Thoughts on Passion of the Christ?

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

but that's why people went to see it. they didn't go for the story of jesus' crucifixion. they went for the gore.

lazerface216

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] Far from it, it's a great argument to make when people are protesting any form of cinema violence. "THIS MOVIE IS EVIL!" "Sorry, you said passion was okay, therefore you have no claim."NiteLights

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

but that's why people went to see it. they didn't go for the story of jesus' crucifixion. they went for the gore.

lazerface216

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

[QUOTE="NiteLights"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]I don't really get what you're trying to say...the movie has no overt gore..it's more brutal then anything else..ganon92

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

I didnt see it. I did how thought I heard someone die watching it

[QUOTE="ganon92"]

[QUOTE="NiteLights"] Yeah there wasn't any gory in it really, but it was brutal.

NiteLights

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

I didnt see it. I did how thought I heard someone die watching it

TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="NiteLights"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]I don't really get what you're trying to say...the movie has no overt gore..it's more brutal then anything else..ganon92

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

but that's why people went to see it. they didn't go for the story of jesus' crucifixion. they went for the gore.

lazerface216

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

[QUOTE="NiteLights"]

[QUOTE="ganon92"]

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

I could be exaggerating by saying 'chunks', but it all depends on what you think counts as 'gore'. Simply blood being shed can be seen as 'gore', and in the Passion, there was a lot of that.

[QUOTE="ganon92"]

[QUOTE="NiteLights"] Yeah there wasn't any gory in it really, but it was brutal.

Andrew_Xavier

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

Loved it, thought it was hilarious when Jesus was crucified. I loled a bunch. HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="NiteLights"] Oh sorry, I forgot about that bit.

ganon92

I could be exaggerating by saying 'chunks', but it all depends on what you think counts as 'gore'. Simply blood being shed can be seen as 'gore', and in the Passion, there was a lot of that.

[QUOTE="ganon92"]

[QUOTE="NiteLights"] Yeah there wasn't any gory in it really, but it was brutal.

Andrew_Xavier

The gore and brutality go hand in hand. I'm pretty sure in the part where Jesus is being whipped with the flagellum thing, chunks of his back are being ripped off. That's pretty gory, especially when it's prolonged and presented in detail.

Didn't really care for it, in fact I thought it was really bad and one of the most overrated movies I ever saw. I think it focused way too much on the suffering of Jesus rather than what he taught. When it comes to Jesus movies I prefer the Last Temptation. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] It's not overly gory at all...it is brutal though..and i saw it because of the Crucifixion..as did my family and most of the people i know..so please don't generalize..Xx_Hopeless_xX

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

i disagree, it would not have grossed half of what it made without all the torture porn. you think people would have gone to see it without the gore just because they're christians? if that were true, disney's prince of egypt would have been a huge success, but it wasn't.

i have seen the film btw, as far as a pure movie experience it was absolutely terrible.

Didn't really care for it, in fact I thought it was really bad and one of the most overrated movies I ever saw. I think it focused way too much on the suffering of Jesus rather than what he taught. When it comes to Jesus movies I prefer the Last Temptation. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

They didnt know any better really...

NiteLights

Didn't really care for it, in fact I thought it was really bad and one of the most overrated movies I ever saw. I think it focused way too much on the suffering of Jesus rather than what he taught. When it comes to Jesus movies I prefer the Last Temptation. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Didn't really care for it, in fact I thought it was really bad and one of the most overrated movies I ever saw. I think it focused way too much on the suffering of Jesus rather than what he taught. When it comes to Jesus movies I prefer the Last Temptation. Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

lazerface216

i disagree, it would not have grossed half of what it made without all the torture porn. you think people would have gone to see it without the gore just because they're christians? if that were true, disney's prince of egypt would have been a huge success, but it wasn't.

i have seen the film btw, as far as a pure movie experience it was absolutely terrible.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Loved it, thought it was hilarious when Jesus was crucified. I loled a bunch. NiteLights

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] It's not overly gory at all...it is brutal though..and i saw it because of the Crucifixion..as did my family and most of the people i know..so please don't generalize..twitchmonkey399

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

lol @ you getting all upset about it.

the blood and gore in that movie was a HUGE reason why it was the success it was.

[QUOTE="twitchmonkey399"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

lazerface216

lol @ you getting all upset about it.

the blood and gore in that movie was a HUGE reason why it was the success it was.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Didn't really care for it, in fact I thought it was really bad and one of the most overrated movies I ever saw. I think it focused way too much on the suffering of Jesus rather than what he taught. When it comes to Jesus movies I prefer the Last Temptation. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] It's not overly gory at all...it is brutal though..and i saw it because of the Crucifixion..as did my family and most of the people i know..so please don't generalize..twitchmonkey399

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Yes, i do believe so..may i ask if you have actually seen it?...There was not much gore if any at all to be spoken of..yes, it was brutal..but that's about it...no decapitations, eviscerations or anything of the like..and it still would have grossed that much because a majority of the United States is still Christian..Xx_Hopeless_xX

i disagree, it would not have grossed half of what it made without all the torture porn. you think people would have gone to see it without the gore just because they're christians? if that were true, disney's prince of egypt would have been a huge success, but it wasn't.

i have seen the film btw, as far as a pure movie experience it was absolutely terrible.

again, i disagree. it looks like a torture porn film to me...

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

lazerface216

i disagree, it would not have grossed half of what it made without all the torture porn. you think people would have gone to see it without the gore just because they're christians? if that were true, disney's prince of egypt would have been a huge success, but it wasn't.

i have seen the film btw, as far as a pure movie experience it was absolutely terrible.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i disagree, it would not have grossed half of what it made without all the torture porn. you think people would have gone to see it without the gore just because they're christians? if that were true, disney's prince of egypt would have been a huge success, but it wasn't.

i have seen the film btw, as far as a pure movie experience it was absolutely terrible.

lazerface216

again, i disagree. it looks like a torture porn film to me...

I would also like to know why you disagree..

It was definitely brutal, but it is my favorite of any movie so far that dramatizes the crucifixion. It needed to be brutal really.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i disagree, it would not have grossed half of what it made without all the torture porn. you think people would have gone to see it without the gore just because they're christians? if that were true, disney's prince of egypt would have been a huge success, but it wasn't.

i have seen the film btw, as far as a pure movie experience it was absolutely terrible.

lazerface216

again, i disagree. it looks like a torture porn film to me...

[QUOTE="twitchmonkey399"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

everyone i know saw it for the blood and gore. do you honestly believe it would have as hyped or been as big of a box office success as it was without all the gore? puh-lease :roll:.that's all people talked about was how gruesome it was.

lazerface216

lol @ you getting all upset about it.

the blood and gore in that movie was a HUGE reason why it was the success it was.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] It wasn't "torture porn"as you so condescendingly phrase it..movies like "Saw" or "House of a Thousand Corpses" could be considered torture porn...this movie was accurately portraying the intense and brutal suffering Jesus went through throughout the Passion...which is why i believe is why it grossed so much...for this accurate portrayal..whereas a light hearted unrealistically portrayed cartoon would not appeal to Christians en masse..again to reiterate my previous point..it accurately portrayed the events before the Crucifixion in a realistic and moving fashion..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

again, i disagree. it looks like a torture porn film to me...

I would also like to know why you disagree..

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] In what way?..Torture porn is generally fictional for one...Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] In what way?..Torture porn is generally fictional for one...Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] In what way?..Torture porn is generally fictional for one...Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] It was certainly torture porn, a guy is tortured throughout the entire film. The main focus of the film is a guy getting tortured to death is a far more brutal fashion than saw or house of 1000 corpses, and it didn't even have a plot/storyline like saw did. Passion is more closely related to Hostel and the like.Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] It was certainly torture porn, a guy is tortured throughout the entire film. The main focus of the film is a guy getting tortured to death is a far more brutal fashion than saw or house of 1000 corpses, and it didn't even have a plot/storyline like saw did. Passion is more closely related to Hostel and the like.Andrew_Xavier

.it was the accurate depiction of a realistic event in history..Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"].it was the accurate depiction of a realistic event in history..Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"].it was the accurate depiction of a realistic event in history..Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"].it was the accurate depiction of a realistic event in history..Andrew_Xavier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

Here's a nice accurate review:

http://www.homepagedaily.com/Pages/article1050-jesus-loves-torture-porn.aspx

"So, if it's a largely plotless, horrendously violent film that takes glee in the suffering of its protagonist you're after, look no further thanThe Passion Of The Christ. It'sthe winner of the 'torture porn' genre."

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] It wasn't "torture porn"as you so condescendingly phrase it..movies like "Saw" or "House of a Thousand Corpses" could be considered torture porn...this movie was accurately portraying the intense and brutal suffering Jesus went through throughout the Passion...which is why i believe is why it grossed so much...for this accurate portrayal..whereas a light hearted unrealistically portrayed cartoon would not appeal to Christians en masse..again to reiterate my previous point..it accurately portrayed the events before the Crucifixion in a realistic and moving fashion..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

again, i disagree. it looks like a torture porn film to me...

I would also like to know why you disagree..

a torture porn film is a movie that people watch just for the explicit scenes blood and gore and that's why i believe most people went to see the passion. where's the story? jesus gets arrested in a garden and then torture ensues for the next twelve hours...