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#101 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

What are acts of terrorism? Trying to befriend other nations? Don't you believe that people who don't follow your religion are "infidels"?..And i don't see any lies..i provided reliable sources...

Rainbow_Lion

The Reliable source isn't Muslim. And 1.We don't kill infidels 2.Infidels means "Believer of Other Religion" In Arabic.

That's true you actually usually kill other muslims

And athiests kill other Athiests

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#102 Rainbow_Lion
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Its because we can't handle it anymore, We are being attacked from every corner, This is an example they keep flaming and attacking and making up lies, How much longer can we keep defending without attacking?krazy-blazer

What are acts of terrorism? Trying to befriend other nations? Don't you believe that people who don't follow your religion are "infidels"?..And i don't see any lies..i provided reliable sources...

Terrorism is AGAINST ISLAMIC RULES, Why do people do it? BECAUSE THEY ARE BRAIN WASHED, These "Al-Qaida" Take these people Isolate them and fill there head with Lies so that they think they are going to heaven. A Muslim himself will not commit an act of terrorism

Obviously :roll: so there's nothing in the qu'ran about murdering infidels?
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#103 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Its because we can't handle it anymore, We are being attacked from every corner, This is an example they keep flaming and attacking and making up lies, How much longer can we keep defending without attacking?krazy-blazer

What are acts of terrorism? Trying to befriend other nations? Don't you believe that people who don't follow your religion are "infidels"?..And i don't see any lies..i provided reliable sources...

The Reliable source isn't Muslim. And 1.We don't kill infidels 2.Infidels means "Believer of Other Religion" In Arabic.

I don't see you're religious people killing each other too often...and Infidel isn't exactly a "kind" term..it's rather condescending to be honest..

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Your religion is based on a guy that wanted to marry a baby...c'mon...justify that..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

A baby? Please don't over-exaggerate to prove your point.

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#105 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Your religion is based on a guy that wanted to marry a baby...c'mon...justify that..

Famiking

A baby? Please don't over-exaggerate to prove your point.

In the source it said baby, granted i'll look over that..

What about wanting to marry a 7 year old..?

That was NOT common back then..

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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

What are acts of terrorism? Trying to befriend other nations? Don't you believe that people who don't follow your religion are "infidels"?..And i don't see any lies..i provided reliable sources...

Rainbow_Lion

Terrorism is AGAINST ISLAMIC RULES, Why do people do it? BECAUSE THEY ARE BRAIN WASHED, These "Al-Qaida" Take these people Isolate them and fill there head with Lies so that they think they are going to heaven. A Muslim himself will not commit an act of terrorism

Obviously :roll: so there's nothing in the qu'ran about murdering infidels?

Killing another Innocent Person Muslim or not outside of war is a Sin.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] The Reliable source isn't Muslim. And 1.We don't kill infidels 2.Infidels means "Believer of Other Religion" In Arabic.krazy-blazer

That's true you actually usually kill other muslims

And athiests kill other Athiests

So? There's usually a good reason for it, I can't remember an infidel exploding themselves in a marketplace full of cilillians. There are plaenty who have died trying to defend muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Yugoslavia though, how ungrateful are you lot?
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Sick, Very Sick.

Religion of Peace FTW

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3966501/Muslim-groups-linked-to-September-11-hijackers-spark-fury-over-conference.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

http://www.zimbio.com/Malik+Nadal+Hasan/articles/fLheqx06RV5/Alleged+shooter+tied+mosque+9+11+hijackers

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/670

http://infidelsunite.typepad.com/counter_jihad/2010/01/egypt-police-arrest-muslim-murderers.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_pederastic_relationships#15th_century

The Wikipedia article has more.

I think that's sufficient for now.

krazy-blazer

For the last Godamn time, You miss my Godamn Point. If a Muslim does something it does not mean automatically That Its a Rule of Islam, It means a Bunch of Psycho muslims decided that blowing up will make them go to heaven, That is wrong and is not a rule of Islam. Its like saying A christian terrorist, Means Christianity supports Terrorism.

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28 )
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them ( 8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28 )
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an ( 8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels ( 8:60)

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

http://infidelsarecool.com/2006/12/28/overwhelming-evidence-of-i/

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

This is what the Qur'an says.

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YOu know, Islam is a branch of Judaism.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] So? There's usually a good reason for it, I can't remember an infidel exploding themselves in a marketplace full of cilillians. There are plaenty who have died trying to defend muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Yugoslavia though, how ungrateful are you lot?

No, you infidels don't go into the market place to blow yourself up. You prefer to get airplanes and bomb cities instead and say "i think there were some terrorists there, idk". You killed more than you saved, why should we be thankful?
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Your religion is based on a guy that wanted to marry a baby...c'mon...justify that..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

A baby? Please don't over-exaggerate to prove your point.

In the source it said baby, granted i'll look over that..

What about wanting to marry a 7 year old..?

That was NOT common back then..

He Technically married here when she was 9 years old, He didn't ask to marry her, The chief of the tribe told him if he married his daughter the tribe would convert to islam.
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#112 RJay123
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Wow! I never read most of what Snipes_2 just posted......all those passages are pretty sick

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#113 Rainbow_Lion
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Sick, Very Sick.

Religion of Peace FTW

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3966501/Muslim-groups-linked-to-September-11-hijackers-spark-fury-over-conference.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

http://www.zimbio.com/Malik+Nadal+Hasan/articles/fLheqx06RV5/Alleged+shooter+tied+mosque+9+11+hijackers

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/670

http://infidelsunite.typepad.com/counter_jihad/2010/01/egypt-police-arrest-muslim-murderers.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_pederastic_relationships#15th_century

The Wikipedia article has more.

I think that's sufficient for now.

Snipes_2

For the last Godamn time, You miss my Godamn Point. If a Muslim does something it does not mean automatically That Its a Rule of Islam, It means a Bunch of Psycho muslims decided that blowing up will make them go to heaven, That is wrong and is not a rule of Islam. Its like saying A christian terrorist, Means Christianity supports Terrorism.

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

http://infidelsarecool.com/2006/12/28/overwhelming-evidence-of-i/

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

This is what the Qur'an says.

This guy has pretty much destroyed islam right there :lol: it is a sick out dated religion of no interest to sane people funnitly enough it's highly attractive to rapists,murderers,terrorists,peadophiles,racists and sickos in general. I wonder why?

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#114 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] A baby? Please don't over-exaggerate to prove your point.

krazy-blazer

In the source it said baby, granted i'll look over that..

What about wanting to marry a 7 year old..?

That was NOT common back then..

He Technically married here when she was 9 years old, He didn't ask to marry her, The chief of the tribe told him if he married his daughter the tribe would convert to islam.

Oh that makes it all better right..:roll:..

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#115 Snipes_2
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YOu know, Islam is a branch of Judaism.

master_hookshot

No it isn't.

http://www.allaboutreligion.org/origin-of-islam.htm

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#116 master_hookshot
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Trolls be trolling. I bet not one of you can remember the original topic.

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#117 Famiking
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(...) Snipes_2
I stopped reading at the first verse. I hope no one actually believes this guy. He literally took half the verse and posted it. It's like taking the verse "Never murder anyone" and just posting "murder anyone". -_- How desperate can you get?
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#118 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Sick, Very Sick.

Religion of Peace FTW

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3966501/Muslim-groups-linked-to-September-11-hijackers-spark-fury-over-conference.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

http://www.zimbio.com/Malik+Nadal+Hasan/articles/fLheqx06RV5/Alleged+shooter+tied+mosque+9+11+hijackers

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/670

http://infidelsunite.typepad.com/counter_jihad/2010/01/egypt-police-arrest-muslim-murderers.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_pederastic_relationships#15th_century

The Wikipedia article has more.

I think that's sufficient for now.

Snipes_2

For the last Godamn time, You miss my Godamn Point. If a Muslim does something it does not mean automatically That Its a Rule of Islam, It means a Bunch of Psycho muslims decided that blowing up will make them go to heaven, That is wrong and is not a rule of Islam. Its like saying A christian terrorist, Means Christianity supports Terrorism.

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28 )
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them ( 8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28 )
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an ( 8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels ( 8:60)

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

http://infidelsarecool.com/2006/12/28/overwhelming-evidence-of-i/

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

This is what the Qur'an says.

Those were translated wrong and out of Context.

Also

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] (...) Famiking
I stopped reading at the first verse. I hope no one actually believes this guy. He literally took half the verse and posted it. It's like taking the verse "Never murder anyone" and just posting "murder anyone". -_- How desperate can you get?

How do you come to that conclusion!? They look pretty well formed to me...

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This guy has pretty much destroyed islam right there :lol: it is a sick out dated religion of no interest to sane people funnitly enough it's highly attractive to rapists,murderers,terrorists,peadophiles,racists and sickos in general. I wonder why?

Rainbow_Lion

I believe the saying goes "Blind leading the blind".

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] (...) Famiking
I stopped reading at the first verse. I hope no one actually believes this guy. He literally took half the verse and posted it. It's like taking the verse "Never murder anyone" and just posting "murder anyone". -_- How desperate can you get?

Okay, Please, Finish the "Half Verses" then. And post your source info.

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[QUOTE="master_hookshot"]

YOu know, Islam is a branch of Judaism.

Snipes_2

No it isn't.

http://www.allaboutreligion.org/origin-of-islam.htm

Lulz. yes it is, even though its huge.

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#123 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] (...) Xx_Hopeless_xX

I stopped reading at the first verse. I hope no one actually believes this guy. He literally took half the verse and posted it. It's like taking the verse "Never murder anyone" and just posting "murder anyone". -_- How desperate can you get?

How do you come to that conclusion!? They look pretty well formed to me...

I only read the first verse and I can tell you it was taken out of context. It was in the context of a historical war that took place. Read it for yourself, there are many translations of the Quran online, search those verses.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] For the last Godamn time, You miss my Godamn Point. If a Muslim does something it does not mean automatically That Its a Rule of Islam, It means a Bunch of Psycho muslims decided that blowing up will make them go to heaven, That is wrong and is not a rule of Islam. Its like saying A christian terrorist, Means Christianity supports Terrorism.krazy-blazer

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28 )
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them ( 8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28 )
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an ( 8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels ( 8:60)

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

http://infidelsarecool.com/2006/12/28/overwhelming-evidence-of-i/

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

This is what the Qur'an says.

Those were translated wrong and out of Context.

Also

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Well, Using that same argument. Those quotes you took are wrong and out of context as well.

None of those say to kill Infidels are anyone at all actually. One line near the end, compared to the 15+ I posted? YOu didn't cite a source either.

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Got on to Gamespot during halftime and I had to come to this thread. It made me realize while I'm having fun watching football, some poor girl gets buried by her own father and grandfather for having male friends. This act is deplorable though not surprised. Honor killings are common in the middle east and there were even cases in the western world.

Also Honor killings aren't exclusive to Muslims. Since this was in southeastern Turkey, the prepatrators were probably Kurds and probably Yazidi (which is very different from Islam). The article makes no mention of weather this was the work of Muslims or Yazidi so I don't understand why everyone is critizing Islam. :?

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#126 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] I stopped reading at the first verse. I hope no one actually believes this guy. He literally took half the verse and posted it. It's like taking the verse "Never murder anyone" and just posting "murder anyone". -_- How desperate can you get?Famiking

How do you come to that conclusion!? They look pretty well formed to me...

I only read the first verse and I can tell you it was taken out of context. It was in the context of a historical war that took place. Read it for yourself, there are many translations of the Quran online, search those verses.

Oh because this one doesn't portray your religion in a sparkling light it's "out of context" and "translated wrong" ?..

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#127 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="master_hookshot"]

YOu know, Islam is a branch of Judaism.

master_hookshot

No it isn't.

http://www.allaboutreligion.org/origin-of-islam.htm

Lulz. yes it is, even though its huge.

Did you read the source information I posted? IT was created in 600 A.D., Can you post a source or something proving it is a branch of Jadaism?

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] This guy has pretty much destroyed islam right there :lol: it is a sick out dated religion of no interest to sane people funnitly enough it's highly attractive to rapists,murderers,terrorists,peadophiles,racists and sickos in general. I wonder why?

Famiking

I believe the saying goes "Blind leading the blind".

Hmm? I'm sure you'll feel just fine when some of his ilk detonate a bomb in front of you ay?
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#129 master_hookshot
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Got on to Gamespot during halftime and I had to come to this thread. It made me realize while I'm having fun watching football, some poor girl gets buried by her own father and grandfather for having male friends. This act is deplorable though not surprised. Honor killings are common in the middle east and there were even cases in the western world.

Also Honor killings aren't exclusive to Muslims. Since this was in southeastern Turkey, the prepatrators were probably Kurds and probably Yazidi (which is very different from Islam). The article makes no mention of weather this was the work of Muslims or Yazidi so I don't understand why everyone is critizing Islam. :?

leviathan91

OMFG!! Something relevant to the original topic! You get an internet, good sir/ma'am.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] This guy has pretty much destroyed islam right there :lol: it is a sick out dated religion of no interest to sane people funnitly enough it's highly attractive to rapists,murderers,terrorists,peadophiles,racists and sickos in general. I wonder why?

Famiking

I believe the saying goes "Blind leading the blind".

You want to wonder why? Alright Because 1.It is not True, Most people just want to flame Islam and agree on Lies. 2.Because Islam has poor countries, Christians and jewish people take that to there advantage to show "How islam attracts Murders,Rapists,terrorist,PedoPhiles,Racists,Sickos"
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Oh because this one doesn't portray your religion in a sparkling light it's "out of context" and "translated wrong" ?..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Congrats on missing the point.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] This guy has pretty much destroyed islam right there :lol: it is a sick out dated religion of no interest to sane people funnitly enough it's highly attractive to rapists,murderers,terrorists,peadophiles,racists and sickos in general. I wonder why?

Rainbow_Lion

I believe the saying goes "Blind leading the blind".

Hmm? I'm sure you'll feel just fine when some of his ilk detonate a bomb in front of you ay?

For all i care the next Suicide bomber can be an Atheist.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] Hmm? I'm sure you'll feel just fine when some of his ilk detonate a bomb in front of you ay?

What does that have to do with anything? Sorry, you're getting very desperate.
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[QUOTE="master_hookshot"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No it isn't.

http://www.allaboutreligion.org/origin-of-islam.htm

Snipes_2

Lulz. yes it is, even though its huge.

Did you read the source information I posted? IT was created in 600 A.D., Can you post a source or something proving it is a branch of Jadaism?

Did you read the source you posted? It said nothing about that. Ishmael, founder of Islam, was a son of Abraham.

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You see? Like i said this is the way in Every case. Islam is an easy target because it doesn't attack other Religions.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

How do you come to that conclusion!? They look pretty well formed to me...

Xx_Hopeless_xX

I only read the first verse and I can tell you it was taken out of context. It was in the context of a historical war that took place. Read it for yourself, there are many translations of the Quran online, search those verses.

Oh because this one doesn't portray your religion in a sparkling light it's "out of context" and "translated wrong" ?..

Because it takes everything bad in my Religion it isn't?

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] I only read the first verse and I can tell you it was taken out of context. It was in the context of a historical war that took place. Read it for yourself, there are many translations of the Quran online, search those verses.krazy-blazer

Oh because this one doesn't portray your religion in a sparkling light it's "out of context" and "translated wrong" ?..

Because it takes everything bad in my Religion it isn't?

It's proving a point...they're verses in your holy book that blatantly call for the annihilation of "infidels"..

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Oh because this one doesn't portray your religion in a sparkling light it's "out of context" and "translated wrong" ?..

Famiking

Congrats on missing the point.

Oh if that wasn't your point then what was..?

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You see? Like i said this is the way in Every case. Islam is an easy target because it doesn't attack other Religions.

krazy-blazer

You're kidding right...?

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And yet you keep Attacking my Religion for some reason
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

You see? Like i said this is the way in Every case. Islam is an easy target because it doesn't attack other Religions.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

You're kidding right...?

No I'm not. How can we insult Christianity when we believe in Jesus? Or as we say Prophet Issa. How can we insult Judaism when we Believe in David? or as we say Prophet Musa.
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#142 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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And yet you keep Attacking my Religion for some reasonkrazy-blazer

I seem remember you attacking Christianity earlier in the thread when it was completely irrelevant...and also, way to cop out..

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

You see? Like i said this is the way in Every case. Islam is an easy target because it doesn't attack other Religions.

krazy-blazer

You're kidding right...?

No I'm not. How can we insult Christianity when we believe in Jesus? Or as we say Prophet Issa. How can we insult Judaism when we Believe in David? or as we say Prophet Musa.

You just did earlier in the thread what are you talking about ?!

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="master_hookshot"]

Lulz. yes it is, even though its huge.

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Did you read the source information I posted? IT was created in 600 A.D., Can you post a source or something proving it is a branch of Jadaism?

Did you read the source you posted? It said nothing about that. Ishmael, founder of Islam, was a son of Abraham.

That doesn't necessarily mean he was Jewish.

"Islamic traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of northern Arab people,[1] while Jewish traditions are split between those who consider Ishmael their ancestor and those, like Maimonides, who believe that the northern Arabs are descended from the sons of Keturah, whom Abraham married after Sarah's death. Judaism has generally viewed Ishmael as wicked though repentant.[1] Judaism maintains that Isaac (the father of the Jewish people) rather than Ishmael was the true heir of Abraham."

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How was i attacking Christianity? By saying that verse? That wasn't attacking that was just showing that if Christianity isn't evil we aren't. Attacking means you calling MY prophet, The one i believed and followed a Pedophile.
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

You're kidding right...?

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No I'm not. How can we insult Christianity when we believe in Jesus? Or as we say Prophet Issa. How can we insult Judaism when we Believe in David? or as we say Prophet Musa.

You just did earlier in the thread what are you talking about ?!

I never insulted any religion, Except Atheism once. I used Christianity and Judaism to prove my point.
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How was i attacking Christianity? By saying that verse? That wasn't attacking that was just showing that if Christianity isn't evil we aren't. Attacking means you calling MY prophet, The one i believed and followed a Pedophile.krazy-blazer

Trying to prove it wrong randomly...out of the blue...and, according to you...your religion is being attacked when only truths have been posted...so theoretically i could say you were attacking Christianity unprovoked..

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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]How was i attacking Christianity? By saying that verse? That wasn't attacking that was just showing that if Christianity isn't evil we aren't. Attacking means you calling MY prophet, The one i believed and followed a Pedophile.Xx_Hopeless_xX

Trying to prove it wrong randomly...out of the blue...and, according to you...your religion is being attacked when only truths have been posted...so theoretically i could say you were attacking Christianity unprovoked..

God...I'm saying the same thing 3 times. How would anyone know that Prophet mohammad enjoyed have sex with Children? He married one for complete other reasons.
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]How was i attacking Christianity? By saying that verse? That wasn't attacking that was just showing that if Christianity isn't evil we aren't. Attacking means you calling MY prophet, The one i believed and followed a Pedophile.Xx_Hopeless_xX

Trying to prove it wrong randomly...out of the blue...and, according to you...your religion is being attacked when only truths have been posted...so theoretically i could say you were attacking Christianity unprovoked..

I could have used any Religion, But they popped on top of my head
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]How was i attacking Christianity? By saying that verse? That wasn't attacking that was just showing that if Christianity isn't evil we aren't. Attacking means you calling MY prophet, The one i believed and followed a Pedophile.krazy-blazer

Trying to prove it wrong randomly...out of the blue...and, according to you...your religion is being attacked when only truths have been posted...so theoretically i could say you were attacking Christianity unprovoked..

God...I'm saying the same thing 3 times. How would anyone know that Prophet mohammad enjoyed have sex with Children? He married one for complete other reasons.

And i have been saying he still HAD SEX WITH A 9 YEAR old...just because he may have not "liked" it doesn't change the fact that having sex with a 9 year old is pedophilia..