Toughest army in the world

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...

Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...

UrbanSpartan125

Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.

I really do not know where to start with your ramblings:

OK first of all there have been massive changes to legislation to ensure that people with criminal history are vetted pre-enlistment, but who would you rather face: Hardened criminals or school leavers?

The 8 hours was done by a group of Marines. It is the longest time at the Congo Course. This was in 1999.

The moment you arrive at the Legion training you will not be responded to unless you talk in French. This adds to the already world-recognised miltary training experienced, in addition to adding to the almost inhumane psychological standards of the training.

Seriously, there is a reason FFL areas are no longer listed as world hot spots...

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]I would least want to face any army that uses child soldiers.TirOrn

Touche. Seriously. If you had to do that, it would scar you psychologically for the rest of your life. Who in their right minds would actually have the iron will to shoot a kid. Even if they're like 16, and know what they're doing. If you know that they're kids, and you still shoot them, something is seriously wrong with you.

And NO, the USA is not the most sophisticated nation when it comes to military weapons, strategies, or forces. We'll see how America fares in the next global war.

And for the second part you are wrong big time, you obviously have not taken into account the US massive military budget, that is more than the next top 25 nations combined. You haven't taken a look at Future Combat Systems. When there is another global war i can guarantee you that the US and our allies will fare better than any other country or alliance.

[QUOTE="vito_128"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]

You dont want to face MARSOC (Formerly Marine Force Recon), Delta Force, SAS, SEALs. The toughest military in the world would be the one with the most experience and at this time it is the US military. Israel also has alot of experience but they have small numbers.

Alot of the Special forces have different jobs, for example a standard Marine on the ground is going to operate differently than a SEAL. Particularly in Iraq, Marines confront directly while the SEALs tend to stay back and work from there although really not efficiently, you would be surprised.

UrbanSpartan125

dude the current US army is incredibly inexperienced only the special forces actually do well you see the army follows a mantra the shinier the better and that will not work in Iraq

I agree on you on that but however im also taking into account the others by that I mean the grunts and I agree that they do their job efficently but if they simply rely on the shiny tools they won't win not that they will anyway.I would have to say have they fought a real war not one of those instantly over wars?

[QUOTE="vito_128"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]

You dont want to face MARSOC (Formerly Marine Force Recon), Delta Force, SAS, SEALs. The toughest military in the world would be the one with the most experience and at this time it is the US military. Israel also has alot of experience but they have small numbers.

Alot of the Special forces have different jobs, for example a standard Marine on the ground is going to operate differently than a SEAL. Particularly in Iraq, Marines confront directly while the SEALs tend to stay back and work from there although really not efficiently, you would be surprised.

UrbanSpartan125

dude the current US army is incredibly inexperienced only the special forces actually do well you see the army follows a mantra the shinier the better and that will not work in Iraq

Well there's obviously no bias in your argument, with your sig and all. Pardon my rudeness, but your opinion reeks of insolent American patriotism, which serves no purpose whatsoever. May I ask, are you actually a serving member in any part of the US deployment?

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]I would least want to face any army that uses child soldiers.TirOrn

Touche. Seriously. If you had to do that, it would scar you psychologically for the rest of your life. Who in their right minds would actually have the iron will to shoot a kid. Even if they're like 16, and know what they're doing. If you know that they're kids, and you still shoot them, something is seriously wrong with you.

And NO, the USA is not the most sophisticated nation when it comes to military weapons, strategies, or forces. We'll see how America fares in the next global war.

[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...

Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...

D3nnyCrane

Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.

I really do not know where to start with your ramblings:

OK first of all there have been massive changes to legislation to ensure that people with criminal history are vetted pre-enlistment, but who would you rather face: Hardened criminals or school leavers?

The 8 hours was done by a group of Marines. It is the longest time at the Congo Course. This was in 1999.

The moment you arrive at the Legion training you will not be responded to unless you talk in French. This adds to the already world-recognised miltary training experienced, in addition to adding to the almost inhumane psychological standards of the training.

Seriously, there is a reason FFL areas are no longer listed as world hot spots...

Most of the people in the legion are criminals or have been kicked out of other militaries

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6777372516104300363

And unlike the FFL, the Marines and other forces are actually fighting somewhere

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Marine&hl=en&sitesearch=&start=10

[QUOTE="TirOrn"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]I would least want to face any army that uses child soldiers.UrbanSpartan125

Touche. Seriously. If you had to do that, it would scar you psychologically for the rest of your life. Who in their right minds would actually have the iron will to shoot a kid. Even if they're like 16, and know what they're doing. If you know that they're kids, and you still shoot them, something is seriously wrong with you.

And NO, the USA is not the most sophisticated nation when it comes to military weapons, strategies, or forces. We'll see how America fares in the next global war.

And for the second part you are wrong big time, you obviously have not taken into account the US massive military budget, that is more than the next top 25 nations combined. You haven't taken a look at Future Combat Systems. When there is another global war i can guarantee you that the US and our allies will fare better than any other country or alliance.

I agree with you on the first part. If you isolate an event like that, I can understand. Especially if he's actually threatening you.

However, if you were fighting against a so-called army of these juveniles, on a front, with no real actual personal danger to yourself but bullets from a distance, then you probably would think more about pulling the trigger than if you were fighting Iraqi insurgents.

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...

Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...

UrbanSpartan125

Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.

I really do not know where to start with your ramblings:

OK first of all there have been massive changes to legislation to ensure that people with criminal history are vetted pre-enlistment, but who would you rather face: Hardened criminals or school leavers?

The 8 hours was done by a group of Marines. It is the longest time at the Congo Course. This was in 1999.

The moment you arrive at the Legion training you will not be responded to unless you talk in French. This adds to the already world-recognised miltary training experienced, in addition to adding to the almost inhumane psychological standards of the training.

Seriously, there is a reason FFL areas are no longer listed as world hot spots...

Most of the people in the legion are criminals or have been kicked out of other militaries

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6777372516104300363

And unlike the FFL, the Marines and other forces are actually fighting somewhere

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Marine&hl=en&sitesearch=&start=10

Of course silly me I made up the 8 hour claim in order to win a forum debate...

And yes how right you are the French legion is purely made up of criminals - I mean everyone knows what a disorganised rabble they are, and how piss-easy their training is...

And no the FFL aren't currently deployed all through Africa, or in Afghanistan, or Lebanon - I mean go you Marines!

Seriosuly dude I can understand you being proud of being military and all - but come on, be realistic and admiot you are far from "the greatest force on the planet". When I was in Afghanistan I was a whole lot more impressed by the British and Aussies over there.

[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...

Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...

D3nnyCrane

Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.

I really do not know where to start with your ramblings:

OK first of all there have been massive changes to legislation to ensure that people with criminal history are vetted pre-enlistment, but who would you rather face: Hardened criminals or school leavers?

The 8 hours was done by a group of Marines. It is the longest time at the Congo Course. This was in 1999.

The moment you arrive at the Legion training you will not be responded to unless you talk in French. This adds to the already world-recognised miltary training experienced, in addition to adding to the almost inhumane psychological standards of the training.

Seriously, there is a reason FFL areas are no longer listed as world hot spots...

Most of the people in the legion are criminals or have been kicked out of other militaries

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6777372516104300363

And unlike the FFL, the Marines and other forces are actually fighting somewhere

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Marine&hl=en&sitesearch=&start=10

When I was in Afghanistan I was a whole lot more impressed by the British and Aussies over there.

Who were you with?

[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I might change mine to the French Foreign Legion - I saw a DVD on their training and they're harder than a coffin nail...

Ironically, the record for their obstacle course in The Congo is completion in 45 minutes - it took a visiting group of Marines 8 hours...

D3nnyCrane

Umm it is AN obstacle course -the Legionaires had never seen it before either. And any way you slice it, 8 hours is a long time to get an obstacle course done.

I really do not know where to start with your ramblings:

OK first of all there have been massive changes to legislation to ensure that people with criminal history are vetted pre-enlistment, but who would you rather face: Hardened criminals or school leavers?

The 8 hours was done by a group of Marines. It is the longest time at the Congo Course. This was in 1999.

The moment you arrive at the Legion training you will not be responded to unless you talk in French. This adds to the already world-recognised miltary training experienced, in addition to adding to the almost inhumane psychological standards of the training.

Seriously, there is a reason FFL areas are no longer listed as world hot spots...

Most of the people in the legion are criminals or have been kicked out of other militaries

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6777372516104300363

And unlike the FFL, the Marines and other forces are actually fighting somewhere

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Marine&hl=en&sitesearch=&start=10

Of course silly me I made up the 8 hour claim in order to win a forum debate...

And yes how right you are the French legion is purely made up of criminals - I mean everyone knows what a disorganised rabble they are, and how piss-easy their training is...

And no the FFL aren't currently deployed all through Africa, or in Afghanistan, or Lebanon - I mean go you Marines!

Seriosuly dude I can understand you being proud of being military and all - but come on, be realistic and admiot you are far from "the greatest force on the planet". When I was in Afghanistan I was a whole lot more impressed by the British and Aussies over there.

SPAAAARTAAAAAA!

Space Marines.

I wouldn't want to face Israeli grunts, their specialized hand to hand training and combat is insane. Also, as the Americans learned not too long ago, the Vietnamese armed forces are nothing to take lightly.Andrew_Xavier

The British Army since they have Gurkhas.

Mr_Manikin52

lol the Gurkhas are baddass

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]I wouldn't want to face Israeli grunts, their specialized hand to hand training and combat is insane. Also, as the Americans learned not too long ago, the Vietnamese armed forces are nothing to take lightly.UrbanSpartan125

It was a major failed military campaign that left a massive black eye on the american armed forced and painted them as terrorists and rapists. I'd say that was more than a political failure :)

These threads are laaaaaaaame.bradleybhoy

Al quedia Elite troops

these guyz are tough they have fought the Russians and America and are battle harden warriors

Norg

The US.

We kick ass, as a whole.

Russians