Who is the best?
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Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
Has he gone against GSP yet?Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
byof_america
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
Chuck Norris.
Xomonuchi
Lol Norris would get his !@# kicked in the octagon
OT : Randy Couture
Yeh, GSP could rip him up.B.J. Penn and Arianny Celeste are the best things in UFC, IMO.
shoot-first
lulz agreed about Arianny Celeste. Not about BJ though, smack talker who quit on his stool against GSP, whom he lost twice to.
Anyway, it's either between GSP and m'boi Anderson Silva. Would love to see those two fight.
[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]Where is BMD004 and his support for St P ...I am disappoint Spider BTWBMD004If that dude would know anything about fighting, he'd know that there are still people in this world that have never been in the ring that can cut an entire stack of bricks in two... imagine what they could do to those UFC fighters. Brick-breaking is a novelty. If you knew anything about fighting, you would know that breaking bricks means absolutely nothing. Most of the time when you see these brick breakers, it's middle aged white men. You think they could rough up a UFC fighter? On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.
Brick-breaking is a novelty. If you knew anything about fighting, you would know that breaking bricks means absolutely nothing. Most of the time when you see these brick breakers, it's middle aged white men. You think they could rough up a UFC fighter? On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break. Once again, breaking bricks has nothing to do with fighting. And give me a square shot to your ribcage and let me put full force into it and I could break a rib, also. Discovery channel is all about theoretical scenarios. Theoretically, the force he generated *could* break a rib.. but so what? Just last fight GSP broke Koscheck's orbital bone with a jab with gloves on. Rich Franklin broke his arm by blocking some of Chuck Liddell's shots. Breaking bricks is one of those things that look way tougher than it is. I'm not going to say it is easy, but if some middle aged white men can do it, what makes you think UFC fighters couldn't if they practiced?[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"] If that dude would know anything about fighting, he'd know that there are still people in this world that have never been in the ring that can cut an entire stack of bricks in two... imagine what they could do to those UFC fighters.SkyWard20
P.S... I'm not a scientist, but I don't think bricks are harder than bones.
On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break. Once again, breaking bricks has nothing to do with fighting. And give me a square shot to your ribcage and let me put full force into it and I could break a rib, also. Discovery channel is all about theoretical scenarios. Theoretically, the force he generated *could* break a rib.. but so what? Just last fight GSP broke Koscheck's orbital bone with a jab with gloves on. Rich Franklin broke his arm by blocking some of Chuck Liddell's shots. Breaking bricks is one of those things that look way tougher than it is. I'm not going to say it is easy, but if some middle aged white men can do it, what makes you think UFC fighters couldn't if they practiced?[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]
[QUOTE="BMD004"] Brick-breaking is a novelty. If you knew anything about fighting, you would know that breaking bricks means absolutely nothing. Most of the time when you see these brick breakers, it's middle aged white men. You think they could rough up a UFC fighter?BMD004
P.S... I'm not a scientist, but I don't think bricks are harder than bones.
I think it depends on the bricks, idk. But IMO some fighters who don't compete in the UFC have a crazy level of fitness that could put some prominent UFC fighters to shame.. Walking on walls, finger-push ups, running up hills with bolders on their shoulders almost as big as them, etc. Just look at what Bruce Lee could do: Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second.[76] Lee could take in one arm a 75 lb barbell from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest and slowly stick his arms out locking them, holding the barbell there for several seconds.[77] In a speed demonstration, Lee could snatch a dime off a person's open palm before they could close it, and leave a penny behind.[78] Lee would hold an elevated v-sit position for 30 minutes or longer.[74] Lee could throw grains of rice up into the air and then catch them in mid-flight using chopsticks.[79] Lee performed one-hand push-ups using only the thumb and index finger.[75][79][80] Lee performed 50 reps of one-arm chin-ups.[81] Lee could cause a 300-lb (136.08 kg) bag to fly towards and thump the ceiling with a sidekick.[75][QUOTE="BMD004"]Once again, breaking bricks has nothing to do with fighting. And give me a square shot to your ribcage and let me put full force into it and I could break a rib, also. Discovery channel is all about theoretical scenarios. Theoretically, the force he generated *could* break a rib.. but so what? Just last fight GSP broke Koscheck's orbital bone with a jab with gloves on. Rich Franklin broke his arm by blocking some of Chuck Liddell's shots. Breaking bricks is one of those things that look way tougher than it is. I'm not going to say it is easy, but if some middle aged white men can do it, what makes you think UFC fighters couldn't if they practiced?[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.
SkyWard20
P.S... I'm not a scientist, but I don't think bricks are harder than bones.
I think it depends on the bricks, idk. But IMO some fighters who don't compete in the UFC have a crazy level of fitness that could put some prominent UFC fighters to shame.. Walking on walls, finger-push ups, running up hills with bolders on their shoulders almost as big as them, etc. Just look at what Bruce Lee could do: Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second.[76] Lee could take in one arm a 75 lb barbell from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest and slowly stick his arms out locking them, holding the barbell there for several seconds.[77] In a speed demonstration, Lee could snatch a dime off a person's open palm before they could close it, and leave a penny behind.[78] Lee would hold an elevated v-sit position for 30 minutes or longer.[74] Lee could throw grains of rice up into the air and then catch them in mid-flight using chopsticks.[79] Lee performed one-hand push-ups using only the thumb and index finger.[75][79][80] Lee performed 50 reps of one-arm chin-ups.[81] Lee could cause a 300-lb (136.08 kg) bag to fly towards and thump the ceiling with a sidekick.[75] Whats the point of running up hills and walking on walls when a UFC fighter can just pin you down to submission?[QUOTE="BMD004"]Once again, breaking bricks has nothing to do with fighting. And give me a square shot to your ribcage and let me put full force into it and I could break a rib, also. Discovery channel is all about theoretical scenarios. Theoretically, the force he generated *could* break a rib.. but so what? Just last fight GSP broke Koscheck's orbital bone with a jab with gloves on. Rich Franklin broke his arm by blocking some of Chuck Liddell's shots. Breaking bricks is one of those things that look way tougher than it is. I'm not going to say it is easy, but if some middle aged white men can do it, what makes you think UFC fighters couldn't if they practiced?[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.
SkyWard20
P.S... I'm not a scientist, but I don't think bricks are harder than bones.
I think it depends on the bricks, idk. But IMO some fighters who don't compete in the UFC have a crazy level of fitness that could put some prominent UFC fighters to shame.. Walking on walls, finger-push ups, running up hills with bolders on their shoulders almost as big as them, etc. Just look at what Bruce Lee could do: Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second.[76] Lee could take in one arm a 75 lb barbell from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest and slowly stick his arms out locking them, holding the barbell there for several seconds.[77] In a speed demonstration, Lee could snatch a dime off a person's open palm before they could close it, and leave a penny behind.[78] Lee would hold an elevated v-sit position for 30 minutes or longer.[74] Lee could throw grains of rice up into the air and then catch them in mid-flight using chopsticks.[79] Lee performed one-hand push-ups using only the thumb and index finger.[75][79][80] Lee performed 50 reps of one-arm chin-ups.[81] Lee could cause a 300-lb (136.08 kg) bag to fly towards and thump the ceiling with a sidekick.[75] First of all, those are all "gimmicks". And secondly, I don't believe half of those things it is said that Bruce Lee could do. I've seen Bruce Lee's sidekicks, and they weren't that powerful... I would bet my life that Bruce could not kick a 300 pound heavy bag to the ceiling with any kind of kick. That is laugh out loud hilarious how he got pumped up to these mythical proportions. Snatch a dime and leave a penny behind before they could close their hand? Come on... that is like a chuck norris joke. His punches weren't all that fast, either. You would be surprised at how fast you can punch when all your are doing is throwing quick rabbit punches. 2 finger push-ups, walking up walls, carrying boulders, etc... it's all just gimmicks to make martial arts seem mythical.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="BMD004"] You're obsessed with me. I'm flattered.BMD004I love your posts. They bring me much joy here and on other sites. TBH, I think you and BluRayHighDef are the funniest users on this site. -and now that BRHD has left OT, all I have left to entertain me is you Though I wonder if you have google alerts....will need to conduct further tests on this hypothesis Your posts also bring me much joy. They're really interesting. P.s. "They bring me much joy here and on other sites"... what other sites? TDH (the daily happening) We often discuss the best and brightest of GS. In fact, we strive to: a. honor them for their contributions b. make sure they are known so that others can read their 'little pearls of wisdom'
I haven't watched since season 3 i think, but, what happend to Diego Sanchez? i remember people saying he was really good.
Well, the TS wasn't talking about the show "The Ultimate Fighter"... he meant who is the best fighter in the UFC. But regardless, Diego did decent. Then he moved to lightweight and worked his way to getting a title shot against BJ Penn. He got destroyed by BJ. Moved back up to welterweight and recently had an impressive win against Paulo Thiago. Next up for him is Martin Kampmann, who is arguably one of the top 5 fighters in the division, and definitely in the top 10.I haven't watched since season 3 i think, but, what happend to Diego Sanchez? i remember people saying he was really good.
madsnakehhh
Well, the TS wasn't talking about the show "The Ultimate Fighter"... he meant who is the best fighter in the UFC. But regardless, Diego did decent. Then he moved to lightweight and worked his way to getting a title shot against BJ Penn. He got destroyed by BJ. Moved back up to welterweight and recently had an impressive win against Paulo Thiago. Next up for him is Martin Kampmann, who is arguably one of the top 5 fighters in the division, and definitely in the top 10.[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]
I haven't watched since season 3 i think, but, what happend to Diego Sanchez? i remember people saying he was really good.
BMD004
Oh, my bad then :P.
Anyway, yeah, Diego was pretty domminant in the show, so it's nice to know he is still around.
On topic, well, i'm not an expert in UFC, but i always though Rich Franklin was damn good, too bad injuries have keep him away, still, i hear he will be figthing in february against Forrest Griffin, now, that's going to be a good fight.
I've also seen a little about this guy Lyoto Machida, he has been so dominant too with only 1 loss.
Again, i'm no expert but i like to watch some fights once in a while.
Which fighters have you seen if you think it's boring?Yep, still don't see the appeal in UFC. Boring.
carrot-cake
Not really. Sonnen was working him until he slipped up and had to tap out.Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
byof_america
Out of these choices, I'm going to go with St-Pierre. He's completely outc|assed every opponent to come up against him for quite a while. And why is BJ Penn on this list and not Frankie Edgar?
Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
byof_america
I guess you didn't watch UFC 117.
On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.byof_america
So why don't a bunch of brick breakers join the UFC, kick the s*** out of all the fighters there, and make millions of dollars? There are lots of brick breakers, and beating any mixed martial artist is apparently an easy thing for them, so why has this not occured?
[QUOTE="byof_america"]Not really. Sonnen was working him until he slipped up and had to tap out. Sonnen, who was doping, couldn't finish SIlva, who was hurt, even after dominating the fight for over twenty minutes. Silva embarrassed Sonnen with that choke and Sonnen would get demolished if they fought again. I agree with Silva though. Sonnen doesn't deserve a rematch. Silva went through family issues, as well. Sonnen was lucky he had all of those in his favor.Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
BreakTheseLinks
Out of these choices, I'm going to go with St-Pierre. He's completely outc|assed every opponent to come up against him for quite a while. And why is BJ Penn on this list and not Frankie Edgar?
[quote="byof_america"]
Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
Palantas
I guess you didn't watch UFC 117.
On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.byof_america
So why don't a bunch of brick breakers join the UFC, kick the s*** out of all the fighters there, and make millions of dollars? There are lots of brick breakers, and beating any mixed martial artist is apparently an easy thing for them, so why has this not occured?
WELL maybe those "BRICK-BREAKERS", as you put it, are not interested in money/fame. Nothing wrong with living a humble life. They probably know how to use their strength when it comes to defending their family/friends far better than those UFC fighters. Fighting a real fight is not like a ring fight, y'know. There's a difference between throwing kicks and hurling yourself at an opponent, cooped up in a ring and having to deal with an enemy that uses his/her surroundings, like in a REAL fight.In fact, if you'd know ANYTHING about fighting, you would also AT THE VERY LEAST admit that there MIGHT still be great fighters like Bruce Lee who could probably put most UFC fighters to shame. The kind of people that you don't find in a ring. ;)
WELL maybe those "BRICK-BREAKERS", as you put it, are not interested in money/fame. Nothing wrong with living a humble life. They probably know how to use their strength when it comes to defending their family/friends far better than those UFC fighters. Fighting a real fight is not like a ring fight, y'know. There's a difference between throwing kicks and hurling yourself at an opponent, cooped up in a ring and having to deal with an enemy that uses his/her surroundings, like in a REAL fight.In fact, if you'd know ANYTHING about fighting, you would also AT THE VERY LEAST admit that there MIGHT still be great fighters like Bruce Lee who could probably put most UFC fighters to shame. The kind of people that you don't find in a ring. ;)SkyWard20
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Anyway, I'll go GSP right now but before the Sonnen fight I probably would of said Silva. It's all about form, there's no one better fighter than all the rest. The P4P rankings are BS. Also, Sonnen wasn't using performance enhancers, he was taking hormone supplements or something. He had some deficiency and thought it was cleared with the commission but the UFC didn't pass the information on... some sort of mix up. Still glad he lost, although it was a great fight.
[QUOTE="Palantas"]
Out of these choices, I'm going to go with St-Pierre. He's completely outc|assed every opponent to come up against him for quite a while. And why is BJ Penn on this list and not Frankie Edgar?
[quote="byof_america"]
Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
SkyWard20
I guess you didn't watch UFC 117.
On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.byof_america
So why don't a bunch of brick breakers join the UFC, kick the s*** out of all the fighters there, and make millions of dollars? There are lots of brick breakers, and beating any mixed martial artist is apparently an easy thing for them, so why has this not occured?
, you would also AT THE VERY LEAST admit that there MIGHT still be great fighters like Bruce Lee who could probably put most UFC fighters to shame. The kind of people that you don't find in a ring. ;)[QUOTE="Palantas"]
Out of these choices, I'm going to go with St-Pierre. He's completely outc|assed every opponent to come up against him for quite a while. And why is BJ Penn on this list and not Frankie Edgar?
[quote="byof_america"]
Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
SkyWard20
I guess you didn't watch UFC 117.
On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.byof_america
So why don't a bunch of brick breakers join the UFC, kick the s*** out of all the fighters there, and make millions of dollars? There are lots of brick breakers, and beating any mixed martial artist is apparently an easy thing for them, so why has this not occured?
WELL maybe those "BRICK-BREAKERS", as you put it, are not interested in money/fame. Nothing wrong with living a humble life. They probably know how to use their strength when it comes to defending their family/friends far better than those UFC fighters. Fighting a real fight is not like a ring fight, y'know. There's a difference between throwing kicks and hurling yourself at an opponent, cooped up in a ring and having to deal with an enemy that uses his/her surroundings, like in a REAL fight.In fact, if you'd know ANYTHING about fighting, you would also AT THE VERY LEAST admit that there MIGHT still be great fighters like Bruce Lee who could probably put most UFC fighters to shame. The kind of people that you don't find in a ring. ;)
I don't understand why so many people love Bruce Lee. Yes he has created some pretty cool techniques like the "1 inch punch" but I think if you put him up against some of these UFC fighters today he would be easily defeated. You got to remember he was still an actor yes he trained professionally but he was more about gimmicks then anything.[QUOTE="Palantas"]
Out of these choices, I'm going to go with St-Pierre. He's completely outc|assed every opponent to come up against him for quite a while. And why is BJ Penn on this list and not Frankie Edgar?
[quote="byof_america"]
Silva has gotten to the point where he can just toy with people like a cat batting around a mouse. As much as I'd hate to say it, I think he's the best.
SkyWard20
I guess you didn't watch UFC 117.
On what basis do you discredit their ability to break matter that can be even harder than stacks upon stacks of bones? I don't remember on what channel it was -- maybe Discovery channel -- I dunno, there was a doctor or something who would measure the hit impact of a martial artist. He wasn't as big as these UFC fighters are... quite the contrary, actually. After measuring the force of the impact, the doctor said that if his punch would hit him ( the doctor ), his ribcage could possibly break.byof_america
So why don't a bunch of brick breakers join the UFC, kick the s*** out of all the fighters there, and make millions of dollars? There are lots of brick breakers, and beating any mixed martial artist is apparently an easy thing for them, so why has this not occured?
WELL maybe those "BRICK-BREAKERS", as you put it, are not interested in money/fame. Nothing wrong with living a humble life. They probably know how to use their strength when it comes to defending their family/friends far better than those UFC fighters. Fighting a real fight is not like a ring fight, y'know. There's a difference between throwing kicks and hurling yourself at an opponent, cooped up in a ring and having to deal with an enemy that uses his/her surroundings, like in a REAL fight.In fact, if you'd know ANYTHING about fighting, you would also AT THE VERY LEAST admit that there MIGHT still be great fighters like Bruce Lee who could probably put most UFC fighters to shame. The kind of people that you don't find in a ring. ;)
Breakers come mostly from Karate and Taekwondo... both of which have long been proven to be pretty useless in an actual fight. I'm not going to say useless... because I think Karate or Taekwondo can help make somebody a better fighter. But on their own, nobody will be super effective with karate or taekwondo alone. And you show your ignorance when you say fighters "throw some kicks and hurl themselves at their opponents". You obviously don't understand the technicalities of what is going on or have never actually watched a full fight. Sure, there are great fighters out there who are not in the UFC, but they would not put UFC fighters to shame. You keep bringing up the point that Bruce Lee was a great fighter. I think Bruce did VERY good things for martial arts. His ideas were great, and he even diciplined himself in several different martial arts. But I don't believe that he was half the FIGHTER that people make him out to be. P.S.... most mixed martial artists didn't start fighting specifically to fight in a ring. Most of them were trained in some form of martial arts, then transitioned to sport fighting after they became really, really good martial artists FIRST.WELL maybe those "BRICK-BREAKERS", as you put it, are not interested in money/fame. Nothing wrong with living a humble life. They probably know how to use their strength when it comes to defending their family/friends far better than those UFC fighters. Fighting a real fight is not like a ring fight, y'know. There's a difference between throwing kicks and hurling yourself at an opponent, cooped up in a ring and having to deal with an enemy that uses his/her surroundings, like in a REAL fight.In fact, if you'd know ANYTHING about fighting, you would also AT THE VERY LEAST admit that there MIGHT still be great fighters like Bruce Lee who could probably put most UFC fighters to shame. The kind of people that you don't find in a ring. ;)SkyWard20If I threw a bottle at Bruce Lee and knocked him out, would that make me the better fighter?
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
Chuck Norris.
Xomonuchi
Lol Norris would get his !@# kicked in the octagon
OT : Randy Couture
I guess you never saw Chuck's movie called- "The Octagon."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081259/
And you show your ignorance when you say fighters "throw some kicks and hurl themselves at their opponents". You obviously don't understand the technicalities of what is going on or have never actually watched a full fight. BMD004
I feel like I have read this somewhere before...
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