Today's school system is pointless!

Have you ever asked yourself why you wake up so early in the morning to frantically get to school early, only to sit in a desk for hours listening to someone on some pointless subject? So there exists some complex methods of solving some Chemistry of Physics equation, or some memorizing of facts for a History Test. Sure it's great if you can solve it, but what's the point? It does very little for us! People go to work for 8-14 hours to improve the world, and we go to school for 6-8 hours sitting! I for one think it's pointless to have to sit in a classroom when you understand the material, but you still have to SIT there listening for an hour when you could easily get it over with in less than 10-15 minutes if you were being taught individually.

Imagine if health and physical activity were more stressed in school. You could have less people overweight, build fit adults, keep them healthy, etc. Sitting for 6 hours is very unhealthy. Sure the intellectual part is important, but health is more important than everything. I can imagine a system with more emphasis on English and Math skills. Why does the SAT entrance exam for college only focus on these two? It's because they're more important! We should be learning how to read/comprehend better and think logically instead of memorizing facts. If you want to major in something like Chemistry, you can just do it in college.

So to conclude, do you think that a school system that focuses a lot on building fit people and focusing more on the basic skills you need in life would be better than today's system?

Err, Isn't Physical Education required up to grade 10 so that you can graduate, It is where I live. Oh and I don't mind the things we learn, If we learned just basic skills, we'd be out of school in Grade 7 which would not be good. The deeper we go into subjects the more it prepares you for College/University. I don't want to only learn basic skills then end up going to University not knowing half the stuff we should've learned.

This utopian school system you propose would cost millions to implement.

And you don't 'sit' for 6 hours in school, you supposed to be 'learning' in school. You know, so you're not a complete scumbag with no skills when you graduate.

Err, Isn't Physical Education required up to grade 10 so that you can graduate, It is where I live. Oh and I don't mind the things we learn, If we learned just basic skills, we'd be out of school in Grade 7 which would not be good. The deeper we go into subjects the more it prepares you for College/University. I don't want to only learn basic skills then end up going to University not knowing half the stuff we should've learned.

AnotherKill

Err, Isn't Physical Education required up to grade 10 so that you can graduate, It is where I live.

AnotherKill

Here, you need to take it twice in high school.

This utopian school system you propose would cost millions to implement.

And you don't 'sit' for 6 hours in school, you supposed to be 'learning' in school. You know, so you're not a complete scumbag with no skills when you graduate.

FragStains

Err, Isn't Physical Education required up to grade 10 so that you can graduate, It is where I live. Oh and I don't mind the things we learn, If we learned just basic skills, we'd be out of school in Grade 7 which would not be good. The deeper we go into subjects the more it prepares you for College/University. I don't want to only learn basic skills then end up going to University not knowing half the stuff we should've learned.

AnotherKill

where I went there were courses you could take instead of PE.

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This utopian school system you propose would cost millions to implement.

And you don't 'sit' for 6 hours in school, you supposed to be 'learning' in school. You know, so you're not a complete scumbag with no skills when you graduate.

RevernedICE

I'd hate to go to your school if you didn't learn anything you will use in the rest of your life. I learned a lot of things...not specific for my career, but general knowledge.

No. Being able to run doesn't mean you can perform a job. School is supposed to educate you to succeed in society. LJS9502_basic

all the stress about your education is based on the desire to go to school so you can learn things you don't need and get graded and judged not based on how smart you are but by how well you obide to a teacher's demands so you may go to a college that will have you in debt for years so that you can work a job that you hate to buy crap you don't need. that's just the way it is.RevernedICE

come on, it must be doing something right for you to be able to write such an insightful and succinct account.

I think the fact that you are forced to learn somthing you will never need or want to know in order graduate is really stupid. We should be able to learn about what we want, and what we will need for our future proffesions. EVOLV3

the point of it is to give you the most potential possible. true, you wouldn't need to know history if you were an architect, but you probably wouldn't need math if you were an archaeologist, and such and so forth.

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This utopian school system you propose would cost millions to implement.

And you don't 'sit' for 6 hours in school, you supposed to be 'learning' in school. You know, so you're not a complete scumbag with no skills when you graduate.

FragStains

I'd hate to go to your school if you didn't learn anything you will use in the rest of your life. I learned a lot of things...not specific for my career, but general knowledge.

I think the fact that you are forced to learn somthing you will never need or want to know in order graduate is really stupid. We should be able to learn about what we want, and what we will need for our future proffesions. EVOLV3

yeah but you'd be a boring person to talk. This will be you, "ah I don't understand your analogy of Napolean complex because I only like trains, Steam trains to be precise, from the late victorian era, what's you're opinion on the recommended gradient for the Flying Scotsman?"

[QUOTE="RevernedICE"]all the stress about your education is based on the desire to go to school so you can learn things you don't need and get graded and judged not based on how smart you are but by how well you obide to a teacher's demands so you may go to a college that will have you in debt for years so that you can work a job that you hate to buy crap you don't need. that's just the way it is.jasperrussell

come on, it must be doing something right for you to be able to write such an insightful and succinct account.

I think the fact that you are forced to learn somthing you will never need or want to know in order graduate is really stupid. We should be able to learn about what we want, and what we will need for our future proffesions. EVOLV3

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that what you think your future profession is will differ from what it really turns out to be.

That's why homeschooling or O.F.L. are so great. But I do think subjects like algebra and biology are bull ****. It seems all made up for no reason. Give me one time in my life when I need to know the distributive property of 513b-54a+ab other than being a mathmetition?tunasandwich395

might be something in architecture. though it's based on Geometry already, so yeah.

That's why homeschooling or O.F.L. are so great. But I do think subjects like algebra and biology are bull ****. It seems all made up for no reason. Give me one time in my life when I need to know the distributive property of 513b-54a+ab other than being a mathmetition?tunasandwich395

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Err, Isn't Physical Education required up to grade 10 so that you can graduate, It is where I live.

rockguy92

Here, you need to take it twice in high school.

At my high school you need 1.5 PE credits. That could be 1 yr of PE and half a year of Book PE. But yeah, school is kinda pointless if you don't learn anything. I learn most from physics.. but it's more like interesting stuff rather then equations.

That's why homeschooling or O.F.L. are so great. But I do think subjects like algebra and biology are bull ****. It seems all made up for no reason. Give me one time in my life when I need to know the distributive property of 513b-54a+ab other than being a mathmetition?tunasandwich395

The modern world as you know it is built upon mathemetics. Everything from architecture to computer programming employs it. You would be nowhere without it. Just because you're too lazy to learn, or you don't have capable teachers, or both, doesn't mean its not important.

Who would choose classes of some boring subject over being fit and healthy for the rest of your life?RyuHayabusaX

white collar workers?

I didn't want to make my post too long, but by physical education, I don't mean just a simple class. I can imagine a generation that is fit, strong, and noticeably different from the rest of the previous generations because the system actually took effort to improve them. There is so much potential, and our potential to become something much bigger than what we are is being wasted in some confined space of brick and cement. Who would choose classes of some boring subject over being fit and healthy for the rest of your life?RyuHayabusaX

You can be fit and healthy on your own. As for subjects...they are necessary and I find learning interesting.:|

I would never go to a school that stresses physical activity.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="tunasandwich395"]That's why homeschooling or O.F.L. are so great. But I do think subjects like algebra and biology are bull ****. It seems all made up for no reason. Give me one time in my life when I need to know the distributive property of 513b-54a+ab other than being a mathmetition?eo12601

The modern world as you know it is built upon mathemetics. Everything from architecture to computer programming employs it. You would be nowhere without it. Just because you're too lazy to learn, or you don't have capable teachers, or both, doesn't mean its not important.

I didn't want to make my post too long, but by physical education, I don't mean just a simple class. I can imagine a generation that is fit, strong, and noticeably different from the rest of the previous generations because the system actually took effort to improve them. There is so much potential, and our potential to become something much bigger than what we are is being wasted in some confined space of brick and cement. Who would choose classes of some boring subject over being fit and healthy for the rest of your life?RyuHayabusaX

[QUOTE="tunasandwich395"]That's why homeschooling or O.F.L. are so great. But I do think subjects like algebra and biology are bull ****. It seems all made up for no reason. Give me one time in my life when I need to know the distributive property of 513b-54a+ab other than being a mathmetition?Hewkii

might be something in architecture. though it's based on Geometry already, so yeah.

It's abstract thought, it's important. The more you use your brain the smarter you become. I left school a long time ago, I'm definitely getting dumber.

Interestingly, although I barely remember how to do long division or work out percentages, spelling is something that seems to get better, like you mathmetition is spelled mathematician.

edit: I still managed to miss out a word in that last sentence - doh!

My government teacher doesn't really teach us anything. Today, we watched Commander in Chief. We're also working on crossword puzzles. :lol:ayanami_rei

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]I would never go to a school that stresses physical activity.RyuHayabusaX

I think the fact that you are forced to learn somthing you will never need or want to know in order graduate is really stupid. We should be able to learn about what we want, and what we will need for our future proffesions. EVOLV3

...because every high school student knows exactly what he or she wants to do with his or her work life. :|

It never ceases to amaze me that all these 'intelligent' people who whine about learning irrelevant knowledge fail to realize that it isn't the knowledge itself that is important, but rather the acquisition of skills, including such 'useless' and 'obscure' skills (that you'd never need, apparently) like time management, organization, logical thinking, creativity, work ethic, and memorization. As much as people would like to think these skills will develop themselves if a person is left to his or her own devices, for most people that just isn't going to happen - especially with respect to time management and work ethic. People tend to be lazy, even when they're intelligent. If you're lazy but intelligent, you're still useless to society.

I do agree that much smaller classes that are better tailored to different learning styles and aptitudes is necessary, though. And I certainly agree that students should have more leeway in deciding what courses they will pursue late in high school, though obviously certain subjects need to stay mandatory. But despite its shortcomings, school is why our society thrives, and even the material that is not relevant to your eventual career will assist you in other ways, even if only to instill in you the discipline to pay attention to material that bores you and do the best job you can despite your unpleasant feelings towards it. Anyone who's actually working knows that the ability to strive to do your best even when you don't feel like it is vital to your success and livelihood in the real world.

And as for physical fitness, I have no problem with required physical education courses, or even a brief daily calisthenics program. In the end, though, kids get fat because they eat poorly and don't avail themselves of exercise in their spare time, not because school doesn't stress physical fitness. Something as simple as walking to and from school each day can make a big difference to a kid's fitness level, but most won't even do that. My school was three kilometers away and I did it, so there's no excuses there unless you live in the country or something.

This utopian school system you propose would cost millions to implement.

And you don't 'sit' for 6 hours in school, you supposed to be 'learning' in school. You know, so you're not a complete scumbag with no skills when you graduate.

FragStains

Do you coach wrestling at OPRF by any chance? :P

Seriously, you sound just like my coach.

3 out of my 6 hours are centered on music. So no, its not ALL a waste.

Jazz band, symphonic band, and music theory make up for the waste time that is the rest of the day.