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#1 RJay123
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/04/girl-buried-alive-turkey

"Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an "honour" killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman."

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#2 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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thats horrible

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That....Has got to be one of the worst ways to go. :(
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What a great way to start my Sunday night... that is awful.

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#5 KungfuKitten
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Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

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#6 RJay123
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Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

KungfuKitten

Reading through thre rest of the article, I think her father just didn't like the fact she had male friends

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That....Has got to be one of the worst ways to go. :(megagene
And having your relatives doing this to you... :|
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#8 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

RJay123

Reading through thre rest of the article, I think her father just didn't like the fact she had male friends

No, the honour killing thing is something of either culture or religion. It happens often, in my country as well recently. Not necessarily by burying alive though. Sometimes they just burn someone or so.
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#10 Gordon-Gekko
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Christ, the religion of peace is at it again. Poor girl.
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#11 albi321
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People shouldn't judge all of turkey based on this. Turkey is a secular state (Religion and Government are separated) and has been for a very long time. Just because someone is crazy, it does not represent the whole country. I know i've been there a couple of times.
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#12 T_P_O
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That's bloody barbaric.

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#13 hiphopballer
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poor girl :( thats kind of sick. who would do that to there family

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#14 PerfectCircles
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Just one of the many reasons islam should be banned, these sickos are worse than nazis

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Ignorant post is ignorant
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#15 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Sounds like fun..

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#16 krazy-blazer
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Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

KungfuKitten

Its against almost every Islamic Law to do that(I'm saying this because the majority of people in turkey are Muslims). Honor killings is something related to the old Arabian culture, It is done when your Sister Daughter or Wife talks to a man or has a relation ship with another man or something Similar. Although some people still do it in Arabian Countries, Even its against all of Arabian countries Law.

(Note I'm a Muslim from Kuwait and this wasn't intended to be Offensive.)

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#17 KungfuKitten
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People shouldn't judge all of turkey based on this. Turkey is a secular state (Religion and Government are separated) and has been for a very long time. Just because someone is crazy, it does not represent the whole country. I know i've been there a couple of times.albi321
I hope no barbaric acts represent any of us on GS. Someone has to say this, and i'm glad it was You albi, not me :P This is not turkey, or turkish people altogether. These people are simply horrid people. But i can't say it's a one man action. Their way of thinking is very much alive, and organised. We should stop the way of thinking through discussion, (re) education, media, freedom of speech and wealth in our countries. And let's also remember that everyone outside turkey should keep their hands off of turkey if this is the way they would want it to be. (Though i think that is not the case.. ?)
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#18 Toriko42
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Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

KungfuKitten
Islamic culture, it's stupid. It's a corruption of the religion but it's accepted.
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#19 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

Toriko42
Islamic culture, it's stupid. It's a corruption of the religion but it's accepted.

Did you even read my Post?
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#20 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

krazy-blazer
Its against almost every Islamic Law to do that(I'm saying this because the majority of people in turkey are Muslims). Honor killings is something related to the old Arabian culture, Although some people still do it in Arabian Countries, Even its against all of Arabian countries Law. (Note I'm a Muslim from Kuwait and this wasn't intended to be Offensive.)

Krazy-blazer when talking to me there is no need to say whether something is meant to be offensive. I don't mind taking offence at all. Truth is You live too far away and i am lazy so i can't use my claws. Ok so it is a culture thing. I am kind of glad, since muslims cannot use more of these violent acts attributed to their religion. There is already so much tension.
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#21 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

krazy-blazer
Islamic culture, it's stupid. It's a corruption of the religion but it's accepted.

Did you even read my Post?

Gah when I say Islamic it's interchangable with Middle Eastern, my bad It's Middle-Eastern Culture, not Islamic then to be more specific
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#22 Rainbow_Lion
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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"]

Just one of the many reasons islam should be banned, these sickos are worse than nazis

PerfectCircles
Ignorant post is ignorant

I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?
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#23 PerfectCircles
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[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"]

Just one of the many reasons islam should be banned, these sickos are worse than nazis

Rainbow_Lion
Ignorant post is ignorant

I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?

Lol wow so you can generalize millions of people based off the few you supposedly know. I highly doubt you know anything about Islam or many many Muslims like you claim.
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I laughed. Its what you get for talking to boys

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#25 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"]

Just one of the many reasons islam should be banned, these sickos are worse than nazis

Rainbow_Lion
Ignorant post is ignorant

I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?

Seems like you know many idiots but not any true muslims
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#26 8-Bitterness
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silly cultures taking religion and customs to the extreme...
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#27 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Does this have to do with the religion of peace, or is the honour killing stuff just turkish culture?

KungfuKitten
Its against almost every Islamic Law to do that(I'm saying this because the majority of people in turkey are Muslims). Honor killings is something related to the old Arabian culture, Although some people still do it in Arabian Countries, Even its against all of Arabian countries Law. (Note I'm a Muslim from Kuwait and this wasn't intended to be Offensive.)

Krazy-blazer when talking to me there is no need to say whether something is meant to be offensive. I don't mind taking offence at all. Truth is You live too far away and i am lazy so i can't use my claws. Ok so it is a culture thing. I am kind of glad, since muslims cannot use more of these violent acts attributed to their religion. There is already so much tension.

Islam comes from the word Peace in Arabic.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="PerfectCircles"] Ignorant post is ignorant

I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?

Seems like you know many idiots but not any true muslims

You're probably right, unfortunately London is full of idiots who think islam is a license to preach evil :( anything is dangerous in the wrong hands but even the liberal muslims I know seem to think that is's acceptable that 'prophet' muhammed liked to have sex with children :?
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="PerfectCircles"] Ignorant post is ignorant

I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?

Seems like you know many idiots but not any true muslims

I bet you know %25 of the world's population. Killing another innocent person on purpose is one of the most sinful acts in Islam, It is NOT acceptable in Arabian or Islamic culture.
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#30 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?Rainbow_Lion
Seems like you know many idiots but not any true muslims

You're probably right, unfortunately London is full of idiots who think islam is a license to preach evil :( anything is dangerous in the wrong hands but even the liberal muslims I know seem to think that is's acceptable that 'prophet' muhammed liked to have sex with children :?

The Ottoman Turks who were Muslims sold children into prostitution..

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] I know many many muslims and they all seem to think murder is acceptable so wind ur neck in little boy ok?Rainbow_Lion
Seems like you know many idiots but not any true muslims

Prophet muhammed did not have sex with children, He married them so the tribe could convert, They keep telling lies because Islam is the fastest spreading Religion. You're probably right, unfortunately London is full of idiots who think islam is a license to preach evil :( anything is dangerous in the wrong hands but even the liberal muslims I know seem to think that is's acceptable that 'prophet' muhammed liked to have sex with children :?

He did not have Sex with childern, Its a lie told by Islamphobists when Islam was spreading quickly.

He married them in order to convert there tribe.

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People shouldn't judge all of turkey based on this. Turkey is a secular state (Religion and Government are separated) and has been for a very long time. Just because someone is crazy, it does not represent the whole country. I know i've been there a couple of times.albi321
Same as some Christian parents refusing treatment for their child should not represent all Christians... Sad story regardless
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God sheesh, You are basing things on what Muslims did and not the Rules of Islam. Its like saying "I'm sure a christian person had sex with childern OH WAIT ALL CHRISTIANS HAVE SEX WITH CHILDERN, Look a Jew is killing his sister ITS BECAUSE JUDAISM SAYS YOU MUST KILL YOUR SISTER." (No offense again was just proving a point)
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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Seems like you know many idiots but not any true muslimskrazy-blazer
Prophet muhammed did not have sex with children, He married them so the tribe could convert, They keep telling lies because Islam is the fastest spreading Religion. You're probably right, unfortunately London is full of idiots who think islam is a license to preach evil :( anything is dangerous in the wrong hands but even the liberal muslims I know seem to think that is's acceptable that 'prophet' muhammed liked to have sex with children :?

You must be the only person in the World who doesn;t know what to "consumate" a marrige means and yeah she was like 9 years old at the time, if you like to worship that sort of thing then kindly keep it to yourself, if it were up to me you'd be in jail tbh
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God sheesh, You are basing things on what Muslims did and not the Rules of Islam. Its like saying "I'm sure a christian person had sex with childern OH WAIT ALL CHRISTIANS HAVE SEX WITH CHILDERN, Look a Jew is killing his sister ITS BECAUSE JUDAISM SAYS YOU MUST KILL YOUR SISTER." (No offense again was just proving a point)krazy-blazer

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]God sheesh, You are basing things on what Muslims did and not the Rules of Islam. Its like saying "I'm sure a christian person had sex with childern OH WAIT ALL CHRISTIANS HAVE SEX WITH CHILDERN, Look a Jew is killing his sister ITS BECAUSE JUDAISM SAYS YOU MUST KILL YOUR SISTER." (No offense again was just proving a point)Xx_Hopeless_xX

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.
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Thats so wrong.. sick people out there.

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You people don't know anything about the middle east do you? Your basing it on rumors people tell you or movies you saw. Countries evolve and Cultures change your speaking about things that were acceptable at least hundred years ago.
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]God sheesh, You are basing things on what Muslims did and not the Rules of Islam. Its like saying "I'm sure a christian person had sex with childern OH WAIT ALL CHRISTIANS HAVE SEX WITH CHILDERN, Look a Jew is killing his sister ITS BECAUSE JUDAISM SAYS YOU MUST KILL YOUR SISTER." (No offense again was just proving a point)krazy-blazer

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.

Actually the koran states that a mans wife or wives are his to do with what he wants, it's a very disturbing religion indeed in Iran and somalia to name two islamic states if a woman is raped then it is actually the woman who is punished for being unclean

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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

Rainbow_Lion

No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.

Actually the koran states that a manswife or wives are his to do with what he wants, it's a very disturbing religion indeed

Give me the name of the Verse, Because i know all of the Koran by heart and no Verse ever said that, Stop making up Crap if you don't even know the Religion.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]God sheesh, You are basing things on what Muslims did and not the Rules of Islam. Its like saying "I'm sure a christian person had sex with childern OH WAIT ALL CHRISTIANS HAVE SEX WITH CHILDERN, Look a Jew is killing his sister ITS BECAUSE JUDAISM SAYS YOU MUST KILL YOUR SISTER." (No offense again was just proving a point)krazy-blazer

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.

Oh, must have misinterpreted something then..but their is still sex slavery in the Middle East..

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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

Rainbow_Lion

No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.

Actually the koran states that a mans wife or wives are his to do with what he wants, it's a very disturbing religion indeed in Iran and somalia to name two islamic states if a woman is raped then it is actually the woman who is punished for being unclean

Kuwait,Saudi Arabia, Qatar,Egypt, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Algeria..ETC Need i say more?
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#43 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Isn't it an accepted practice somewhere in the Middle East for men to force their wives to have sex with them...?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.

Oh, must have misinterpreted something then..but their is still sex slavery in the Middle East..

There is Sex Slavery everywhere in the world Including USA and Oprah proves it.
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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] Actually the koran states that a manswife or wives are his to do with what he wants, it's a very disturbing religion indeed

And he's asking about the Middle East. By the way, the Quran says it goes both ways (the wife can ask her husband too).
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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.krazy-blazer

Actually the koran states that a manswife or wives are his to do with what he wants, it's a very disturbing religion indeed

Give me the name of the Verse, Because i know all of the Koran by heart and no Verse ever said that, Stop making up Crap if you don't even know the Religion.

Chapter 4 verse 34 brains, now go away http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nisa,_34
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#46 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.krazy-blazer

Oh, must have misinterpreted something then..but their is still sex slavery in the Middle East..

There is Sex Slavery everywhere in the world Including USA and Oprah proves it.

Oprah...really..

It's illegal here though...is it illegal in the middle east?..

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] No it is considered rape and you will go to jail for it.krazy-blazer

Oh, must have misinterpreted something then..but their is still sex slavery in the Middle East..

There is Sex Slavery everywhere in the world Including USA and Oprah proves it.

You are correct (sadly) though I would not use Oprah as a reference :P
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] Actually the koran states that a manswife or wives are his to do with what he wants, it's a very disturbing religion indeedRainbow_Lion

Give me the name of the Verse, Because i know all of the Koran by heart and no Verse ever said that, Stop making up Crap if you don't even know the Religion.

Chapter 4 verse 34 brains, now go away http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nisa,_34

Its said Women have to obedient but not to be forced into Sex, There are rules against that.
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#49 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Oh, must have misinterpreted something then..but their is still sex slavery in the Middle East..

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There is Sex Slavery everywhere in the world Including USA and Oprah proves it.

Oprah...really..

It's illegal here though...is it illegal in the middle east?..

Is that even a Question? Yes it is Illegal..You make it look like there are Shops "Selling Girls %50 Discount!"
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#50 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] There is Sex Slavery everywhere in the world Including USA and Oprah proves it.krazy-blazer

Oprah...really..

It's illegal here though...is it illegal in the middle east?..

Is that even a Question? Yes it is Illegal..You make it look like there are Shops "Selling Girls %50 Discount!"

That's a bit of an exaggeration..i was merely asking...as i only know that it was legal in the 11th century and such..