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in my country car accidents is #2 killer and #1 killer for the youth.
so I think that's ony possible probable way for me to die as I hear about whole families burn in thier cars to death.
and since I am a regular customer for fast food joints and drink almost 7 cans of cola daily then I guess second reason that will cause my death is cancer, gastric , pancreatic or whatever ... "strange thing is with my bad diet I only wiegh 127 while my hieght is 5.4"
now the third killer of moi could be heart disease or kidney faliure?
Feels like my anxiety disorder will be the death of me. Either that or something heart-related. That thing's just too fragile and the cause of many deaths, I think it would be better and save a whole lot more lives if some mechanical cyborg-like contraption could be placed next to your heart, and only gets triggered to have it beat again if it were to suddenly stop beating, or correct the beating if the beating all of a sudden goes haywire and malfunctions, which is basically a heart attack.Toph_Girl250
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]Cancer, Heart stuff, car accident. Those seem like the big 3 that gets everyone in the end. Much like Sun (and everyone else no doubt) I'd like to avoid any severe loss of cognitive ability, really scary stuff. Also Lai please they don't have to kill you they just have to look at make me a sammich's blog and your career would be over. Ace6301No it would not. I can defend every statement on that blog. There's politicians who have had their careers ruined over much more minor things. I suppose you can defend them, a child could defend against an attacking army after all. He just wouldn't do very well.
There is defending, and there is defending. The defending I speak of is a successful defense - the demonstration of the truth of that which is being defended. I can successfully demonstrate the truth of any statement I make, because any and every statement I make is based on a foundation of reason, logic, morality, and philosophy. It is not any philosophy that my ideas are built from, but a moral philosophy. It is not any morality that my ideas are built from, but a logical morality - a logical morality based on non-contradictory reason. My ideas are rooted in a philosophy that cannot be refuted, because it is a philosophy formed in response to reality that is an objective reality consisting of non-contradictory facts. My philosophy cannot be refuted because it is true. If you disagree then you are ignorant.
This objective philosophical foundation that my ideas are based on makes them objectively true. They are true by the objective standards that define what truth is. Their truth is self-evident. I can successfully defend any idea I put forward, because the ideas need no defense, and any issue of defense is irrelevant. My ideas necessarily demonstrate their own truth as a response to objective reality. That is my defense, and if that does not convince you then you are ignorant.
You collectivists, socialists, leftists, and democrats are all the same. You call yourselves progressives. You call yourselves liberals. You call yourselves nice words that used to mean good things. You call yourselves anything you ever once believed it was good to be, but what you called yourselves is and never has been what you are. You are not upholders of values, but destroyers of them. You do not live to create meaning, but to convince yourself that there is no meaning. You are not producers of wealth, but redistributors of wealth that is, thieves acting on the whim of a crusade based on nothing but indignation and self-righteousness in response to nothing in particular.
You are not creators of happiness, but leeches of it. You do not care for the responsibility of recognizing the practical realities of life on this Earth a life concerning physical matter. You left someone else bear that responsibility for you. You are not men, but moral cannibals who eat up those suckers who believe that they can live as men in a society that devours them.
I am not such a cannibal. I am not a leech. I am not a thief or a destroyer, a moocher, a looter, or a killer - I am a man.
Man's highest pursuits are rational thinking and productive action. That truth is the foundation of all good that has ever existed in this universe, and that is the truth that I live by. That is the only truth that can be lived by, because that truth is what makes life possible. Those who live by any other standard live only at the mercy of those who make life possible for them. If you disagree then you are ignorant.
I do not need to defend my ideas because my ideas are what make life on this Earth possible. My ideas are the ideas of life. My philosophy is the philosophy of life, a philosophy built from the logic of an intelligent mind in response to the uncompromising reason of objective existence. I am not ashamed of my ideas, because my ideas are what make my life and yours possible in a reality consisting of facts rather than feelings.
I would do very well in defending my ideas, and I have done very well. I do very well because they need no defense. You cannot criticize my ideas because you have no means to do so. My ideas are based on non-contradictory objective reality. If you disagree then read Atlas Shrugged. If you still disagree then you are close-minded and ignorant.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]You're quite adept with the English language, and I admire that.LaihendiHis reading comprehension could use some work and as Sun has pointed out he could do with some less repetitive sentence structuring. I use repetition as a means of creating a dramatic effect. That is a very effective oratory technique. And a morality is only subjective if it is based on subjective whims. It is not subjective if it is based on objective facts. Good subject matter is much better for oration, repeating boring crap over and over again isn't interesting. But you like Atlas Shrugged so I can see why you think it would be a good thing to do. Nah morality is completely subjective, just an objective fact about it really and if you disagree you're irrational. Also Lai you should record yourself reading a post lol.
your ideals are based off of a fictional book written by somebody, who was herself, on welfare.This objective philosophical foundation that my ideas are based on makes them objectively true.Â
Laihendi
I am not a leech. I am not a thief or a destroyer, a moocher, a looter, or a killer - I am a man.yet you don't produce anything. I work, I have a job, I produce things for DuPont, I pay taxes, I purchase things.Laihendi
You don't produce anything. You are worthless is that respect, all you do is purchase things with somebody elses money. Yes you are a leech.
I am curious to know how Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington, Ayn Rand, and Ron Paul are no more significant than a speck of dust. If you are no more significant than a speck of dust, then it is because that is what you choose to be.LaihendiLMAO at you putting those first 4 people with Ayn Rand and Ron Paul. Your intellectual dishonesty disgusts me.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]
[QUOTE="Ace6301"] There's politicians who have had their careers ruined over much more minor things. I suppose you can defend them, a child could defend against an attacking army after all. He just wouldn't do very well. InEMplease
There is defending, and there is defending. The defending I speak of is a successful defense the demonstration of the truth of that which is being defended. I can successfully demonstrate the truth of any statement I make, because any and every statement I make is based on a foundation of reason, logic, morality, and philosophy. It is not any philosophy that my ideas are built from, but a moral philosophy. It is not any morality that my ideas are built from, but a logical morality a logical morality based on non-contradictory reason. My ideas are rooted in a philosophy that cannot be refuted, because it is a philosophy formed in response to reality that is an objective reality consisting of non-contradictory facts. My philosophy cannot be refuted because it is true. If you disagree then you are ignorant.
This objective philosophical foundation that my ideas are based on makes them objectively true. They are true by the objective standards that define what truth is. Their truth is self-evident. I can successfully defend any idea I put forward, because the ideas need no defense, and any issue of defense is irrelevant. My ideas necessarily demonstrate their own truth as a response to objective reality. That is my defense, and if that does not convince you then you are ignorant.
You collectivists, socialists, leftists, and democrats are all the same. You call yourselves progressives. You call yourselves liberals. You call yourselves nice words that used to mean good things. You call yourselves anything you ever once believed it was good to be, but what you called yourselves is and never has been what you are. You are not upholders of values, but destroyers of them. You do not live to create meaning, but to convince yourself that there is no meaning. You are not producers of wealth, but redistributors of wealth that is, thieves acting on the whim of a crusade based on nothing but indignation and self-righteousness in response to nothing in particular.
You are not creators of happiness, but leeches of it. You do not care for the responsibility of recognizing the practical realities of life on this Earth a life concerning physical matter. You left someone else bear that responsibility for you. You are not men, but moral cannibals who eat up those suckers who believe that they can live as men in a society that devours them.
I am not such a cannibal. I am not a leech. I am not a thief or a destroyer, a moocher, a looter, or a killer - I am a man.
Mans highest pursuits are rational thinking and productive action. That truth is the foundation of all good that has ever existed in this universe, and that is the truth that I live by. That is the only truth that can be lived by, because that truth is what makes life possible. Those who live by any other standard live only at the mercy of those who make life possible for them. If you disagree then you are ignorant.
I do not need to defend my ideas because my ideas are what make life on this Earth possible. My ideas are the ideas of life. My philosophy is the philosophy of life, a philosophy built from the logic of an intelligent mind in response to the uncompromising reason of objective existence. I am not ashamed of my ideas, because my ideas are what make my life and yours possible in a reality consisting of facts rather than feelings.
I would do very well in defending my ideas, and I have done very well. I do very well because they need no defense. You cannot criticize my ideas because you have no means to do so. My ideas are based on non-contradictory objective reality. If you disagree then read Atlas Shrugged. If you still disagree then you are close-minded and ignorant.
Your head is incredibly far up your own ass.
No, it is not. I am a man who loves his life on this Earth. I am a man who values his existence. I am a man with self-esteem. There is nothing wrong with that.No, it is not. I am a man who loves his life on this Earth. I am a man who values his existence. I am a man with self-esteem. There is nothing wrong with that.[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]
Your head is incredibly far up your own ass.
InEMplease
It's the men like you that think they know what's best for everyone that f*ck things up for everyone else. You're just a man, you don't know everything. Come back to reality, Mr. Cobb.
The one who dares to believe that man is capable of possessing knowledge is the one messing things up for everything else? I am just a man? And what are you? What is anyone? Is there some source of knowledge other than man that man can and should live by? You are hostile to me because I am a man of intellect, a man who is a threat to ignorance and death. You have to choose your standard of morality - and live or die by that standard. Mine is the standard of self-esteem and knowledge. Mine is the standard of life on this Earth.It's the men like you that think they know what's best for everyone that f*ck things up for everyone else. You're just a man, you don't know everything. Come back to reality, Mr. Cobb.InEMpleaseIt's unfortunate isn't it that we've seen this happen time and time again yet people like Lai still think they know best. Oh well
[QUOTE="InEMplease"]It's the men like you that think they know what's best for everyone that f*ck things up for everyone else. You're just a man, you don't know everything. Come back to reality, Mr. Cobb.Ace6301It's unfortunate isn't it that we've seen this happen time and time again yet people like Lai still think they know best. Oh well
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] No, it is not. I am a man who loves his life on this Earth. I am a man who values his existence. I am a man with self-esteem. There is nothing wrong with that.InEMplease
It's the men like you that think they know what's best for everyone that f*ck things up for everyone else. You're just a man, you don't know everything. Come back to reality, Mr. Cobb.
The one who dares to believe that man is capable of possessing knowledge is the one messing things up for everything else? I am just a man? And what are you? What is anyone? Is there some source of knowledge other than man that man can and should live by? You are hostile to me because I am a man of intellect, a man who is a threat to ignorance and death. You have to choose your standard of morality - and live or die by that standard. Mine is the standard of self-esteem and knowledge. Mine is the standard of life on this Earth.You have my respect, Lai. I hold no hard feelings toward you. You're quite adept with the English language, and I admire that.
My only criticism is you won't even entertain the idea of you being incorrect. You talk of morality like you created the concept. What makes you the infallible expert?
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]Cancer, Heart stuff, car accident. Those seem like the big 3 that gets everyone in the end. Much like Sun (and everyone else no doubt) I'd like to avoid any severe loss of cognitive ability, really scary stuff. Also Lai please they don't have to kill you they just have to look at make me a sammich's blog and your career would be over. Ace6301No it would not. I can defend every statement on that blog. There's politicians who have had their careers ruined over much more minor things. I suppose you can defend them, a child could defend against an attacking army after all. He just wouldn't do very well. aw, you do care :')
[QUOTE="InEMplease"]You're quite adept with the English language, and I admire that.Ace6301His reading comprehension could use some work and as Sun has pointed out he could do with some less repetitive sentence structuring. I use repetition as a means of creating a dramatic effect. That is a very effective oratory technique. And a morality is only subjective if it is based on subjective whims. It is not subjective if it is based on objective facts.
[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]your ideals are based off of a fictional book written by somebody, who was herself, on welfare.Ace6301Well she wasn't on welfare when she was writing it. She was however on drugs. explains alot.
1) Prostate cancer - This runs in my family. But I'm not especially concerned, since none of my relatives who died of it were younger than 80.
2) Heart attack - No family history, and I am health-conscious with respect to diet and exercise, but it's still one of the more common ways to die in our society. My job is often quite stressful and tinnitus prevents me from getting a good 8-hour sleep every night, so that may contribute to this possibility.
3) Car accident - not likely that I would be the cause of it, but I routinely see people doing stupid things on the road, and I've either nearly been hit or been forced to take evasive action on too many occasions to rule out the possibility. I also live in a country with severe winter driving conditions, which doesn't help.
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not.Laihendi
I am not afraid of you - you would lose independent of that. I, not you, hold an OTcar for best debater, that you apparently desire more than I. Well, not really, b/c ur a trawl.
I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.I voted for sun that year, IIRC (b/c I thought he was the better debater - he is). Moreover, I am not a liberal, at least in the "mainstream" sense of the word, though perhaps the classical (even that, I don't know I really care for). The reason that you were voted worst debater is because you were, and you still are by the way. The fact that you haven't realized this is pretty stunning, considering the voluminous amount of exposure to losing debates you have endured. You are unwilling to learn. Nonetheless, I am drunk, and am arguing with a troll. You were banned from TDH b/c you are a tw@t. The more time changes, the more things remain the same.
I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
I am not afraid of you - you would lose independent of that. I, not you, hold an OTcar for best debater, that you apparently desire more than I. Well, not really, b/c ur a trawl.
coolbeans90
I voted for sun that year, IIRC (b/c I thought he was the better debater - he is). Moreover, I am not a liberal, at least in the "mainstream" sense of the word, though perhaps the classical (even that, I don't know I really care for). The reason that you were voted worst debater is because you were, you and still are by the way. The fact that you haven't realized is pretty stunning, considering the voluminous amount of exposure you have endured in losing. Nonetheless, I am drunk, and am arguing with a troll. You were banned from TDH b/c you are a tw@t. The more time changes, the more things remain the same.
Do not call me a troll. I am not a troll. You are a troll. You vote for Obama and you talk about how interested you are in studying books by socialists and communists, and then you claim to not be a left-wing liberal. You have no right to determine my skill as a debater because you are drunk. You have no right to determine anything because you are intoxicated.I am not a twat, and I never have been. I was banned from TDH for expressing libertarian and Objectivist views in the Unpopular Opinions thread, which is absurd. It is absurd to ban someone for expressing political/philosophical views, especially when they are concerned with advocating human rights, and even more so when it is an unpopular opinion in a place supposedly for such unpopular opinion. That whole forum is a fraud.
And you are conveniently leaving out the rest of my post which demonstrates why abortion should be legal.Laihendi
Presumably, they stem from the same reasons why you think parents should be able to rape and murder their children without repercussions from the state.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]You vote for Obama and you talk about how interested you are in studying books by socialists and communists, and then you claim to not be a left-wing liberal. You have no right to determine by skill as a debater because you are drunk. You have no right to determine anything because you are intoxicated. I am not a twat, and I never have been. I was banned from TDH for expressing libertarian and Objectivist views in the Unpopular Opinions thread, which is absurd. It is absurd to ban someone for expressing political/philosophical views, especially when they are concerned with advocating human rights, and even more so when it is an unpopular opinion in a place supposedly for such unpopular opinion. That whole forum is a fraud.coolbeans90
Intoxication merely lessens my social inhibitions to call things precisely as I see them when sober. I did not vote for Obama, you trolly, poor-debating twat. That place is a gem.
Perhaps you did not vote for Obama, but you are just being rude. Being drunk makes you unable to think coherently. Stop calling me a troll.[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]You vote for Obama and you talk about how interested you are in studying books by socialists and communists, and then you claim to not be a left-wing liberal. You have no right to determine by skill as a debater because you are drunk. You have no right to determine anything because you are intoxicated. I am not a twat, and I never have been. I was banned from TDH for expressing libertarian and Objectivist views in the Unpopular Opinions thread, which is absurd. It is absurd to ban someone for expressing political/philosophical views, especially when they are concerned with advocating human rights, and even more so when it is an unpopular opinion in a place supposedly for such unpopular opinion. That whole forum is a fraud.Laihendi
Intoxication merely lessens my social inhibitions to call things precisely as I see them when sober. I did not vote for Obama, you trolly, poor-debating twat. That place is a gem.
I apologize for accusing you of voting for Obama, but you are just being rude. Being drunk makes you unable to think coherently. Stop calling me a troll.I'll toss the greater share of the abrasiveness on the alcohol, but in all honesty, you need to examine how you present arguments because, whatever is happening between your ears, as posted, they lack fundamentally sound extensions from axioms - without even taking issue with those.
Ayn Rand was never on welfare. That is a lie spread by people who have no means to criticize her ideas so they make up lies about her person to allow them to resort to ad hominem attacks. She is one of the most successful writers of the 20th century. She was a wealthy woman when she died, and there was absolutely no reason for her to resort to welfare. A millionaire does not need medicare, and her estate at the time of her death was worth over one million 2013 dollars after you adjust for inflation. And InEM, objective facts are self-explanatory. A morality based on objective facts is an objective morality. An objective morality recognizes that liberty is a prerequisite for life, and that one can only live to the extent that he is free to.Laihendishe was on welfare.
http://www.alternet.org/story/149721/ayn_rand_railed_against_government_benefits%2C_but_grabbed_social_security_and_medicare_when_she_needed_them
her book was still fiction, and it's sad that you base your life around an imaginary story.
I would do very well in defending my ideas
Laihendi
In all actuality, you haven't. You are a subpar debater.
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