Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

I know alot of Anti-Pseudo-Intellectual people will deny it, but Tool's lyrics speak from the soul. They are not pseudo anything, in fact the people saying this probably listen to Poker Face.

Anyway, I'm going to list each Tool song & their meaning, so people can start believing in their music.

Prison Sex: Child Abuse

4 Degrees: Abortion

Hooker with a Penis - Selling Out

Schism: Tower of Babel

The Pot: Justice System

Vicarious: Media

Rosetta Stoned: DMT trip

Should I keep going? Once you know the meaning of the songs, you will appreciate them more.

Who?

Never cared for the meaning of songs, all that matters is how they sound. And Tool happens to sound good.Inconsistancy

Yup I agree with this. Love Tool's sound and love wathcing there videos, its like an art form.

I dont mind Tool...but no.

listen to pink floyd

I'm assuming, to make such a big statement, you have listened to all the bands, (and I mean all of them) from the 20th and 21th Century, right?luisen123

yes

deep lyrics =/= most influential

I'm assuming, to make such a big statement, you have listened to all the bands, (and I mean all of them) from the 20th and 21th Century, right?luisen123

I would say Little Richard or The Velvet Underground as the most influential artists of the 20th century...
As for the 21st century? To early to tell..

]You don't understand. There the first band to talk about "stuff". Thats right. The real "stuff".Wilfred_Owen

deep lyrics =/= most influential

punkpunker

^This.

Just no TC, Tool are not the most influential band, in fact they're pretty overated. They're so many more bands with deeper lyrics than Tool (ie Pink Floyd and this is coming from someone who doesn't enjoy Pink Floyd much).

[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]]You don't understand. There the first band to talk about "stuff". Thats right. The real "stuff".luisen123

Also, notice how Tool backwards is Loot. Not only deep meanings, hidden meanings man! So many meanings!battlefront23

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Also, notice how Tool backwards is Loot. Not only deep meanings, hidden meanings man! So many meanings!luisen123

I agree, they are a very influential band who make great music.

And though not all the lyrics of all their songs are meaningful, they're almost always deep. Maynard is a poet whos music makes you think.

And their music doesn't sound like typical metal. It's amazingly original. So beautiful, dark and mysterious

Here's another one you didn't list:

Ticks and Leeches: Record companys who steal all of their bands money. Particularly Tools old Label "Zoo"

Or at least I've been lead to believe.

I agree, they are a very influential band who make great music.

And though not all the lyrics of all their songs are meaningful, they're almost always deep. Maynard is a poet whos music makes you think.

And their music doesn't sound like typical metal. It's amazingly original. So beautiful, dark and mysterious

Here's another one you didn't list:

Ticks and Leeches: Record companys who steal all of their bands money. Particularly Tools old Label "Zoo"

Or at least I've been lead to believe.

DmadFearmonger

They aren't metal anyway?

Most influential? How do you figure? I haven't even heard one song from Tool.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

I agree, they are a very influential band who make great music.

And though not all the lyrics of all their songs are meaningful, they're almost always deep. Maynard is a poet whos music makes you think.

And their music doesn't sound like typical metal. It's amazingly original. So beautiful, dark and mysterious

Here's another one you didn't list:

Ticks and Leeches: Record companys who steal all of their bands money. Particularly Tools old Label "Zoo"

Or at least I've been lead to believe.

Iceozo

They aren't metal anyway?

[QUOTE="Iceozo"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

I agree, they are a very influential band who make great music.

And though not all the lyrics of all their songs are meaningful, they're almost always deep. Maynard is a poet whos music makes you think.

And their music doesn't sound like typical metal. It's amazingly original. So beautiful, dark and mysterious

Here's another one you didn't list:

Ticks and Leeches: Record companys who steal all of their bands money. Particularly Tools old Label "Zoo"

Or at least I've been lead to believe.

DmadFearmonger

They aren't metal anyway?

correct

Most influential? How do you figure? I haven't even heard one song from Tool.

BMD004

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="Iceozo"]

They aren't metal anyway?

CaptainBeer

correct

[QUOTE="Iceozo"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

I agree, they are a very influential band who make great music.

And though not all the lyrics of all their songs are meaningful, they're almost always deep. Maynard is a poet whos music makes you think.

And their music doesn't sound like typical metal. It's amazingly original. So beautiful, dark and mysterious

Here's another one you didn't list:

Ticks and Leeches: Record companys who steal all of their bands money. Particularly Tools old Label "Zoo"

Or at least I've been lead to believe.

DmadFearmonger

They aren't metal anyway?

They're not on the Archives.

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

You know CaptainBeer I've seen some of your threads. I'm either convinced you're the worst troll I've ever seen or a total idiot. Not that there's a difference between those two though.

CaptainBeer

The only troll here is you mate

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

You know CaptainBeer I've seen some of your threads. I'm either convinced you're the worst troll I've ever seen or a total idiot. Not that there's a difference between those two though.

volchcha

The only troll here is you mate

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

You forgot Rush

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="Iceozo"]

They aren't metal anyway?

Iceozo

They're not on the Archives.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

You know CaptainBeer I've seen some of your threads. I'm either convinced you're the worst troll I've ever seen or a total idiot. Not that there's a difference between those two though.

volchcha

The only troll here is you mate

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

The only troll here is you mate

CaptainBeer

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

It's irellevant anyway because
A. Most of those bands aren't as influential as the ones who they influenced.

B. They're all more influential than Tool.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

volchcha

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

It's irellevant anyway because
A. Most of those bands aren't as influential as the ones who they influenced.

B. They're all more influential than Tool.

disagree, the fact that Tool is so influential makes them in a category by themselves.

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

The only troll here is you mate

CaptainBeer

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

And Tool was never influenced by anyone?

What a ridiculous argument..

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

CaptainBeer

It's irellevant anyway because
A. Most of those bands aren't as influential as the ones who they influenced.

B. They're all more influential than Tool.

disagree, the fact that Tool is so influential makes them in a category by themselves.

And this is where your thread falls apart. Better luck next time.

CaptainBeer. At first I agreed with you. But now you've just gone wrong.

Sorry man.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="volchcha"]

>Tool is the most influential band of the 20th & 21st Century

You might have gotten away with just 21st century because it just began and it's harder to measure influence. But let's count the bands off the top of my head in the 20th century who are more influential than Tool shall we?

The Beach Boys, The Beatles, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Metallica, Aphex Twin, Nas, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead.
Refute all of these.

imaps3fanboy

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

And Tool was never influenced by anyone?

What a ridiculous argument..

Tool was influenced by many contributors to society, including Bill Hicks, Karl Marx, & Other sociologists & pychologists. He even mentions Hoffman, his mother, and real life experiences. They even go back to the BC's to modern times and back. And the band also thinks for themselves, something rare.

He talks about Ron Hubbard and actual people, it's not some bubblegum music.

disagree, the fact that Tool is so influential makes them in a category by themselves.

CaptainBeer

Ok now your getting a bit ridiculous.

Their songs have deep meanings to them - Yes. That does not mean they are an influential band. I see nothing in today's society that was directly influenced by Tool.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

Black Sabbath was influenced by Screaming Lord Sutch. Metallica was influenced by Quiet Riot. Aphex Twin was influenced by Throbbing Gristle, Radiohead was influenced by The Hollies, King Crimson was influenced by Jethro Tull, The Beatles were influenced by The Tornados, The Beach Boys were influenced by earlier duwop, & Neutral Milk Hotel was influenced by The Velvet Underground.

Shall I continue?

CaptainBeer

And Tool was never influenced by anyone?

What a ridiculous argument..

Tool was influenced by many contributors to society, including Bill Hicks, Karl Marx, & Other sociologists & pychologists. He even mentions Hoffman, his mother, and real life experiences. They even go back to the BC's to modern times and back. And the band also thinks for themselves, something rare.

He talks about Ron Hubbard and actual people, it's not some bubblegum music.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

And Tool was never influenced by anyone?

What a ridiculous argument..

imaps3fanboy

Tool was influenced by many contributors to society, including Bill Hicks, Karl Marx, & Other sociologists & pychologists. He even mentions Hoffman, his mother, and real life experiences. They even go back to the BC's to modern times and back. And the band also thinks for themselves, something rare.

He talks about Ron Hubbard and actual people, it's not some bubblegum music.

If you knew who these people were, then you wouldn't be so incoherent.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

Tool was influenced by many contributors to society, including Bill Hicks, Karl Marx, & Other sociologists & pychologists. He even mentions Hoffman, his mother, and real life experiences. They even go back to the BC's to modern times and back. And the band also thinks for themselves, something rare.

He talks about Ron Hubbard and actual people, it's not some bubblegum music.

CaptainBeer

If you knew who these people were, then you wouldn't be so incoherent.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Mmmmk.. you're not making any sense, I can't make a rebuttal to an incoherent idea..imaps3fanboy

If you knew who these people were, then you wouldn't be so incoherent.

But it does, because they use knowledge and books as their main motivation for performing. Not to sell records.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

If you knew who these people were, then you wouldn't be so incoherent.

CaptainBeer

But it does, because they use knowledge and books as their main motivation for performing. Insteadto justsell records

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] I know who all those people are, but I was talking about musical influences. Awesome, they were influenced by major figures in society, they think for themselves. and their music is "deep." Still doesn't make them more influential then any of the classic 50's 60's or 70's bands...imaps3fanboy

But it does, because they use knowledge and books as their main motivation for performing. Insteadto justsell records

Tool is not on stage to entertain you, they are up there to teach you.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

But it does, because they use knowledge and books as their main motivation for performing. Insteadto justsell records

CaptainBeer

Tool is not on stage to entertain you, they are up there to teach you.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

But it does, because they use knowledge and books as their main motivation for performing. Insteadto justsell records

CaptainBeer

Tool is not on stage to entertain you, they are up there to teach you.

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] So do most other bands, I don't see what your point is.Mafiree

Tool is not on stage to entertain you, they are up there to teach you.

You should buy the books Tool reads. Most notibably Alex Grey's illustrations & biographies of these sociologists, psychologists & drugs. Look for books on the Pineal Gland, & dimethyltriptamine.