I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all.
Discuss.
I think one is sufficient, others believe it shouldnt be in there at all, but it should stay.UrbanSpartan125
Nope, we need it in there twice.
Why stop there? Let's make it, "I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all. Amen."drewtwo99
Maybe add a couple more Gods in there...I like where this is going though.
I'm not an American but I wouldn't want "under God" in there at alldomatron23
This. And then they make the schools pledge ergo it should be taken out. I need to sue the government.
[QUOTE="drewtwo99"]Why stop there? Let's make it, "I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all. Amen."im_overrated
Maybe add a couple more Gods in there...I like where this is going though.
One nation under God, Chuck Norris, Buddha, Allah, RaptorJesus, Jebus, and Al Gore.
why, I think one is sufficient, but be ready because pretty soon people are going to come with, "it shouldn't be there at all", and "they just added that to seperate us from the commies" ect, ect ectLS07
It shouldn't be there at all. They just added that to separate us from the commies!
Why stop there? Let's make it, "I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all. Amen."drewtwo99
Pfft. Stop being so politically correct. It should be:
"Behold, I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice, but only for those who believe in God. Amen."
Yeah it should be int here like 4 times
*Note: that wasn't sarcasm*
This reminds me of a time when my teacher said Amen after the Pledge of Allegiance
Why does it offend so many people that "Under God" is in it? If you feel that it's so offensive then we should ban the use of saying "Bless you" when someone sneezes. I just see this as a way for atheiest to say " Hey look over here! I don't believe in God. I'm smarter than you so I don't have to say this word"shaza91Being in the pledge is unconstitutional....saying "Bless you" is not.
[QUOTE="shaza91"]Why does it offend so many people that "Under God" is in it? If you feel that it's so offensive then we should ban the use of saying "Bless you" when someone sneezes. I just see this as a way for atheiest to say " Hey look over here! I don't believe in God. I'm smarter than you so I don't have to say this word"CptJSparrowBeing in the pledge is unconstitutional....saying "Bless you" is not.
How is it any different? IThis reminds me of the Dane Cook standup lol When he's talking about saying "God bless you" to the athiest just to piss him off lol
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]One is already unconstitutional.Anamosa41Can you explain how it is unconstitutional? The constitution itself mentions God many times.
Sure, but it also mentions seperation of Church and State.One shouldnt be required toacknowledge God when pledging alliegance to their country. They aretwo different things.
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]One is already unconstitutional.Anamosa41Can you explain how it is unconstitutional? The constitution itself mentions God many times. You obviously have never read the Constitution of the United States of America or the Bill of Rights, as they nowhere mention the word 'God' and the Establishment Clause of First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America expressly states that Congress is not permitted to make any law respecting an establishment of religion, creating an excessive entanglement of government and religion, and every law must have a legitimate secular purpose. Congress added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 during the Red Scare to set America apart from the secular Soviet government.
[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]One is already unconstitutional.CptJSparrowCan you explain how it is unconstitutional? The constitution itself mentions God many times. You obviously have never read the Constitution of the United States of America or the Bill of Rights, as they nowhere mention the word 'God' and the Establishment Clause of First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America expressly states that Congress is not permitted to make any law respecting an establishment of religion, creating an excessive entanglement of government and religion, and every law must have a legitimate secular purpose. Congress added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 during the Red Scare to set America apart from the secular Soviet government.Apologies. I meant the Declaration of Independence. The nation was meant to be a nation that serves God.
I dont think it should be there. There obviously is no god anyway, why pray to an inatimate being?Dedicationism
This is the exact reason to why it's still in there. The majority of people who don't agree with it don't want it in the Pledge because they believe their belief is better, not becasue it conflicts with the constitution.
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]One is already unconstitutional.Anamosa41Can you explain how it is unconstitutional? The constitution itself mentions God many times. You obviously have never read the Constitution of the United States of America or the Bill of Rights, as they nowhere mention the word 'God' and the Establishment Clause of First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America expressly states that Congress is not permitted to make any law respecting an establishment of religion, creating an excessive entanglement of government and religion, and every law must have a legitimate secular purpose. Congress added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 during the Red Scare to set America apart from the secular Soviet government.Apologies. I meant the Declaration of Independence. The nation was meant to be a nation that serves God.
I have to disagree with both of you anamosa this was not meant to be a nation that serves God we have a speration of church and state and CptJSparrow it is not unconstitutional because it is not required, I believe they made those 2 words optional and you can just pause there if you want, correct me if I'm wrong here
Can you explain how it is unconstitutional? The constitution itself mentions God many times. You obviously have never read the Constitution of the United States of America or the Bill of Rights, as they nowhere mention the word 'God' and the Establishment Clause of First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America expressly states that Congress is not permitted to make any law respecting an establishment of religion, creating an excessive entanglement of government and religion, and every law must have a legitimate secular purpose. Congress added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 during the Red Scare to set America apart from the secular Soviet government.Apologies. I meant the Declaration of Independence. The nation was meant to be a nation that serves God.[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]One is already unconstitutional.LS07
I have to disagree with both of you anamosa this was not meant to be a nation that serves God we have a speration of church and state and CptJSparrow it is not unconstitutional because it is not required, I believe they made those 2 words optional and you can just pause there if you want, correct me if I'm wrong here
No law says that you are required to say the pledge, but that has no bearing on its Constitutionality or lack thereof. Anamosa, the Declaration of Independence is not the supreme law of the land, and the man who wrote it was a deist who believed that a deity did nothing but create the universe and instill inherent rights for man--this is NOT the Christian God, nor does it represent Constitutional philosophy.President Nixon was the man who forced the word God into the pledge. I frown upon him.L8erSquareEisenhower, actually.
[QUOTE="drewtwo99"]Why stop there? Let's make it, "I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all. Amen."pianist
Pfft. Stop being so politically correct. It should be:
"Behold, I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice, but only for those who believe in God. Amen."
pfff...:
Behold thee, I pledge allegience to the only true God, the pure and mighty flag of the greatUnited States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under the only true God, with liberty and justice, as long as it doesnt go against God. Death to non-believers. Amen.
(before asking, no, im not American, thats called irony, folks) P.S. Atheist FTW
Honestly, I dont see how people can get offended to the word god. Why is God creating such controversy? Anyway, I dont see a problem with god in the pledge. Of course, I might just be biased because I am a Christian. As for saying god more than once in the pledge: Sounds like a good idea but Im fine with it being said once. Im just concerned that it might be removed soon. As Jay Leno once said, "With the threat of terrorism, disease and natural disasters, do you really think its a good time to remove god from the pledge?"GamingBoy2009
Why should I recognize your God if I don't think he exiss? What if you had to say one nation under Allah, or one nation under Yaweh. Would you still feel the same?
Or Odin, or Zeus, or Osiris, or any other god figure?
Why stop there? Let's make it, "I pledge allegience to God, the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic of God for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all. Amen."drewtwo99
Lol sigged.
[QUOTE="GamingBoy2009"]Honestly, I dont see how people can get offended to the word god. Why is God creating such controversy? Anyway, I dont see a problem with god in the pledge. Of course, I might just be biased because I am a Christian. As for saying god more than once in the pledge: Sounds like a good idea but Im fine with it being said once. Im just concerned that it might be removed soon. As Jay Leno once said, "With the threat of terrorism, disease and natural disasters, do you really think its a good time to remove god from the pledge?"muthsera666
Why should I recognize your God if I don't think he exiss? What if you had to say one nation under Allah, or one nation under Yaweh. Would you still feel the same?
Or Odin, or Zeus, or Osiris, or any other god figure?
No one's forcing you to say anything or recognize anyone/thing. You don't even have to say the pledge if you don't want to. Or you can substitute "God" with "FSM" or "Chunk Norris" or w/e else you want to.Also, God, Allah and Yahweh are the same god.
[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="GamingBoy2009"]Honestly, I dont see how people can get offended to the word god. Why is God creating such controversy? Anyway, I dont see a problem with god in the pledge. Of course, I might just be biased because I am a Christian. As for saying god more than once in the pledge: Sounds like a good idea but Im fine with it being said once. Im just concerned that it might be removed soon. As Jay Leno once said, "With the threat of terrorism, disease and natural disasters, do you really think its a good time to remove god from the pledge?"Ezgam3r
Why should I recognize your God if I don't think he exiss? What if you had to say one nation under Allah, or one nation under Yaweh. Would you still feel the same?
Or Odin, or Zeus, or Osiris, or any other god figure?
No one's forcing you to say anything or recognize anyone/thing. You don't even have to say the pledge if you don't want to. Or you can substitute "God" with "FSM" or "Chunk Norris" or w/e else you want to.Also, God, Allah and Yahweh are the same god.
1) In my high school, we had to say the pledge. So yes, I was forced.
2) I know tht God, Allah, and Yaweh are the same God, but they have different connotations and are therefore nto accepted by all of the members of the different faiths. I know some people who get angry when they hear the name Allah instead of God...
[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="GamingBoy2009"]Honestly, I dont see how people can get offended to the word god. Why is God creating such controversy? Anyway, I dont see a problem with god in the pledge. Of course, I might just be biased because I am a Christian. As for saying god more than once in the pledge: Sounds like a good idea but Im fine with it being said once. Im just concerned that it might be removed soon. As Jay Leno once said, "With the threat of terrorism, disease and natural disasters, do you really think its a good time to remove god from the pledge?"muthsera666
Why should I recognize your God if I don't think he exiss? What if you had to say one nation under Allah, or one nation under Yaweh. Would you still feel the same?
Or Odin, or Zeus, or Osiris, or any other god figure?
No one's forcing you to say anything or recognize anyone/thing. You don't even have to say the pledge if you don't want to. Or you can substitute "God" with "FSM" or "Chunk Norris" or w/e else you want to.Also, God, Allah and Yahweh are the same god.
1) In my high school, we had to say the pledge. So yes, I was forced.
2) I know tht God, Allah, and Yaweh are the same God, but they have different connotations and are therefore nto accepted by all of the members of the different faiths. I know some people who get angry when they hear the name Allah instead of God...
1 you don't have to say those 2 words, thats from a ruling a few years ago you can pause or fill in whatever you want
2 yeah thats true
[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="GamingBoy2009"]Honestly, I dont see how people can get offended to the word god. Why is God creating such controversy? Anyway, I dont see a problem with god in the pledge. Of course, I might just be biased because I am a Christian. As for saying god more than once in the pledge: Sounds like a good idea but Im fine with it being said once. Im just concerned that it might be removed soon. As Jay Leno once said, "With the threat of terrorism, disease and natural disasters, do you really think its a good time to remove god from the pledge?"LS07
Why should I recognize your God if I don't think he exiss? What if you had to say one nation under Allah, or one nation under Yaweh. Would you still feel the same?
Or Odin, or Zeus, or Osiris, or any other god figure?
No one's forcing you to say anything or recognize anyone/thing. You don't even have to say the pledge if you don't want to. Or you can substitute "God" with "FSM" or "Chunk Norris" or w/e else you want to.Also, God, Allah and Yahweh are the same god.
1) In my high school, we had to say the pledge. So yes, I was forced.
2) I know tht God, Allah, and Yaweh are the same God, but they have different connotations and are therefore nto accepted by all of the members of the different faiths. I know some people who get angry when they hear the name Allah instead of God...
1 you don't have to say those 2 words, thats from a ruling a few years ago you can pause or fill in whatever you want
2 yeah thats true
1) I don't now, but all through elementary, middle, and high school, we didn't have a choice. We had to say the pledge in its entirety.
1) I don't now, but all through elementary, middle, and high school, we didn't have a choice. We had to say the pledge in its entirety.
muthsera666
well I'm not sure when the ruling was, but if they try to make you now, sue there asses off and split the cash with me I'm broke
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