Ok so this isn't about tech or hardware because we all know who is at the top of that list...im thinking about the grunts on the ground...who would you want to least face in combat...
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Probably SEALs.Ghost_702Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.
I would not want to go up against the Israeli army or Britains Special forces.Sparticus247
I'm with this guy. Isreal's standard sidearm is the desert eagle.
[QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.jaydoughYeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
If you are asking about straight up infantry then I would prolly have to say....
USMC
Turkish Army (I have heard those guys are crazy tough)
ROK Marine's (Dad served with some in Vietnam and said they couldn't possibly be human)
I am sure I missed a couple.
As for special forces types I would say
British SAS and/or SBS (all American special forces are modeled after the British)
Force Recon/SEAL (similar training)
Spetsnaz (I dunno if they are still elite though after the fall of the USSR).
One could debate all day about those included or those that weren't.
Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.mrbojangles25
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
The question was," Which army do you not want to see in a war?" Sure, the SEALs would crumble if in combat, but it isn't about the combat. If you have a few teams of SEALs, they can take out officers and key objectives. Think of it as a house of cards, where the officers and key objectives are the cards that are supporting the most weight. If you take out those cards, the other cards won't have anything reinforcing them, and it would fall.[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.jaydough
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
The question was," Which army do you not want to see in a war?" Sure, the SEALs would crumble if in combat, but it isn't about the combat. If you have a few teams of SEALs, they can take out officers and key objectives. Think of it as a house of cards, where the officers and key objectives are the cards that are supporting the most weight. If you take out those cards, the other cards won't have anything reinforcing them, and it would fall.ah my mistake, in that application then the yes, the SEALs would be one of the ideal choices. I was just going by the thread topic, not was typed in the first post.
[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.mrbojangles25
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
The question was," Which army do you not want to see in a war?" Sure, the SEALs would crumble if in combat, but it isn't about the combat. If you have a few teams of SEALs, they can take out officers and key objectives. Think of it as a house of cards, where the officers and key objectives are the cards that are supporting the most weight. If you take out those cards, the other cards won't have anything reinforcing them, and it would fall.ah my mistake, in that application then the yes, the SEALs would be one of the ideal choices. I was just going by the thread topic, not was typed in the first post.
I see... But then again, the British SAS would also be a very formidable opponent...[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.jaydough
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
The question was," Which army do you not want to see in a war?" Sure, the SEALs would crumble if in combat, but it isn't about the combat. If you have a few teams of SEALs, they can take out officers and key objectives. Think of it as a house of cards, where the officers and key objectives are the cards that are supporting the most weight. If you take out those cards, the other cards won't have anything reinforcing them, and it would fall.ah my mistake, in that application then the yes, the SEALs would be one of the ideal choices. I was just going by the thread topic, not was typed in the first post.
I see... But then again, the British SAS would also be a very formidable opponent...yup, and therein lies the problem...you can only train a human to be so good. I think the SAS, SEALs, and whatever other special forces are problably all pretty dang close in capability, and some might be better than others in certain areas but it all equals out.
As for the issue of Seals I would rather face a seal than a member of Delta Force or 'The unit'pugmonkey9999
lol what is 'the unit'?
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.jaydough
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
The question was," Which army do you not want to see in a war?" Sure, the SEALs would crumble if in combat, but it isn't about the combat. If you have a few teams of SEALs, they can take out officers and key objectives. Think of it as a house of cards, where the officers and key objectives are the cards that are supporting the most weight. If you take out those cards, the other cards won't have anything reinforcing them, and it would fall. No, this topic asked "who would you want to least face in combat?"[QUOTE="pugmonkey9999"]As for the issue of Seals I would rather face a seal than a member of Delta Force or 'The unit'mrbojangles25
lol what is 'the unit'?
It is a supposed super secretive branch of military that carries out the US assassinations. Real or not I have no clue but I wouldn't want to meet them. They made a show about it called The Unit
I dont know...it's not like there's one super army of 350 pound hairy men out there....or is there? :|Fire_Ants
Stalin tried to cross breed apes and humans for a super army so your idea isn't that far off :~
[QUOTE="Fire_Ants"]I dont know...it's not like there's one super army of 350 pound hairy men out there....or is there? :|pugmonkey9999
Stalin tried to cross breed apes and humans for a super army so your idea isn't that far off :~
Aight, I would be afraid of them. Very.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Yeah, although the SEALs don't count as an army, since they're a branch of the US Navy, they could kick any army's ass.[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Probably SEALs.jaydough
Not really.
The SEALs job is to get in and accomplish an objective without being seen or to do so with minimal combat. Against an adequately trained army, the SEALs would crumble. If SEALs went into North Korea, for example, to blow up a radar dish, they could pull it off discretely. But if they were spotted they would get wiped out as soon as Korean reinforcements came.
Its not a question of capability: a SEAL is better trained than your standard soldier, no doubt about that; its a question of logistics, and the SEALs just dont operate in the numbers necessary for conventional warfare.
The question was," Which army do you not want to see in a war?" Sure, the SEALs would crumble if in combat, but it isn't about the combat. If you have a few teams of SEALs, they can take out officers and key objectives. Think of it as a house of cards, where the officers and key objectives are the cards that are supporting the most weight. If you take out those cards, the other cards won't have anything reinforcing them, and it would fall.ah my mistake, in that application then the yes, the SEALs would be one of the ideal choices. I was just going by the thread topic, not was typed in the first post.
I see... But then again, the British SAS would also be a very formidable opponent... Their very SASSYThe Russian army is pretty tough...Mystery-
The SAS may be stealthy, but they cannot hide from bullet.
Princess Patricia's Canadian Light infantry, dont let the name fool you these guys have won alot of military competitions.Thevenin167
*giggles* Crap *sleeps with one eye open*
I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...
Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...
For normal infantry probably Canadian Forces. I heard they're pretty hardxcore
For any unit/force, probably Marine Force Recon, or any variant of the SAS
Yeah, but it's THEIR obstacle course. They're familiar with it. I'd assume a VISITING group of Marines would be unfamiliar with it.I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...
Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...
D3nnyCrane
You dont want to face MARSOC (Formerly Marine Force Recon), Delta Force, SAS, SEALs. The toughest military in the world would be the one with the most experience and at this time it is the US military. Israel also has alot of experience but they have small numbers.
Alot of the Special forces have different jobs, for example a standard Marine on the ground is going to operate differently than a SEAL. Particularly in Iraq, Marines confront directly while the SEALs tend to stay back and work from there although really not efficiently, you would be surprised.
[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]Yeah, but it's THEIR obstacle course. They're familiar with it. I'd assume a VISITING group of Marines would be unfamiliar with it.I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...
Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...
DivergeUnify
Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.
[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]Yeah, but it's THEIR obstacle course. They're familiar with it. I'd assume a VISITING group of Marines would be unfamiliar with it.I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...
Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...
DivergeUnify
You dont want to face MARSOC (Formerly Marine Force Recon), Delta Force, SAS, SEALs. The toughest military in the world would be the one with the most experience and at this time it is the US military. Israel also has alot of experience but they have small numbers.
Alot of the Special forces have different jobs, for example a standard Marine on the ground is going to operate differently than a SEAL. Particularly in Iraq, Marines confront directly while the SEALs tend to stay back and work from there although really not efficiently, you would be surprised.
UrbanSpartan125
dude the current US army is incredibly inexperienced only the special forces actually do well you see the army follows a mantra the shinier the better and that will not work in Iraq
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]Yeah, but it's THEIR obstacle course. They're familiar with it. I'd assume a VISITING group of Marines would be unfamiliar with it.I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...
Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...
D3nnyCrane
Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.
8 hours to do an obstacle course, are you kidding. What where they Marines from WW2. The French Foreign Legion is a joke, really its pathetic.I would least want to face any army that uses child soldiers.Oleg_Huzwog
Touche. Seriously. If you had to do that, it would scar you psychologically for the rest of your life. Who in their right minds would actually have the iron will to shoot a kid. Even if they're like 16, and know what they're doing. If you know that they're kids, and you still shoot them, something is seriously wrong with you.
And NO, the USA is not the most sophisticated nation when it comes to military weapons, strategies, or forces. We'll see how America fares in the next global war.
[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]You dont want to face MARSOC (Formerly Marine Force Recon), Delta Force, SAS, SEALs. The toughest military in the world would be the one with the most experience and at this time it is the US military. Israel also has alot of experience but they have small numbers.
Alot of the Special forces have different jobs, for example a standard Marine on the ground is going to operate differently than a SEAL. Particularly in Iraq, Marines confront directly while the SEALs tend to stay back and work from there although really not efficiently, you would be surprised.
vito_128
dude the current US army is incredibly inexperienced only the special forces actually do well you see the army follows a mantra the shinier the better and that will not work in Iraq
You have no idea what you are talking about, the US military is comprised more than the US Army, the Marines are actually alot of the fighting force. You cant be fighting a war and be inexperienced, you are experiencing war and gaining more knowledge of the area and the enemy every day. The US military is by far the most experienced, and i don't know where you get your information. "Only the special forces actually do well" How the hell would you know that? Have you seen them operate in Iraq, they arent all the tough guys everyone makes them out to be, but they have their different missions and do it efficiently.Please Log In to post.
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