Transformers 2 controversy

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I dont remember everything but this is only addressed to the first Transformers where the character started to talk in slang/street and started to dance with hip-hop in bg and was the first to die. I think thats why many felt that way, it was little, and didnt make any news headlines as this one has. Thats all. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]I'm not directing this at you, I'm just making a general comment here: if people see a robot character that talks in slang, is the first to die, and assume it's because it's "black", then they have some serious issues.

elblanquito_81

The Spanish thing wouldn't have gotten any attention because in real life you can only be racist agains Black people remember? :roll:

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

I didn't find it all the bad.

Hell I didn't really think of them as being black. Just because they have a funny voice and they bicker alot dosen't mean they're black. :?

The N word must of slipped by me cause I don't recall hearing it.

I remember gold teeth but only reason they showed it is because someone punched him. I thought gold teeth is because of car he was. When I saw the film I didn't picture being black. What I pictured them is two immature twin brothers who argued and bickered alot. I pictured that because that's how me and my brothers were. Didn't think they were that bad.

well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]well you have to admit that it is racist and they knew it would cause controversy. You have people talking slang, gold teeth, what the media and ignorant people call "acting black." They figured they can spin it somehow after the drama (didnt get news though) that the first Transformer that died in the first movie was black...Chutebox

[QUOTE="cu_be_cie"]

The robots are black.

-FlyLo-

That's just their bling.

They're made of bling.

The grillz went too far.

The robots are black.

cu_be_cie

[QUOTE="cu_be_cie"]

The robots are black.

Tauruslink

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="cu_be_cie"]

The robots are black.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Yeah they really are. And anyone who says otherwise is just covering the truth. Tauruslink

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Yeah they really are. And anyone who says otherwise is just covering the truth. Tauruslink

Yeah they were stereotypical characters.

I don't think Bay is racist or hollywood. Its the "common" stereotypical belief that urban Black people act like that. And this was simply a case of those people regurgatating what they've been told and society has beaten into their minds.

It sure as hell is racist but I don't think they are racist. Its along the lines of hate the sin, not the sinner. Its what society and mainstream media have perputuated to the public as being "black" along with all the other stereotypes for the various different races, ethnicities, and classes.

I wish they hadn't of done it and while they were funny there are ways to achieve humor without having to continue to present these stereotypical images of a certain people. And please don't try to explain it away as part of the lore or plot in that they "learned it from the internet" because why couldn't they learn about W.E.B. Dubois or Fredrick Dougless? Fact is Bay had this image in his head and in an effort for comic relief relied on it to get laughs.

Its not a matter of "looking hard for racism" racism is pretty easy to spot and in 2009 people would like to be represented in manners other than their stereotypical ones.

Yeah they were stereotypical characters.

I don't think Bay is racist or hollywood. Its the "common" stereotypical belief that urban Black people act like that. And this was simply a case of those people regurgatating what they've been told and society has beaten into their minds.

It sure as hell is racist but I don't think they are racist. Its along the lines of hate the sin, not the sinner. Its what society and mainstream media have perputuated to the public as being "black" along with all the other stereotypes for the various different races, ethnicities, and classes.

I wish they hadn't of done it and while they were funny there are ways to achieve humor without having to continue to present these stereotypical images of a certain people. And please don't try to explain it away as part of the lore or plot in that they "learned it from the internet" because why couldn't they learn about W.E.B. Dubois or Fredrick Dougless? Fact is Bay had this image in his head and in an effort for comic relief relied on it to get laughs.

Its not a matter of "looking hard for racism" racism is pretty easy to spot and in 2009 people would like to be represented in manners other than their stereotypical ones.

XturnalS

I agree with this except for the bolded. I'm amazed that they actually put these charactors in it. They could have just made them different charactors, or you know, not robots which for some reason have ape- like features, act stoned, speak ebonics and are illiterate.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]

Yeah they were stereotypical characters.

I don't think Bay is racist or hollywood. Its the "common" stereotypical belief that urban Black people act like that. And this was simply a case of those people regurgatating what they've been told and society has beaten into their minds.

It sure as hell is racist but I don't think they are racist. Its along the lines of hate the sin, not the sinner. Its what society and mainstream media have perputuated to the public as being "black" along with all the other stereotypes for the various different races, ethnicities, and classes.

I wish they hadn't of done it and while they were funny there are ways to achieve humor without having to continue to present these stereotypical images of a certain people. And please don't try to explain it away as part of the lore or plot in that they "learned it from the internet" because why couldn't they learn about W.E.B. Dubois or Fredrick Dougless? Fact is Bay had this image in his head and in an effort for comic relief relied on it to get laughs.

Its not a matter of "looking hard for racism" racism is pretty easy to spot and in 2009 people would like to be represented in manners other than their stereotypical ones.

JackMcSexbeard

I agree with this except for the bolded. I'm amazed that they actually put these charactors in it. They could have just made them different charactors, or you know, not robots which for some reason have ape- like features, act stoned, speak ebonics and are illiterate.

OMG, I completely forgot they were illiterate....SMH thats it I take back what I said Bay is a bonafide racist...

I'd say its pretty racist but not nearly as racist as THIS!:lol:

There were only two races in the movie and thats the human race and alien robot race.

Admit it they WERE sterotypical. They even used the N word for crying out loud!

You cannot deny that their was some minor racial stereotyping in that film for comedic affect in regards to the two red and green robots.

IndigoSunrise

Got to wonder how this kind of crap manages to make the news. A classic example of making a big deal out of nothing. Stupid media.

Those two robots were by far the worst characters in the movie. I was happy when one of them was killed but then... no he wasn't.

If you think about it, racism is in every single movie (even Snow White and the Seven Dwarves). And if you find the right movie, you can easily accuse it of racism because of one scene.

lol?

We mainstreamed the gold tooth, jive talking thing like it was something cool and badass and now we're embarrassed and offended by that crap? Some of us are still putting gold in our mouths and talking like that. That's offensive, not these two robots.

Lighten up people dang....

The only controversy I see is no nude Megan Fox scene.

Didn't stop me from watching it.

over reaction i say, there are far more racial stereotypically movies out there i.e gran torinomonkeyd_93

over reaction i say, there are far more racial stereotypically movies out there i.e gran torinomonkeyd_93

over reaction i say, there are far more racial stereotypically movies out there i.e gran torinomonkeyd_93

I think that the racism in that movie was intentional...

It's only a matter of time before Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson take up arms :roll:

It's only a matter of time before Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson take up arms :roll:

Shiggums

Do people get that bored and seek attention so much that they make a comparision of a robot being racists?

I literally facepalm at this stuff.

The only controversy I see is no nude Megan Fox scene.

immortality20

Lmao, you sir are correct.

Mind you, the slow motion bit when she was running wasn't half bad;)

some you guys are like whats the big deal... but was i saw where black stereotypes..which didn't have any point in the movie.... a gold tooth?, they can't read, and they faintly resemble monkeys?..yeah,, no.. we all have different opinions on this matter, oh and don't get me started how jazz (the black one) was the only one..and first to die in the first movie..maybe i'm looking to much into that one..but the twins that was just unneccessary..

umm...so it's wrong for robots to act like that but 90% of the people living on my street act like that....you may want to tell them....:?Omni-Slash

We mainstreamed the gold tooth, jive talking thing like it was something cool and badass and now we're embarrassed and offended by that crap? Some of us are still putting gold in our mouths and talking like that. That's offensive, not these two robots.

greeneye59

lol

Oh, and the obviously homosexual yellow robot isn't offensive?

Apparently, society has already forgotten the mediocre mid to late nineties when the majority of white kids at any given school would wear baggy pants, FUBU, Phatfarm, put "dubs" on their cars, and attempt to put gold in their "Grill".

For all we know, they were mocking the stereotypical whiteman's approach to african american culture.

I really think people dont know what racism is. Racism is hating another race for no reason other than they are another race. I dont see any of that in this film. Nice way to over react though.

I really think people dont know what racism is. Racism is hating another race for no reason other than they are another race. I dont see any of that in this film. Nice way to over react though.

magnax1