Unpopular Music Opinions

[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Oh man, I freaking hate Wagner.

PannicAtack

To Subyman as the quote thing is being a *****:

Come to Detroit! I have heard Detroit called the #1 city in the world when it comes to electronic music. I do believe they have like a big techno fest or something every year. I am not totally familiar, but I have heard the techno scene in Detroit is fantastic. At the very least, Detroit is fantastic for music in general. I feel lucky living so close to Detroit as an aspiring musician.

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[QUOTE="Swanogt19"] Wow. Subjective much. Dookie is solid from front to back. Diversity doesn't necessarily make something "consistent." Swanogt19

Only a few of the songs stick out whereas the rest of the songs kind of blend together. That is the definition of an inconsisten album...

I don't mean blend together in the good way that you mentioned. Both Nimrod and American Idiot do that to a great degree.

Dookie blends together in that alot of the songs sound so similar to eachother I really have a hard time differentiating between the non-single songs. While it is still a good enough cd that DOES include some of my fav Green Day songs on it, I find too many of the songs on the album to be a bit forgetable.

With like half the songs being forgetable while the other half are absolute classics, that makes it the very definition of inconsistent.

Nimrod and American Idiot however are very quality the whole way through. The non-single songs are just as memorable as the singles themselves, unlike Dookie. Jinx/Haushinka and Homecoming are great examples of that.

It's funny too because I went through a period of hating American Idiot with how overplayed the singles got. Then I went back and listened to the cd again last year and absolutely fell in love with it. It is such a great album and now I feel it did deserve the hype it got.

I may have expected too much from Dookie. I had played through the album on Rock Band and it was fun, went and got the album but only listened it to a couple of times before switching out the cd for something else. However, I ended up listening to Nimrod and American Idiot a TON. Absolutely LOVE those albums.

[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Oh man, I freaking hate Wagner.

PannicAtack

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[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"] Me, too. I also don't like Mozart. His stuff sounds too happy. Ring_of_fire

I'm not familiar with any of those. I am familiar with Mussorgsky's "Boris Godunov," however, which is awesome (well, music's awesome, the drama suffers from a few things). However, I did look up the score for "The Nose," once, and I saw that in the first scene, the bass goes up to a high A-flat. What?

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Notreally.

PannicAtack

The Nose is a great piece, though it's a tad crazy, both in story line, and musically. It is sorta reminiscent of Wozzeck I believe than a traditional opera. It's not as good as Lady Macbeth, I don't think, but that's not to say it's a bad opera. It's just basically about struggle between cIasses.

Lady Macbeth has to be considered one of the best opera's of the 20th century. Great story, with great music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ2-EBYScZ4 This one of my favorite parts, even though it's an interlude. It's basically where the opera's main characters lives turn upside down. Great music, ends tragically (Though most operas....they end tragically)

Khovanschina wasn't finished by Mussorgsky, but left the vocal score. Shostakovich edited it, and it's great musically. The story is a bit confusing, but it's not horrible. The music is great, though, and I think that makes up for the story problems. They are doing a production at the met in the spring of '12. Plus, Khovanschina is extremely bass heavy, at least 2 of the big stars are basses.

Pink Floyd and Radiohead are vastly overrated. From what I have seen, it's only people who are trying to act "cool" that like them...

*Raises flame shield*

Bring it on haters!

redstorm72

I hate Nirvana.
I don't very much like The Who.
Most of the stuff I hear on the popular radio stations is pretty bad, but I'm not such a snob that I can't listen to it without complaining like an infant.
I don't think that Lady Gaga is anything special - she's no better than the rest of the stuff you hear on the radio.
I just don't care about Justin Bieber.

That's about all I can come up with.
I mostly just listen to jazz and don't concern myself with what I don't like.

t3hrubikscube

I hate Nirvana.

t3hrubikscube

You hate Nirvana!? *tear rolls down face*

[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"] Me, too. I also don't like Mozart. His stuff sounds too happy. PannicAtack

Still, I don't even like that one. ColonelVodka

Pink Floyd is a bore.

The Beatles are a bore.

Yes is a bore.

Prog rock, in general, is a bore.

Opeth is a mild bore.

Power metal is lame.

Thrash metal is one of the most unappealing and derivative metal genres.

That's all I can think of right now...

-I **** LOVE Green Day, I don't care what anybody says.

-Some songs from Panic! At The Disco's debut album are okay.

-Lady Gaga is an attention whore. She is not original, she is not innovative and she is not talented.

-I don't think the Beatles are the most influential band of all time. I hear way more influences from the Rolling Stones and Rush than I ever have with the Beatles.

-I think Metallica is a great band, and their newest album is not bad at all.

-Death/thrash/black metal are some of the most boring genres of music I've ever heard, not to mention really corny (I'll make exceptions for a couple bands). I could never get into that type of music.

-I **** LOVE Green Day, I don't care what anybody says.

-Some songs from Panic! At The Disco's debut album are okay.

-Lady Gaga is an attention whore. She is not original, she is not innovative and she is not talented.

-I don't think the Beatles are the most influential band of all time. I hear way more influences from the Rolling Stones and Rush than I ever have with the Beatles.

-I think Metallica is a great band, and their newest album is not bad at all.

marcogamer07

And how do you define "influences"?

[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

-I **** LOVE Green Day, I don't care what anybody says.

-Some songs from Panic! At The Disco's debut album are okay.

-Lady Gaga is an attention whore. She is not original, she is not innovative and she is not talented.

-I don't think the Beatles are the most influential band of all time. I hear way more influences from the Rolling Stones and Rush than I ever have with the Beatles.

-I think Metallica is a great band, and their newest album is not bad at all.

GreySeal9

And how do you define "inflences"?

I don't know. Why don't you tell me?

1. The Beatles aresoo overrated.

2. Black Metal sounds like crap to me with the exception of DarkSpace

3. Stoner Rock/ Stoner Metal is awesome.

I find the majority of Metal comes down to technical fret wankery.... and its dull and uninspiring. Come at me brah?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

-I **** LOVE Green Day, I don't care what anybody says.

-Some songs from Panic! At The Disco's debut album are okay.

-Lady Gaga is an attention whore. She is not original, she is not innovative and she is not talented.

-I don't think the Beatles are the most influential band of all time. I hear way more influences from the Rolling Stones and Rush than I ever have with the Beatles.

-I think Metallica is a great band, and their newest album is not bad at all.

marcogamer07

And how do you define "inflences"?

I don't know. Why don't you tell me?

Why should I tell you? It was you who used the word.

I'm just curious as to how you define influences.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

-I **** LOVE Green Day, I don't care what anybody says.

-Some songs from Panic! At The Disco's debut album are okay.

-Lady Gaga is an attention whore. She is not original, she is not innovative and she is not talented.

-I don't think the Beatles are the most influential band of all time. I hear way more influences from the Rolling Stones and Rush than I ever have with the Beatles.

-I think Metallica is a great band, and their newest album is not bad at all.

marcogamer07

And how do you define "inflences"?

I don't know. Why don't you tell me?

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

And how do you define "inflences"?

PannicAtack

I don't know. Why don't you tell me?

There were concept albums before Sgt Peppers though so I wouldn't say they flat out inspired the idea of the concept album. Obviously it had a significant impact on the development of the concept album though. Not so sure about your first comment either.

1. The Beatles aresoo overrated.

2. Black Metal sounds like crap to me with the exception of DarkSpace

3. Stoner Rock/ Stoner Metal is awesome.

Gibsonsg527

Props to you for making DarkSpace the exception.

Black Metal sounds like crap to me with the exception of DarkSpaceGibsonsg527

I agree with all the people who said Prog Rock is for the most part really boring. JML897

What exactly do you find boring about it may I ask?

Well, you got "Helter Skelter," which was very likely influential in forming the entire heavy metal genre. You have "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," which inspired the concept album. You have the idea that rock and roll should be made up of people who write their own music (George Martin providing arrangements notwithstanding). Those are some pretty big ones off the top of my head.PannicAtack

Sgt Peppar was not the first concept album....and it was an attempt to sound like the Beach Boys Pet Sounds. So give credit where it's due and don't just believe The Beatles weren't following their own influences.

Well, my opinions are unpopular for a reason. LOL

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

And how do you define "inflences"?

GreySeal9

I don't know. Why don't you tell me?

Why should I tell you? It was you who used the word.

I'm just curious as to how you define influences.

When I talk influences, I meant how the band sounds as a whole. I'm not talking about certain ideas that changed music history.

There's no question that the Beatles were unique in what they did at the time, but I hear more bands today that contain the sound the Stones had in the 60s. Maybe I'm not using the correct term, but hopefully you get the idea.

What do you define as influences?

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[QUOTE="Nude_Dude"]pornogrind

Nude_Dude

genuinely lol'd to tears

No stage presence = crap artist however there is room for improvement if they want I don't care how "beautiful" their lyrics are. If they aren't feeling it, why should I? Maybe that is why some indie bands/artists don't get that far. They have to realize that they need to put on a show, not just play their songs. That's boring. That is probably also why some bands/genres mentioned here are being called boring, to them, there is nothing that makes them enjoyable. Now, some stage presence depends on the listener, but still. That's where I stand. Even the crappiest songs can get a crowd roaring in enjoyment. Hate on the top 40 artists all you want, but most of them have stage presence.MistressMinako

I agree with LJ. I don't care at all about stage presence. It's about the music to me. How are the vocals? Is the band playing well. etc. If the band/artist can't perform well it makes a poor show no matter how well the stage presence is.

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]No stage presence = crap artist however there is room for improvement if they want I don't care how "beautiful" their lyrics are. If they aren't feeling it, why should I? Maybe that is why some indie bands/artists don't get that far. They have to realize that they need to put on a show, not just play their songs. That's boring. That is probably also why some bands/genres mentioned here are being called boring, to them, there is nothing that makes them enjoyable. Now, some stage presence depends on the listener, but still. That's where I stand. Even the crappiest songs can get a crowd roaring in enjoyment. Hate on the top 40 artists all you want, but most of them have stage presence.LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]No stage presence = crap artist however there is room for improvement if they want I don't care how "beautiful" their lyrics are. If they aren't feeling it, why should I? Maybe that is why some indie bands/artists don't get that far. They have to realize that they need to put on a show, not just play their songs. That's boring. That is probably also why some bands/genres mentioned here are being called boring, to them, there is nothing that makes them enjoyable. Now, some stage presence depends on the listener, but still. That's where I stand. Even the crappiest songs can get a crowd roaring in enjoyment. Hate on the top 40 artists all you want, but most of them have stage presence.MistressMinako

But hearing music live is listening to an album at home is completely different. That is how I feel anyways. Live performaces are raw compared to the studio. Songs can have emotion or no emotion at all live. Personally I feel that music is expressed in any form better live than recroded.

I'm not sure what you mean by lack of emotion. I haven't seen any robots on stage. And live music is not the same as recorded music.LJS9502_basic

I wasn't saying live music has better music quality than record. :? I was saying how a song can come across completely different live than it can in studio.

I wasn't saying live music has better music quality than record. :? I was saying how a song can come across completely different live than it can in studio.

Swanogt19

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[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

I don't know. Why don't you tell me?

marcogamer07

Why should I tell you? It was you who used the word.

I'm just curious as to how you define influences.

When I talk influences, I meant how the band sounds as a whole. I'm not talking about certain ideas that changed music history.

There's no question that the Beatles were unique in what they did at the time, but I hear more bands today that contain the sound the Stones had in the 60s. Maybe I'm not using the correct term, but hopefully you get the idea.

What do you define as influences?

Your definition is partly mine, though I'd include "ideas".

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

Well, you got "Helter Skelter," which was very likely influential in forming the entire heavy metal genre. You have "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," which inspired the concept album. You have the idea that rock and roll should be made up of people who write their own music (George Martin providing arrangements notwithstanding). Those are some pretty big ones off the top of my head.LJS9502_basic

Sgt Peppar was not the first concept album....and it was an attempt to sound like the Beach Boys Pet Sounds. So give credit where it's due and don't just believe The Beatles weren't following their own influences.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

Well, you got "Helter Skelter," which was very likely influential in forming the entire heavy metal genre. You have "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," which inspired the concept album. You have the idea that rock and roll should be made up of people who write their own music (George Martin providing arrangements notwithstanding). Those are some pretty big ones off the top of my head.mexicangordo

Sgt Peppar was not the first concept album....and it was an attempt to sound like the Beach Boys Pet Sounds. So give credit where it's due and don't just believe The Beatles weren't following their own influences.

I'm not sure why, but I never really got into "Pink Floyd." "Bring the Boys Back Home" in the film version of "The Wall" was pretty awesome, though. I guess I just don't like the singer.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I'm not sure why, but I never really got into "Pink Floyd." "Bring the Boys Back Home" in the film version of "The Wall" was pretty awesome, though. I guess I just don't like the singer.mexicangordo

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Helter Skelter was an attempt by McCartney to sound like The Who....so then if you find that an influence on metal....it wouldn't be The Beatles. Though the influence on metal rightfully belongs to Black Sabbath. Not The Beatles nor The Who.

Sgt Peppar was not the first concept album....and it was an attempt to sound like the Beach Boys Pet Sounds. So give credit where it's due and don't just believe The Beatles weren't following their own influences.

PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] As much as I love Pet Sounds (by far my favorite BB album) It is not a concept album. Its just titled based on Wilsons tinkering in the studio. Sgt. Pepper IS considered to be the first concept rock album, it came with lyrics in the booklet and pictures. Something that was not done before implying that it has lyrical depth worth reading, and concept throughout the album.

mexicangordo

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] As much as I love Pet Sounds (by far my favorite BB album) It is not a concept album. Its just titled based on Wilsons tinkering in the studio. Sgt. Pepper IS considered to be the first concept rock album, it came with lyrics in the booklet and pictures. Something that was not done before implying that it has lyrical depth worth reading, and concept throughout the album.

mexicangordo

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I'm not sure why, but I never really got into "Pink Floyd." "Bring the Boys Back Home" in the film version of "The Wall" was pretty awesome, though. I guess I just don't like the singer.PannicAtack

I honestly think The Wall is perhaps the greatest rock opera/show to this day. Unlike other massive albums, The Wall is incredible easy to listen too. You dont have to listen from song after song. You can get into "Run like Hell," or "Hey you" right away. Yet it still keeps the albums sophistication and message for those who want to listen to it front to back.