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#1 killblade37
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So recently i have taken an intrest into trying something new and that would be to get a motorcycle. Ive always drove a car all my life ( and by that i mean im 19 and all i know right now is driving a car) But i thought to myself that a motorcycle would save me money on gas and it would be easier to get parking. I dont know much about bikes but one that looks pretty cool to me is the2012 ninja250r. I have never touched a motorcycle before but im planning on studying to get my permit in a few months. Are there any tips that people could give me? For the people that already has driven one before is it hard to learn how to ride one? I kind of figured that its like riding a bike basically but just without the pedeling haha.

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#2 Kurushio
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Buy a helmet and get your organ donor card! Starting out small is probably the best way but also realize that something like 90% of bike riders to crash or "lay down" their bikes usually within the first year of riding. You may want to get a used bike first but if you have the money then i guess new is nicer.
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#3 horgen  Moderator
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There are more to it than that which separates it from a normal bike.

It's easy to learn, but be careful. The one paying with blood is you. For braking you rely on the front wheel brake. Don't put your foot down on the ground unless you're standing still.
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TAKE ONE LULZ WIN! Be a boss
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Make sure to say your goodbyes to everyone you love before you leave.

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#7 branketra
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Never drove one, but they're a bit heavier than bicycles and they can go faster. My advice: Practice makes perfect.

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#9 Fightingfan
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Don't cut in front of me. I hate those idiots in their Japanese rockets zig zagging in front of me..., I'm in an SUV..., you wanna die?
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Don't cut in front of me. I hate those idiots in their Japanese rockets zig zagging in front of me..., I'm in an SUV..., you wanna die?Fightingfan
It's amazing how stupid most crotch rocket riders are on the rode. Especially when they're on the freeway where if they fall off they'll get run over about 100 times.

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#12 UCF_Knight
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Like someone else, become an organ donor. That way even if something horrible happens to you, you'll help out someone else. It's a win win situation.
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#13 Shadowchronicle
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Become an organ donor is probably the best choice.
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#14 MetallicaKings
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I've riden for like 6 years. First and foremost, take the MSF course. It's like $150, 2-4 day class. They teach you how to ride a motorcycle, and you actually take the test at the end of the class. If you pass, they give you a certificate that you just bring into the DMV and you grab your license. Ninja 250r is a solid starter bike. You can go and get a 600cc bike (a sport, not a supersport) like a Ninja 650r, and you should be ok, if you ride safe. Good luck and always wear gear!
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#15 killblade37
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LOL! i realize there are some dbag motorcycle people out there but damn you guys that confident im going to die?!? haha -_-

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#16 horgen  Moderator
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Gotta say it is fun one to drive one. :D
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#17 chilly-chill
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Just get the helmet. That's all you need.
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#18 IustitiaMaximus
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I would advise you against it. I know a horror story or two regarding motorcyclists. Such as the one who recently got his leg severed by semi near where I live.
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#19 Pirate700
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Just get the helmet. That's all you need.chilly-chill
Please don't give stupid, false advise like that...

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#20 horgen  Moderator
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LOL! i realize there are some dbag motorcycle people out there but damn you guys that confident im going to die?!? haha -_-

killblade37
You are lucky if your first crash isn't giving you trouble for the rest of your life. Thing is, being small and lighter by a few thousand pounds in traffic. People misjudge your speed. Thinking you're going slower than you really are.
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Watch out for potholes
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#22 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Don't cut in front of me. I hate those idiots in their Japanese rockets zig zagging in front of me..., I'm in an SUV..., you wanna die?Pirate700

It's amazing how stupid most crotch rocket riders are on the rode. Especially when they're on the freeway where if they fall off they'll get run over about 100 times.

I've notice too it's only the Japanese rocket users, I guess it's because when you're driving a 50k+ Harley you don't only watch out for your life, but your wallet :P
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#23 horgen  Moderator
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[QUOTE="chilly-chill"]Just get the helmet. That's all you need.Pirate700

Please don't give stupid, false advise like that...

You suggest a full suit too?

Personally I suggest helmet, something for your back, don't know what they are called in English again... It's a plate sort of. And gloves.
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#24 Pirate700
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LOL! i realize there are some dbag motorcycle people out there but damn you guys that confident im going to die?!? haha -_-

killblade37

It's not a matter if if, but WHEN you eventually crash and the smallest moving accidents on a bike easily leads to death or wishing you were dead.

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] I've notice too it's only the Japanese rocket users, I guess it's because when you're driving a 50k+ Harley you don't only watch out for your life, but your wallet :P

Or something as simple as not actually being able to do it with a Harley... :P
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#26 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="chilly-chill"]Just get the helmet. That's all you need.horgen123

Please don't give stupid, false advise like that...

You suggest a full suit too?

Personally I suggest helmet, something for your back, don't know what they are called in English again... It's a plate sort of. And gloves.

Other than a helmet, at least something tough to cover your skin. Jeans and a leather jacket at minimum. Something with spinal protection is a plus. It's amazing how many derps here in SoCal ride with flip flops, shorts and tshirt...

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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] I've notice too it's only the Japanese rocket users, I guess it's because when you're driving a 50k+ Harley you don't only watch out for your life, but your wallet :P

Or something as simple as not actually being able to do it with a Harley... :P

They're just too badass for the streets.
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Other than a helmet, at least something tough to cover your skin. Jeans and a leather jacket at minimum. Something with spinal protection is a plus. It's amazing how many derps here in SoCal ride with flip flops, shorts and tshirt...

Pirate700
Leather jeans in that case. You go through normal ones the moment you hit the ground. I would say having some spinal protection is rather vital. You're lucky you will land on your back and slide. [QUOTE="shadowchronicle"] They're just too badass for the streets.

You need a straight road for a harley. :P
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As others have said, become an organ donor. Stuff happens, just watch other drivers now while you are in a car, they don't pay attention most of the time.

Stay to the outer sides of the lanes, oil from cars can be slick. It also allows more reaction time.

As for the bike, start small and old. There's no need to get a new bike when you are not confident in you abilities. Laying down a $300 bike wont distress you as much as a $5000 bike.

Also, pick up a service and repair manual for your bike and get to know it well. An understanding of the mechanics involved will serve you well for years to come.

Taking a class also helps a lot. If you don't plan on taking one, plan on taking time to teach yourself in a safe environment. It can be done, just don't expect to feel comfortable at higher speeds for some time.

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#30 Fightingfan
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I don't even know how anyone feels safe driving em, I don't even feel safe driving a 4 cylinder.
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#31 chilly-chill
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[QUOTE="chilly-chill"]Just get the helmet. That's all you need.Pirate700

Please don't give stupid, false advise like that...

I was refering to this

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#32 branketra
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[QUOTE="killblade37"]

LOL! i realize there are some dbag motorcycle people out there but damn you guys that confident im going to die?!? haha -_-

Pirate700

It's not a matter if if, but WHEN you eventually crash and the smallest moving accidents on a bike easily leads to death or wishing you were dead.

Jeez. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
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#33 GoodFight21
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I have a bike. Its dangerous and uncomefortable, but on the up side its fun as hell, and cheap too. Not very fun in the rain though.
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#34 Pirate700
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I don't even know how anyone feels safe driving em, I don't even feel safe driving a 4 cylinder.Fightingfan
It's not about feeling safe. That's the very thing many bikers get off on.

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#35 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I don't even know how anyone feels safe driving em, I don't even feel safe driving a 4 cylinder.Pirate700

It's not about feeling safe. That's the very thing many bikers get off on.

I always thought it was about great gas mileage, and trying to look badass.
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#36 killblade37
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This is actually great advice its really making me think about this whole motorcyle thing a bit more...

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#37 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="killblade37"]

LOL! i realize there are some dbag motorcycle people out there but damn you guys that confident im going to die?!? haha -_-

BranKetra

It's not a matter if if, but WHEN you eventually crash and the smallest moving accidents on a bike easily leads to death or wishing you were dead.

Jeez. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

That's one of the oldest rules in the biker book. You WILL get in an accident. The medical and insurance industries don't refer to bike riders as rolling organ donors for no reason.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I don't even know how anyone feels safe driving em, I don't even feel safe driving a 4 cylinder.Fightingfan

It's not about feeling safe. That's the very thing many bikers get off on.

I always thought it was about great gas mileage, and trying to look badass.

That's part of it. But most like the free feeling that a bike gives. It's just you balanced over the open road at high speeds.

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2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Review

It's a review from Scotland, but it gives you a sense of the bike.

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[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Jeez. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Sadly that is the truth. Those who have used a bike for some years are usually the better drivers. They have to be if they want to avoid crashes, thanks to everyone in their SUV not giving a second thought about what happens if they run someone down.

It's not about feeling safe. That's the very thing many bikers get off on.

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For me it is the feeling of being free. Wish I had passed the damn test last year. One mistake I did... One mistake that would have costed me many broken bones if not for the other driver slowing down.
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I've been riding for about 12 years. First off, As you can see from your replies there are a lot of people that love preaching to riders and will give their opinions on motorcycles despite the fact that they have never even sat on one let alone ride one. When you are on the road, remember this mentality, remember the disregard others have for you and ride accordingly. That is not to say that you drive like a lunatic, you ride defensively and with purpose. No one is looking out for you out there except for you. That being said a 250 is probably the most responsible choice a new rider can make. I admittingly went with a 600 Cbr as my first bike but a 250 is more than enough bike for most, people just don't realize the raw power a sportbike has even a that engine size. It will be plenty fast and easier to "throw around". So you'll have lots of fun on it for sure. Disregard anyone who says you need a 1000 or a liter bike and never ask them for any advice. So far the best advice here was to take the msf course. Look up one in your area and take it despite the costs. Not only will they teach you to ride, most give the mc license test at the end and give the discount for defensive driving Wear your gear at all times, proper helmet gloves and mc jacket is a bare minimum, none of these assinie helmets with the mohawks or a teeshirt with a back protector. Keep your bike well maintained and know how to do your own basic maintenance. Treat your bike with the respect it deserves, dont stunt or wheelie and abuse the hell out of it.
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]It's not a matter if if, but WHEN you eventually crash and the smallest moving accidents on a bike easily leads to death or wishing you were dead.

Pirate700

Jeez. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

That's one of the oldest rules in the biker book. You WILL get in an accident. The medical and insurance industries don't refer to bike riders as rolling organ donors for no reason.

Every time it rains an angel gets a kidney, lung, and a liver.

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I don't even know how anyone feels safe driving em, I don't even feel safe driving a 4 cylinder.Pirate700

It's not about feeling safe. That's the very thing many bikers get off on.

You're probably right about that, but I've just always wanted to ride one because it looks fun. Despite how bad the statistics make it look.
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#44 Fightingfan
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2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Review

It's a review from Scotland, but it gives you a sense of the bike.

Namgis

Problem with that is, in America we don't drive those small SUV/utility trucks the size of Mini coopers, we drive these.

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#45 DaBrainz
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My advice is to take the MSF beginner riding course. They teach you how to ride from scratch on their bikes, so you don't have to worry about dropping it. I think it costs $200-$300 but most states subsidize that. For example if you take it Michigan its only $20. The ninja 250 is a well reviewed bike and is cheap in price. If you are into the standard/sport bike like that I would recommend instead that you look for something a little bigger like a ninja 500 or 650 unless you are only doing very short commutes. Get a used one off of craigslist for the same price as a new 250.
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#46 Namgis
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[QUOTE="Namgis"]

2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Review

It's a review from Scotland, but it gives you a sense of the bike.

Fightingfan

Problem with that is, in America we don't drive those small SUV/utility trucks the size of Mini coopers, we drive these.

Your point? The roads are wider in the US as well. The point of the link was to give him a sense of how the bike handled and to see what it looks like through the eyes of the rider.

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#47 Jackc8
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A 250 is pretty small for street use. A 450 would be perfect to start out on. Plenty of power but not nearly as heavy as the larger bikes.

Motorcycles aren't much different than riding a bike, just heavier but it doesn't take long to get used to.

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#48 Huffanddoback
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A 250 is pretty small for street use. A 450 would be perfect to start out on. Plenty of power but not nearly as heavy as the larger bikes.

Motorcycles aren't much different than riding a bike, just heavier but it doesn't take long to get used to.

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Motorcycles are worlds apart from a bicycle. Hell I don't even like the idea that riding a scooter is the same!
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#49 Riverwolf007
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wow, look at all the anti bike ladies out in force.

anyway screw them they have no idea what they are talking about. new riders can effect the safety of their bike experience in a ton of ways to make sure they keep the shiny side upright.

1st off DO NOT get some starter on road bike that you want because it looks cool.

start off with a used on/off road 250cc (or maybe 400cc) bike and put in a ton of time goofing about in fields and on dirt roads and on trails.

buy a full set of motocross equipment, full face helmet, gloves and boots and an enduro type jacket.

have fun learning to ride, ride through creeks and slippery grass and mud and up and down hills and just generally build skills that involve learning control in less than ideal conditions.

learn to do stupid low speed things like popping wheelies and doing doughnuts and sliding the back end out on purpose.

in doing all this crap you are going to lay the bike down it is inevitable but if you are staying low speed and have your safety equipment on it will not be any big deal.

stay off the roads as much as you can while you are in the learning stage, you basically only want to be on road long enough to get to the trails or places where you are learning to ride.

my off road experiences saved my ass more times than i can remember.

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#50 rawsavon
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Do you know how to drive a stick/manual transmission? If not, learn that on a car...that will help Also, not a fan of crotch rockets (how you sit). I like and have a cruiser. The license test was not hard in Texas. But it did require a 2 day course (16 hours)