Transformers 2 controversy

Thoughts?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/ap_en_mo/us_film_transformers_jar_jar_again

Some people just have a tendency to find controversy in anything. Almost like they want to find something, no matter how ridiculous. This is one of those times, I think.

The robots are black.

You'll find racism anywhere if you look hard enough.

lol! Im not sure what to think personally. As one guy said though--they probably just read to much into the characters. I won't be surprised if this thread opens the opportunity for the "blacks are overreactors and hypocrites" people to try get a point across.

Who cares really?

The movie sucked. That's all I have to say

well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Tjeremiah1988

atone point in the film,I could have swore one of those bots dropped the N bomb.

You'll find racism anywhere if you look hard enough.

McJugga

well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...elblanquito_81

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Tjeremiah1988

Admit it they WERE sterotypical. They even used the N word for crying out loud!

You cannot deny that their was some minor racial stereotyping in that film for comedic affect in regards to the two red and green robots.

Admit it theyWERE sterotypical. They even used the N word for crying out loud!

You cannot deny that their was some minor racial stereotyping in that film for comedic affect in regards to the two red and green robots.

IndigoSunrise

You'll find racism anywhere if you look hard enough.

McJugga

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Tjeremiah1988

They even used the N word for crying out loud!

IndigoSunrise

(facepalm.) ohhhh how "cool." :roll:

No wonder that's all you here kids scream over XBOXlive. :x

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]I don't get it. The Transformer was...black?? How can you (or anyone else for that matter) tell? I didn't realize they had skin. Or that robots had ethnicities. :?

elblanquito_81

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

They even used the N word for crying out loud!

FamiBox

(facepalm.) ohhhh how "cool." :roll:

No wonder that's all you here kids scream over XBOXlive. :x

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] Some say he was black because the way he was protrayed, you know, how the media saids someone is "acting black." He was voiced by the dude who played Eddie in FamilyMatters.

Tjeremiah1988

didn't Jazz get fixed?

or did he really die?

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] Some say he was black because the way he was protrayed, you know, how the media saids someone is "acting black." He was voiced by the dude who played Eddie in FamilyMatters.

Tjeremiah1988

So if a "white" robot was the first to die it would be fine?

Do people even know what racist means? Stereotyping doesn't mean you're "racist".

Yes people, I'm sure Michael Bay thinks that white people are inherently superior to black people...GIVE ME A BREAK.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]I don't know, as I watched the movie I didn't see any kind of racist portrayal. Just because the guy who voiced him is black, doesn't mean the robot is also meant to be black because.....they're robots. If people thought they saw something along the lines of "acting black", then blame the guy who voiced him. Which would seem kind of ridiculous considering, don't you think?? Really, it's just people making something out of nothing. If Bay wanted to make a stereotypical black character, why didn't he do it with Tyrese's character? Or Anthony Anderson's?? They sure as hell didn't come across as "acting black".

trix5817

So if a "white" robot was the first to die it would be fine?

Do people even know what racist means? Stereotyping doesn't mean you're "racist".

Yes people, I'm sure Michael Bay thinks that white people are inherently superior to black people...GIVE ME A BREAK.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]I don't know, as I watched the movie I didn't see any kind of racist portrayal. Just because the guy who voiced him is black, doesn't mean the robot is also meant to be black because.....they're robots. If people thought they saw something along the lines of "acting black", then blame the guy who voiced him. Which would seem kind of ridiculous considering, don't you think?? Really, it's just people making something out of nothing. If Bay wanted to make a stereotypical black character, why didn't he do it with Tyrese's character? Or Anthony Anderson's?? They sure as hell didn't come across as "acting black".

vidplayer8

didn't Jazz get fixed?

or did he really die?

Why didnt anyone complain about Jaz being a stereotype in the first film? Hell he was the only autobot that died. Those two robots are kickass but the gold tooth was a bit too much.

Racism? I thought the controversey was going to be about how one of the robots has balls.

Some say he was black because the way he was protrayed, you know, how the media saids someone is "acting black." Tjeremiah1988

I don't know what you're talking about. He was acting like this guy.

Oh my god! WTF!? I just got out of that theater watching it, and it wasn't as awesome as the first, but it was still awesome. And those two robots aren't even main characters of this generation. Now if it was Optimus saying that, there would be a problem.

I didn't find it all the bad.

Hell I didn't really think of them as being black. Just because they have a funny voice and they bicker alot dosen't mean they're black. :?

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

Some say he was black because the way he was protrayed, you know, how the media saids someone is "acting black." LikeHaterade

I don't know what you're talking about. He was acting like this guy.

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

Some say he was black because the way he was protrayed, you know, how the media saids someone is "acting black." He was voiced by the dude who played Eddie in FamilyMatters.

Tjeremiah1988

I didn't find it all the bad.

Hell I didn't really think of them as being black. Just because they have a funny voice and they bicker alot dosen't mean they're black. :?

muffincakes87

The robots are black.

cu_be_cie

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]I don't know, as I watched the movie I didn't see any kind of racist portrayal. Just because the guy who voiced him is black, doesn't mean the robot is also meant to be black because.....they're robots. If people thought they saw something along the lines of "acting black", then blame the guy who voiced him. Which would seem kind of ridiculous considering, don't you think?? Really, it's just people making something out of nothing. If Bay wanted to make a stereotypical black character, why didn't he do it with Tyrese's character? Or Anthony Anderson's?? They sure as hell didn't come across as "acting black".

elblanquito_81

funny because one of the actors in TF2 said he was told that the alien robots learned about human culture through the Web and that the twins were "wannabe gangster types." :P

Tjeremiah1988

Whoa whoa whoa...You didn't know? K-fed is a gansta too...

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]I don't know, as I watched the movie I didn't see any kind of racist portrayal. Just because the guy who voiced him is black, doesn't mean the robot is also meant to be black because.....they're robots. If people thought they saw something along the lines of "acting black", then blame the guy who voiced him. Which would seem kind of ridiculous considering, don't you think?? Really, it's just people making something out of nothing. If Bay wanted to make a stereotypical black character, why didn't he do it with Tyrese's character? Or Anthony Anderson's?? They sure as hell didn't come across as "acting black".

vidplayer8

didn't Jazz get fixed?

or did he really die?

i think he really died. im almost certain that i didnt see him in Transformers 2.

in the first one optimus said "his death was in vain" or something like that, while optimus was holding both halves of jazz.

plus there was no ponitac solstice in the second movie so i think hes dead

[QUOTE="vidplayer8"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I dont remember everything but this is only addressed to the first Transformers where the character started to talk in slang/street and started to dance with hip-hop in bg and was the first to die. I think thats why many felt that way, it was little, and didnt make any news headlines as this one has. Thats all. konvikt_17

didn't Jazz get fixed?

or did he really die?

i think he really died. im almost certain that i didnt see him in Transformers 2.

in the first one optimus said "his death was in vain" or something like that, while optimus was holding both halves of jazz.

plus there was no ponitac solstice in the second movie so i think hes dead

atone point in the film,I could have swore one of those bots dropped the N bomb.

Treytone

nope the N-word was never used in the movie

People still get iffy over things like these?

Those two idiot characters ruined the movie for me. I hated Jazz in the first movie and then they bring back his horrible personality with Mudflap and Skidz. Now I know what it must have felt like when adults saw Phantom Menace for the first time and saw the horror that was Jar Jar Binks.

[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

I didn't find it all the bad.

Hell I didn't really think of them as being black. Just because they have a funny voice and they bicker alot dosen't mean they're black. :?

Tjeremiah1988

The N word must of slipped by me cause I don't recall hearing it.

I remember gold teeth but only reason they showed it is because someone punched him. I thought gold teeth is because of car he was. When I saw the film I didn't picture being black. What I pictured them is two immature twin brothers who argued and bickered alot. I pictured that because that's how me and my brothers were. Didn't think they were that bad.

[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

I didn't find it all the bad.

Hell I didn't really think of them as being black. Just because they have a funny voice and they bicker alot dosen't mean they're black. :?

Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

I didn't find it all the bad.

Hell I didn't really think of them as being black. Just because they have a funny voice and they bicker alot dosen't mean they're black. :?

muffincakes87

The N word must of slipped by me cause I don't recall hearing it.

I remember gold teeth but only reason they showed it is because someone punched him. I thought gold teeth is because of car he was. When I saw the film I didn't picture being black. What I pictured them is two immature twin brothers who argued and bickered alot. I pictured that because that's how me and my brothers were. Didn't think they were that bad.

yea same here.

i didnt hear the N-word at all.

and same with the twins. they just bickered and stuff cuz thats what twins do