To atheists who are sure that...

The concept must have begun somewhere.Like when evolution gave us a brain?

Raiden_Fan

Sounds like you just want some hope for an afterlife. All you are doing is hoping there is something more out there, it makes perfect sense and is very logical to think there is no god.

I mean just think how easy it is for an intelligent species to simply wonder how we were created and jump to such a far off conclusion that we must have been made by some super being that made everything instead of just chance because we are so little to everything else in comparison. But really to me that sounds absolutely ridiculous. Possible, but far fetched. That is really all there is too it, people jump to that conclusion because they don't want to believe that we are nothing compared to everything else out there. Just a spec in the universe.

Religion is a Multi-Billion dollar tax free business. Nothing more, nothing less.

So all you guys believe in the theory that an atom created so much energy that it exploded into the universe? Then who created the atom and who created that energy?

Gamer-Geek

i think god only exist for those who need a god, some people feel safer knowing there is a heaven or whatever or that if stuff go wrong , well it was how god planned it anyway i dont believe and i dont need a god to be a good person, atleast if i do something wrong i have to cope with it myself and not just ask god for forgiveness or go to confession and then its allright...metalkitten

Good way of thinking. One of the main reasons I've never been one to put much stock in religion was due to the alliviation of responsibility for ones own actions. With most religions, when something goes wrong it was gods will. If things go right, it's gods will. You neither have to take responsibility for your own mistakes (and thus hopefully learn from them.) Nor are you able to take credit for your own successes.

From a sociological standpoint, it's a horrible way to view things. It stunts social advancement and prevents us from learning not just from our own mistakes, but histories mistakes as well.

Why does he care? Because he doesn't want people to go to hell? I sure don't want anyone to go.

it's not about what i would prefer,actually i'd rather igod to be existed but my logic says it doesn't.

There is no God.

I mean, if a God not existing affects my future, because it makes everything pointless.

Raiden_Fan

If there really was an omnipotent, kind god, do you think he/she/it would rather accept those who blindly follow a book in order to try and ensure their way into paradise, or those who lived free of outside control and influence and lived life how they wanted? Honestly, if I was god, I would reject all religious people from heaven.

In my opinion, "god" is just a way to describe the unknown. The concept has existed since humans first walked the planet. Some cavemen wondered where life came from, and assumed that all animals and plants were spirits. Later on in civilization, humans wondered were fire came from, and assumed it was from a god. The Ancient Greeks wondered why there were emotions, weather, death, etc., and assumed that there were magical beings on the top of a high mountain that no one could scale. Today people believe in god because they don't know how animals or the world formed. Today, do we wonder how we make fire? Do we know how weather forms? We look back on ancient civilizations wondering how they could believe that gods did these things, yet we do the same things. Instead of believing that there are gods on Mt. Olympus, we believe there is a god in the sky. The concept has stayed the same. A magical being that we will never be able to reach or find evidence of in our lifetimes that can account for all the phenomena that we don't understand.

We know the ancient civilizations were wrong. What makes Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc., right?

i went into this thread assuming it was about knowing- , since it says "to atheists who are sure that god dosent exist"

but everyone answers with beliefs, and it seems like even the TC dosent get it

How old are you? and the god that mankind manufactured is conceited selfish and small. The universe answer no prayers and cares about no one, it only seeks a state of minum energy. And it will do so without us.

which god are we talkin about here?

lol Pascal's Wagerscorch-62

it's a popular one lately...

You've jumped to the conclusion that something does exist, at worst that makes the ideals even, at worst it makes their thoughts much more logical than yours.

If you have faith, thinking about God existense is pointless. If you have faith, even if God doesn't exist for a fact, you should still have faith in God.magicalclick

i don't get why faith is a good thing... It's believing something for no good reason.

To be honest I don't believe in Christianity but I believe there's some sort of after life since Einstein proved energy never stops flowing. But these threads are pointless, it's like a man standing behind a thin wall talking to another man he can't see standing behind the thin wall. And the one man says I'm 6'11 and the other says hah 6'11 I'm 7'3 if they stay behind that wall they'll never know the truth of how tall the other man is.

seriousley go preach your religion to some muslims or hindus people who are more likely to except your views dont try and force it on us

And as some1 said already this comes up like every 2 days seriousley why cant some people just accept that some people beleive and some dont

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."- Thomas Jefferson

Essentially my philosophy.

which god are we talkin about here?

Phaze-Two

that sir is win

If you have faith, thinking about God existense is pointless. If you have faith, even if God doesn't exist for a fact, you should still have faith in God.magicalclick

Why should you have faith in something that doesn't exist for a fact?

I don't care to begin with because when one dies they're dead. Why people put so much thought into this subject puzzles me, but then, whatever. Like I said to some door to door preachers once, when you have exact photographic and visual evidence of a higher being existing and it isn't a book or a painting I'll bite.

But until then, I tell them to please shut up.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Why should you have faith in something that doesn't exist for a fact?

magicalclick

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]If you have faith, thinking about God existense is pointless. If you have faith, even if God doesn't exist for a fact, you should still have faith in God.magicalclick

Why should you have faith in something that doesn't exist for a fact?

Add: To be clear. There is no why. You either have faith or you don't. There is no why.

Coherence please.

God doesn't exist.What makes you so sure that there isn't one?No evidence?That's okay, but what if the evidence is absent in our solar system?Illogical?Nothingness is even less logical than a divine being.It seems to me that some of you are scared if God actually exists.You jump to the conclusion that God does not exist, because there's no evidence.Now, I don't claim I know everything, but have you scanned the whole universe, every galaxy, every solar system and every planet in it.I don't think so.Why not be on the safe side?You prefer nothingness over heaven?

Raiden_Fan

Well, what makes you so sure that there IS a god? And no, I don't want you to answer the question because I don't really care what you think. Just think about it ;)

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"] Because you have faith.

Add: To be clear. There is no why. You either have faith or you don't. There is no why.

magicalclick

Coherence please.

When you have faith, you do. And nothing else should matters.

But why should you have faith in something if that something in fact does not exist?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

When you have faith, you do. And nothing else should matters.

magicalclick

But why should you have faith in something if that something in fact does not exist?

No reason at all. I just do have faith. Simple as that. You won't get the answer you are looking for because there is no answer.

God doesn't exist.What makes you so sure that there isn't one?No evidence?That's okay, but what if the evidence is absent in our solar system?Illogical?Nothingness is even less logical than a divine being.It seems to me that some of you are scared if God actually exists.You jump to the conclusion that God does not exist, because there's no evidence.Now, I don't claim I know everything, but have you scanned the whole universe, every galaxy, every solar system and every planet in it.I don't think so.Why not be on the safe side?You prefer nothingness over heaven?

Raiden_Fan

This is what religion is all about, living like a dead man

Also, I am an atheist because I use logic..

A topic can't get more opinion based then this...

A topic can't get more opinion based then this...

sherman-tank1

Religion IS opinion. There's no factual evidence to back it up and likely never will be.

I'm cutting it short there before zealots start bombarding me.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

A topic can't get more opinion based then this...

Desulated

Religion IS opinion. There's no factual evidence to back it up and likely never will be.

I'm cutting it short there before zealots start bombarding me.

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The dead horse

Atheists for the most part don't say God doesn't exist. What they do say is there is no evidence for God. Why would you put your faith in something that there is no evidence for, as you outline in your question?