Turkey Invades Iraq

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#1 Gangans
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/06/turkey.iraq.ap/index.html

 

Several thousand Turkish troops crossed into northern Iraq early Wednesday to chase Kurdish guerrillas who attack Turkey from bases there, two Turkish security officials said. Turkey's foreign minister denied its troops had entered Iraq.

Two senior security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media, characterized the action as a limited "hot pursuit" raid. They told The Associated Press it did not constitute the kind of large incursion that Turkish leaders have been discussing in recent weeks as Turkish troops built up their force along the border.

One official said the troops went less than two miles inside Iraq and were still there in late afternoon. "It is a hot pursuit, not an incursion," one official said.

Another official said by telephone it was "not a major offensive and the number of troops is not in the tens of thousands." He also said the Turkish troops went into a remote, mountainous area.

The officials are based in southeast Turkey, where the military has been battling separatist Kurdish rebels since they took up arms in 1984.

The officials stood by their statement despite denials from Turkish and Iraqi officials.

Turkey's private NTV television quoted Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul as saying reports of a cross-border operation were false.

"There is no such thing, no entry to another country. If such a thing happens, then we would announce it," Gul said. "We are in a war with terror, we will do whatever is necessary to fight terrorism."

Several military officials at the Pentagon said they have seen nothing Wednesday that would confirm the reports of Turkish troops crossing the border into Iraq.

One military official said that small numbers of Turkish forces periodically move in and out of Iraq doing counterinsurgency operations, but not thousands at one time. The officials requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

While the U.S. has about 16,500 troops in northern Iraq, most of them are not right along the border. Many of those are training teams working with the Iraqi border patrols.

The White House said there has been "no new activity" in northern Iraq to justify the press reports. Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the White House's National Security Council, said that U.S. officials in the region have confirmed that the activity is a continuation of Turkey's years-long campaign against the Kurdish PKK guerrillas of Kurdistan Workers' Party.

"The Turkish government reports no new incursions into northern Iraq," Johndroe said. "U.S. officials on the ground confirm no new activity."

Johndroe said Washington remains "concerned about the PKK and the use of Iraq as a safe haven."

Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a military spokesman in Baghdad, said he could not confirm any Turkish troops were in Iraq but "we are looking into it and obviously we are very concerned."

The last major Turkish incursion into northern Iraq was in 1997, when about 50,000 troops were sent to the region.

The officials did not say where the Turkish force was operating in northern Iraq, nor did they say how long they would be there. Both officials are involved in anti-rebel operations, though they did not disclose whether they participated in the planning of the operation on Wednesday.

The officials said any confrontation with Iraqi Kurdish groups, who have warned against a Turkish incursion, could trigger a larger cross-border operation. The Turkish military has asked the government in Ankara to approve such an incursion, but the government has not given formal approval.

An official at military headquarters in Ankara declined to confirm or deny the report that Turkish troops had entered Iraq.

Turkish authorities rarely acknowledge such military operations, which were more frequent before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

The Turkish military said rebels across the border in Iraq opened fire Wednesday on a Turkish military outpost in the province of Hakkari, which borders both Iraq and Iran. It said there were no casualties.

Turkey has been building up its military forces on the Iraqi border recently, amid debate among political and military leaders about whether to attack separatist rebels of the PKK. The rebels stage raids in southeast Turkey after crossing over from hideouts in Iraq.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said the government has not seen any major operations along the border.

"There has been intermittent shelling, for instance, attacks, certain violations, minor violations on the border which we have documented and reported back to the Turkish side, but honestly we haven't seen any major operations along the border," Zebari told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

"We are aware of this Turkish troops buildup on the border and the Iraqi government position has been that we will not accept or tolerate any military incursion into Iraqi territories," he said.

During major incursions in the 1990s, fighting occurred on a front stretching more than 100 miles, mostly in rugged terrain where communications were difficult and the Turkish Kurds were entrenched in the mountains.

Kurds are about to get spanked.

 

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Well, let's look at it positively, while the Turks are away bullying the Kurds, the Armenians and Arameans will know some relative peace for awhile
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Well, let's look at it positively, while the Turks are away bullying the Kurds, the Armenians and Arameans will know some relative peace for awhile
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people still pay attention to armenians getting into fights? kidding!
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#4 Gangans
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At least turkey has a solid reason for their incursion into northern iraq, they put up with terrorist attacks on a weekly basis in the east of their country, and the kurds in northern iraq harbour these terrorists. It's not like turkey came from half the world away under some flimsy 'weapons of mass destruction' guise. :lol:
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[QUOTE="Avitu666"]Well, let's look at it positively, while the Turks are away bullying the Kurds, the Armenians and Arameans will know some relative peace for awhile
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people still pay attention to armenians getting into fights? kidding!


Armenians and Arameans don't get into fights. they are being oppressed by the Turks just because they're christians...

Of course, Turkey says this isn't true, and in the cities, that's probably relatively true, but outside big cities and turistic attractions, Armenians and Arameans are going through hell (I've been able to see this myself sadly) 

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"We are in a war with terror, we will do whatever is necessary to fight terrorism."

Hey that's Bush's line, get your own.

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"We are in a war with terror, we will do whatever is necessary to fight terrorism."

Hey that's Bush's line, get your own.

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For real...get your own one liners!
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This isn't what I'd call an invasion
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#9 Gangans
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it was an incursion, but it could very easily turn into an invasion if attacks in turkey continue.
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#10 Avitu666
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it was an incursion, but it could very easily turn into an invasion if attacks in turkey continue.Gangans

I don't think they will do that so easily.since the European Union would disagree, and Turkey wants to join the European union.

So an Invasion of Iraq is a big no-no. 

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If Turkey was going to invade Iraq they wouden't do it with the full force of the American military their.
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#12 Avitu666
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If Turkey was going to invade Iraq they wouden't do it with the full force of the American military their.Guiltfeeder566

 

Good point, especially since George W. Chimp isn't too fond of Muslims in general. He'd just throw them out on that basis.

Because he doesn't care about the Kurds (or anyone else for that matter) one bit 

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Sounds more like an expensive beach party then an invasion.
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Again, Turkey proves its disregard for international borders.
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There are long standing feuds between Turkey and the Kurds.  It relates to that.
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[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"]If Turkey was going to invade Iraq they wouden't do it with the full force of the American military their.Avitu666

 

Good point, especially since George W. Chimp isn't too fond of Muslims in general. He'd just throw them out on that basis.

Because he doesn't care about the Kurds (or anyone else for that matter) one bit 

Turkey is a strong ally of the US.  :|

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#17 Gangans
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If Turkey was going to invade Iraq they wouden't do it with the full force of the American military their.Guiltfeeder566

Turkey has the 2nd largest land force in nato, and they don't need to bring them by ship.

USA has around 20,000 troops in northern iraq, and another 150,000 spread out thin throughout the country. 

Turkey has 500,000 troops on the border with iraq, all armed with us/nato weaponry. They would be the ones kicking things out of iraq in this unlikely scenario.

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I still think the Canadians are going to take over the world.
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#19 Gangans
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I still think the Canadians are going to take over the world.Nick11478

Well duh, of course, is there anything canadians can't do? Nuff said.

 

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