U.S. and Russia agree to nuclear cuts

The U.S. and Russia have agreed to limit the number of nuclear weapons they have down to 1,500 to 1,675.

Maybe it's just me, but I still think that's a lot of missiles. Anyway, what do you guys think?

I don't think Russia will do and I won't have agreed to it were I president.

I think this basicaly means that Russia is on our side though, which is fantastic. Dont you see that one of the reasons this was done was probably to let North Korea know
"Hey, youve got two big countries that have a **** load of nukes working together, theres no chance that you can win >=o"

If anyone thinks this will be upheld....I've got a bridge to sell you...Omni-Slash

I'm very glad Obama did this to increase relations with Russia. While I disagree with just about everything the man stands for, I have been very pleased with his foreign policy so far.

If anyone thinks this will be upheld....I've got a bridge to sell you...Omni-Slash

Oh no, I'm not falling for that one again. >_>

On-Topic, there's no way that either nation will actually do this. And even if they did, what's the point? "Oh no, now instead of a couple thousand nukes, now each of us just has 1500. How are we going to protect ourselves now?" :roll:

This seems pointless to me. Even if Russia does live up to their side of the deal, 1500 nukes is still enough to basically blow up everything on the planet.JML897

Oh good, now when that happens they'll only be able to destroy the entire world ninety times over instead of a hundred... :P

it's great news that the US and Russia are getting along well enough that they can agree to things like this while world tensions are high.Ace6301

If anyone thinks this will be upheld....I've got a bridge to sell you...Omni-Slash

Okay, I've never owned a bridge before!

Wow that's a really dumb move. Obama is weakening our defense system!! What does he think he's doing?! How do we know if Russia is really complying?! Just look at what they did to Georgia last summer!!Cathan

Even if the US does reduce their stockpile to 1,500 and Russia doesn't, exactly what difference does that make?

Wow that's a really dumb move. Obama is weakening our defense system!! What does he think he's doing?! How do we know if Russia is really complying?! Just look at what they did to Georgia last summer!!Cathan

Wow that's a really dumb move. Obama is weakening our defense system!! What does he think he's doing?! How do we know if Russia is really complying?! Just look at what they did to Georgia last summer!!Cathan

[QUOTE="Cathan"]Wow that's a really dumb move. Obama is weakening our defense system!! What does he think he's doing?! How do we know if Russia is really complying?! Just look at what they did to Georgia last summer!!GabuEx

Even if the US does reduce their stockpile to 1,500 and Russia doesn't, exactly what difference does that make?

Wow that's a really dumb move. Obama is weakening our defense system!! What does he think he's doing?! How do we know if Russia is really complying?! Just look at what they did to Georgia last summer!!Cathan

Even if the US does reduce their stockpile to 1,500 and Russia doesn't, exactly what difference does that make?

All I know is that if we don't stay the most powerful, defended country in the world, then we will steadily decline in the opposite direction until we completely cease to be a superpower.Cathan

Still plenty to destroy us all.

This is still a pretty big move for U.S.-Russia relations. The last time U.S. planes were allowed to fly over Russia air space was...uh..never!

All I know is that if we don't stay the most powerful, defended country in the world, then we will steadily decline in the opposite direction until we completely cease to be a superpower.Cathan

We already are ceasing to be a superpower. Nothing lasts forever.

Personally, I think we should only be allowed one nuclear warhead.....but even that is one to many.

Let's all play Jenga and sing Kumbaya.

Between Russia and the USA, there will still be more than enough weapons to end all life as we know it, even at the suggested reduction rates. Still...it is a good step forward. Negotiation is not a bad thing.

When I first read the title I thought it read "U.S. and Russia agree to nuclear cats"

If anyone thinks this will be upheld....I've got a bridge to sell you...Omni-Slash

When I first read the title I thought it read "U.S. and Russia agree to nuclear cats"

IndigoSunrise

Meeowww!!

It weakens our defense system, and it shows the rest of the world that we can be bargained with.Cathan

If it weakens our defense system, then would you care to tell me what we can't defend with 1,500 nukes that we could with 1,600-some?

And yes, it shows the rest of the world that America can be bargained with. That's how diplomacy works. The fact that America is actually willing to talk to other countries with which it has disagreements is what makes America a respected first-world nation rather than part of the so-called Axis of Evil.

[QUOTE="Cathan"]It weakens our defense system, and it shows the rest of the world that we can be bargained with.GabuEx

If it weakens our defense system, then would you care to tell me what we can't defend with 1,500 nukes that we could with 1,600-some?

And yes, it shows the rest of the world that America can be bargained with. That's how diplomacy works. The fact that America is actually willing to talk to other countries with which it has disagreements is what makes America a respected first-world nation.

BTW, I don't think 1500 would be enough to destroy the world. Lets be liberal here and say one nuclear bomb can destroy everything in a 300km radius. (~283000km area) The area of earth's land mass is 148,000,000km. Meaning it would take.......... 522 nuclear bombs to all the land on earth. NEVER MIND :?munu9

[QUOTE="munu9"]BTW, I don't think 1500 would be enough to destroy the world. Lets be liberal here and say one nuclear bomb can destroy everything in a 300km radius. (~283000km area) The area of earth's land mass is 148,000,000km. Meaning it would take.......... 522 nuclear bombs to all the land on earth. NEVER MIND :?sonicare

Though you should read up on the affects of this nuclear bomb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

pretty scarey :?

Maybe mutually assured destruction makes some people feel safe but not me. Its so ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Cathan"]It weakens our defense system, and it shows the rest of the world that we can be bargained with.GabuEx

If it weakens our defense system, then would you care to tell me what we can't defend with 1,500 nukes that we could with 1,600-some?

And yes, it shows the rest of the world that America can be bargained with. That's how diplomacy works. The fact that America is actually willing to talk to other countries with which it has disagreements is what makes America a respected first-world nation rather than part of the so-called Axis of Evil.

[QUOTE="munu9"]

300 km radius is pretty big though. I dont think most nukes can do that. Maybe just that russian one.sonicare

Though you should read up on the affects of this nuclear bomb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

pretty scarey :?

Whoa, hold on, 300 km radius? The Tsar Bomba only had a 4.6 km radius - I think that's a wee bit more than a "liberal" estimate... :P

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="munu9"] I guess, it was a liberal estimate assuming we only had high yield hydrogen bombs. It probably takes more like a 1000 of the nuclear bombs we have.

Though you should read up on the affects of this nuclear bomb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

pretty scarey :?

IndigoSunrise

Whoa, hold on, 300 km radius? The Tsar Bomba only had a 4.6 km radius - I think that's a wee bit more than a "liberal" estimate... :P

Plus, I realized that that was a pretty stupid statement to make on my part, which is why I deleted it... that figure is the fireball radius, not the radius of destruction.

Awesome. Now there's only enough nukes to destroy the earth 200 times!

I really don't see the point of this...

Some people here seriously overrated the power of nuclear bombs lol. We cannot destroy all life on the planet with out current amount of nuclear weapons. We could end the way of life as we know it, but we couldn't destroy the planet.

And if for some reason Russia and USA decided to launch every single one of their missiles, they wouldn't be shooting them at random cities around the world strategically positioned to take out all life lol. Also, we have significant ballistic missle defense systems and a healthy dosage would never be detonated.