or federal courts.

Not worried about the bill itself, more worred how its made it this far through the law making process.

It won't pass. Obama will never sign it into law. No sane president will.

As said before it's just slippary slow arguments being thrown out by Ron Paul supporters.

It won't pass. Obama will never sign it into law. No sane president will.

As said before it's just slippary slow arguments being thrown out by Ron Paul supporters.

Wasdie

Hopefully your right but Obama has already done some questionable things. I would think he would veto it though seeing how its so close to election time and its so controversial so lets hope your right.

It won't pass. Obama will never sign it into law. No sane president will.

As said before it's just slippary slow arguments being thrown out by Ron Paul supporters.

Wasdie

I bet it does pass. It gives a lot of power to government to detain anyone they want through the use of military power. Sure it says it wont effect American citizens, but why have such a bill then? I thought they could detain anyone who isnt a American citizen anyway?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]This really brought out the Ron Paul supporters out into drumming up the slippery slope fallacy. Then again, Pauls supporters do this a lot.DroidPhysX

Im not a Ron Paul supporter at all, I just thought that this could be a bad thing giving the goverment this much power...dont you think they could/would abuse it in some ways?

Even if this passed through congress, it wouldn't survive a veto or federal courts.

Not worried about the bill itself, more worred how its made it this far through the law making process.

Thats a good point but just like you said with being worried how its even made it this far...I mean this specific bill will more then likely not make it but we all know a couple revisions can be made to it and put up for vote again right? So the fact that it made it this far one time, whos to say it wont make it farther next time? I dont know im not to much into conspiracy and the NWO/Illuminati and all that but this does seem very odd to me that our senate would even pass something like this.

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It won't pass. Obama will never sign it into law. No sane president will.

As said before it's just slippary slow arguments being thrown out by Ron Paul supporters.

ShadowDeathX

The thing is going to slow down quite a bit as news of it gets out.

oh look generalizationsby ass hats, who only wish to marginalize people who they dont agree with.

oh look generalizationsby ass hats, who only wish to marginalize people who they dont agree with.

surrealnumber5

No problem.

Any thread in which I can generalize and marginalize people that I don't agree with is a successful thread for me.

And its only a generalization or marginalization if it clashes with your ideologies.

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oh look generalizationsby ass hats, who only wish to marginalize people who they dont agree with.

DroidPhysX

No problem.

Any thread in which I can generalize and marginalize people that I don't agree with is a successful thread for me.

And its only a generalization or marginalization if it clashes with your ideologies.

Doesn't bother me.

oh look generalizationsby ass hats, who only wish to marginalize people who they dont agree with.

surrealnumber5

Based on what I heard it is the beginning of the fourth Reich -Sun_Tzu-

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oh look generalizationsby ass hats, who only wish to marginalize people who they dont agree with.

surrealnumber5

No problem.

Any thread in which I can generalize and marginalize people that I don't agree with is a successful thread for me.

And its only a generalization or marginalization if it clashes with your ideologies.

"Oh noes, someone insulted Ron Paul and his supporters!"

"Wait a minute, im a Ron Paul supporter and what he said offends me. What an ass hat"

Why is this even coming up? The Act, I mean. Who thought this would be a good idea?BranKetra

Why is this even coming up? The Act, I mean. Who thought this would be a good idea?BranKetra

Didnt you know Obama was the Antichrist? :P but seriously I dont know thats a good point and I want to know why the Senate passed it and what their reasons for it were. So far all I can see is so they can do whatever they want and arrest/kill/detain whoever they want. I see no good from it for the American people.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Why is this even coming up? The Act, I mean. Who thought this would be a good idea?Engrish_Major

Isnt it unconstitutional? Probably be challenged on those grounds.