US discovers nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan!

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I'm constantly amazed at how the US always find a way to.......

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WASHINGTON — The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits inAfghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.

The previously unknown deposits — including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals likelithium— are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world, the United States officials believe.

An internal Pentagon memo, for example, states that Afghanistan could become the "Saudi Arabia of lithium," a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and BlackBerrys.

The vast scale of Afghanistan's mineral wealth was discovered by a small team of Pentagon officials and American geologists. The Afghan government and PresidentHamid Karzaiwere recently briefed, American officials said.

While it could take many years to develop a mining industry, the potential is so great that officials and executives in the industry believe it could attract heavy investment even before mines are profitable, providing the possibility of jobs that could distract from generations of war.

"There is stunning potential here," Gen.David H. Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command, said in an interview on Saturday. "There are a lot of ifs, of course, but I think potentially it is hugely significant."

The value of the newly discovered mineral deposits dwarfs the size of Afghanistan's existing war-bedraggled economy, which is based largely on opium production and narcotics trafficking as well as aid from the United States and other industrialized countries. Afghanistan's gross domestic product is only about $12 billion.

"This will become the backbone of the Afghan economy," said Jalil Jumriany, an adviser to the Afghan minister of mines.

American and Afghan officials agreed to discuss the mineral discoveries at a difficult moment in the war in Afghanistan. The American-led offensive in Marja in southern Afghanistan has achieved only limited gains. Meanwhile, charges of corruption and favoritism continue to plague the Karzai government, and Mr. Karzai seems increasingly embittered toward the White House.

So the Obama administration is hungry for some positive news to come out of Afghanistan. Yet the American officials also recognize that the mineral discoveries will almost certainly have a double-edged impact.

Instead of bringing peace, the newfound mineral wealth could lead theTalibanto battle even more fiercely to regain control of the country.

The corruption that is already rampant in the Karzai government could also be amplified by the new wealth, particularly if a handful of well-connected oligarchs, some with personal ties to the president, gain control of the resources. Just last year, Afghanistan's minister of mines was accused by American officials of accepting a $30 million bribe to award China the rights to develop its copper mine. The minister has since been replaced.

Endless fights could erupt between the central government in Kabul and provincial and tribal leaders in mineral-rich districts. Afghanistan has a national mining law, written with the help of advisers from theWorld Bank, but it has never faced a serious challenge.

"No one has tested that law; no one knows how it will stand up in a fight between the central government and the provinces," observedPaul A. Brinkley, deputy undersecretary of defense for business and leader of the Pentagon team that discovered the deposits.

At the same time, American officials fear resource-hungry China will try to dominate the development of Afghanistan's mineral wealth, which could upset the United States, given its heavy investment in the region. After winning the bid for its Aynak copper mine in Logar Province, China clearly wants more, American officials said.

Another complication is that because Afghanistan has never had much heavy industry before, it has little or no history of environmental protection either. "The big question is, can this be developed in a responsible way, in a way that is environmentally and socially responsible?" Mr. Brinkley said. "No one knows how this will work."

With virtually no mining industry or infrastructure in place today, it will take decades for Afghanistan to exploit its mineral wealth fully. "This is a country that has no mining culture," said Jack Medlin, a geologist in theUnited States Geological Survey's international affairs program. "They've had some small artisanal mines, but now there could be some very, very large mines that will require more than just a gold pan."

The mineral deposits are scattered throughout the country, including in the southern and eastern regions along the border with Pakistan that have had some of the most intense combat in the American-led war against the Taliban insurgency.

The Pentagon task force has already started trying to help the Afghans set up a system to deal with mineral development. International accounting firms that have expertise in mining contracts have been hired to consult with the Afghan Ministry of Mines, and technical data is being prepared to turn over to multinational mining companies and other potential foreign investors. The Pentagon is helping Afghan officials arrange to start seeking bids on mineral rights by next fall, officials said.

"The Ministry of Mines is not ready to handle this," Mr. Brinkley said. "We are trying to help them get ready."

Like much of the recent history of the country, the story of the discovery of Afghanistan's mineral wealth is one of missed opportunities and the distractions of war.

In 2004, American geologists, sent to Afghanistan as part of a broader reconstruction effort, stumbled across an intriguing series of old charts and data at the library of the Afghan Geological Survey in Kabul that hinted at major mineral deposits in the country. They soon learned that the data had been collected by Soviet mining experts during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but cast aside when the Soviets withdrew in 1989.

During the chaos of the 1990s, when Afghanistan was mired in civil war and later ruled by the Taliban, a small group of Afghan geologists protected the charts by taking them home, and returned them to the Geological Survey's library only after the American invasion and the ouster of the Taliban in 2001.

"There were maps, but the development did not take place, because you had 30 to 35 years of war," said Ahmad Hujabre, an Afghan engineer who worked for the Ministry of Mines in the 1970s.

Armed with the old Russian charts, the United States Geological Survey began a series of aerial surveys of Afghanistan's mineral resources in 2006, using advanced gravity and magnetic measuring equipment attached to an old Navy Orion P-3 aircraft that flew over about 70 percent of the country.

The data from those flights was so promising that in 2007, the geologists returned for an even more sophisticated study, using an old British bomber equipped with instruments that offered a three-dimensional profile of mineral deposits below the earth's surface. It was the most comprehensive geologic survey of Afghanistan ever conducted.

The handful of American geologists who pored over the new data said the results were astonishing.

But the results gathered dust for two more years, ignored by officials in both the American and Afghan governments. In 2009, a Pentagon task force that had created business development programs in Iraq was transferred to Afghanistan, and came upon the geological data. Until then, no one besides the geologists had bothered to look at the information — and no one had sought to translate the technical data to measure the potential economic value of the mineral deposits.

Soon, the Pentagon business development task force brought in teams of American mining experts to validate the survey's findings, and then briefed Defense SecretaryRobert M. Gatesand Mr. Karzai.

So far, the biggest mineral deposits discovered are of iron and copper, and the quantities are large enough to make Afghanistan a major world producer of both, United States officials said. Other finds include large deposits of niobium, a soft metal used in producing superconducting steel, rare earth elements and large gold deposits in Pashtun areas of southern Afghanistan.

Just this month, American geologists working with the Pentagon team have been conducting ground surveys on dry salt lakes in western Afghanistan where they believe there are large deposits of lithium. Pentagon officials said that their initial analysis at one location in Ghazni Province showed the potential for lithium deposits as large of those of Bolivia, which now has the world's largest known lithium reserves.

For the geologists who are now scouring some of the most remote stretches of Afghanistan to complete the technical studies necessary before the international bidding process is begun, there is a growing sense that they are in the midst of one of the great discoveries of their careers.

"On the ground, it's very, very, promising," Mr. Medlin said. "Actually, it's pretty amazing."

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Well hot damn
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tl;dr but seriously, what is the US going to do take Afghanistan's minerals? Will it at least pay for them?
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NO WAR FOR MINERALS!!!

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Mining is better than being a narco-state.

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tl;dr but seriously, what is the US going to do take Afghanistan's minerals? Will it at least pay for them?l0ve

Its unclear at the moment. I recall the Iraq oil contracts all going to non american companies, maybe these assets will follow the same path. The US government seems to want to avoid the impression that the wars are not about resources, but rather altruistic purposes.

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Well this is good news for Afghanistan, as the potential industry that could be made is huge.

That could lead to a stable economy, which is the basis of a stable nation.

I know poverty has been an issue there for centuries, this could help solve it.

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[QUOTE="l0ve"]tl;dr but seriously, what is the US going to do take Afghanistan's minerals? Will it at least pay for them?majwill24

Its unclear at the moment. I recall the Iraq oil contracts all going to non american companies, maybe these assets will follow the same path. The US government seems to want to avoid the impression that the wars are not about resources, but rather altruistic purposes.

That's foolish and a waste of money. Harvest I say, harvest!
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Well this is good news for Afghanistan, as the potential industry that could be made is huge.

That could lead to a stable economy, which is the basis of a stable nation.

I know poverty has been an issue there for centuries, this could help solve it.

dercoo

I agree. It would require an enormous investment however to get all the infrastructure in place. The country will be in the red for quite a while.

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[QUOTE="majwill24"]

[QUOTE="l0ve"]tl;dr but seriously, what is the US going to do take Afghanistan's minerals? Will it at least pay for them?bobaban

Its unclear at the moment. I recall the Iraq oil contracts all going to non american companies, maybe these assets will follow the same path. The US government seems to want to avoid the impression that the wars are not about resources, but rather altruistic purposes.

That's foolish and a waste of money. Harvest I say, harvest!

I do agree its foolish with the Afghan situation. Ir the minerals are going to be tapped, the US will have to provide most of the security, so it would make sense for both governments and private contractors to work out a fair agreement for all

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This is good news I think. Industry would certainly introduce a lot more working oppertunities in that country. That, in turn, would translate to less effective recruiting for terrorist cells.

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Well since we have informed the Afghan government we are probably going to secure some sort of deal.

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Well since we have informed the Afghan government we are probably going to secure some sort of deal.

howlrunner13

Most likely. One thing people may not realize is how dependent the US is to China for rare earth minerals. china has a near monopoly on many minerals used for high tech devices.

I'm not a politician, but how would Americans view the war if Obama mentioned the resources as reason to increase the war effort in Afghanistan?

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And that explains everything.
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Well this is good news for Afghanistan, as the potential industry that could be made is huge.

That could lead to a stable economy, which is the basis of a stable nation.

I know poverty has been an issue there for centuries, this could help solve it.

entropyecho

I agree. It would require an enormous investment however to get all the infrastructure in place. The country will be in the red for quite a while.

To be fair the US is deeply in the red, but we have the #1 economy:P

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Those are my minerals i accidentally left them there a while ago.

But really, i hope some companies actually get to mine it so jobs can be provided. The governments should sell/auction it all of to separate or only one corporation. Companies will provide their own infrastructure if they feel it is worth the supposed trillion dollars.

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I'm not a politician, but how would Americans view the war if Obama mentioned the resources as reason to increase the war effort in Afghanistan?

majwill24

Blood for minerals.

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Hopefully the Taliban is shut down and a proper government established well before they think of taking advantage of that wealth.

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Well, this could all end up like Central Africa: Trillions and trillions of dollars worth of diamonds, gold, etc., but all squandered by constant civil wars, corruption, illegal trade, etc. Hopefully, it doesn't end up that way, but I'm not too optimistic.
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To be fair the US is deeply in the red, but we have the #1 economy:P

dercoo

True, but American credit is orders of magnitude better than Afghan credit.

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America better get the money back it has put into that country from this. I am gonna rage if china swoops in and takes everything. At least there will be something to show for after 9 years of fighting and maybe the country will become a more stable place

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I say we just drop the democracy BS and introduce some good ol' 19th century imperialism to Afghanistan :D

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America better get the money back it has put into that country from this. I am gonna rage if china swoops in and takes everything. At least there will be something to show for after 9 years of fighting and maybe the country will become a more stable place

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The reason the US went into Afghanistan in the first place was because of 9/11. So, we can only really pullout when the Taliban and Bin Laden are completely brought down. This war was never about economic benefit.
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America better get the money back it has put into that country from this. I am gonna rage if china swoops in and takes everything. At least there will be something to show for after 9 years of fighting and maybe the country will become a more stable place

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When fighting injustice, you don't "expect" anything in return besides the gratitude of the people you help. Unless of course, the point of the US being in Afghanistan isn't to fight injustice.

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Balance the books, pay down the deficit! Nobody else wanted to use their Armies to talk down the Taliban, we need to recoup our monetary losses without intervention from the international community.

This should just about cover thefinancial costof bringing'democracy' there, however, the human cost will never be forgotten or repaid...

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That's great news! Afhganistan can now build a new economy to rival the US!

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That would certainly help the country move away from the drug business if this lithium could get people jobs.

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This may bring Afghanistan out of the dark ages. Good news. Hope the government qon't turn the place into another quickly developing facist regime.

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I say we just drop the democracy BS and introduce some good ol' 19th century imperialism to Afghanistan :D

gameguy6700

I don't see it happening, especially in this day and age. Thats a good thing though. It's never good to exploit a country for it's resources. It's not the 19th and 20th century anymore.

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[QUOTE="Buyugold"]

America better get the money back it has put into that country from this. I am gonna rage if china swoops in and takes everything. At least there will be something to show for after 9 years of fighting and maybe the country will become a more stable place

foxhound_fox


When fighting injustice, you don't "expect" anything in return besides the gratitude of the people you help. Unless of course, the point of the US being in Afghanistan isn't to fight injustice.

Do we really want to continue playing the role of world police? Screw that, I'm tired of fighting all these wars and footing the bill with nothing to show for it over here in the states. If we don't take it, it will just end up in one of our competitors or some despot.

This is a golden (lithium? :P ) opportunity to take advantage and make things better for America by at least getting a portion (read: more than half) of those deposits. We should take it. Who's going to stop us? With the books balanced maybe we could get some effective social programs in America for once.

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Balance the books, pay down the deficit! Nobody else wanted to use their Armies to talk down the Taliban, we need to recoup our monetary losses without intervention from the international community.

This should just about cover thefinancial costof bringing'democracy' there, however, the human cost will never be forgotten or repaid...

Ultimas_Blade

I'm sure you are well aware at how aggressive China has been in securing assets in Africa. Expect a repeat of the china iraq oil deal that happened a year ago. dont expect any waves for several years though. China wont take its eyes off the goal, even with the changing of leadership that is coming soon.

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I say we just drop the democracy BS and introduce some good ol' 19th century imperialism to Afghanistan :D

taj7575

I don't see it happening, especially in this day and age. Thats a good thing though. It's never good to exploit a country for it's resources. It's not the 19th and 20th century anymore.

I'm pretty sure he was joking... :P

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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I say we just drop the democracy BS and introduce some good ol' 19th century imperialism to Afghanistan :D

coolbeans90

I don't see it happening, especially in this day and age. Thats a good thing though. It's never good to exploit a country for it's resources. It's not the 19th and 20th century anymore.

I'm pretty sure he was joking... :P

I know he was, but just another point for the hell of it :P

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Wow, what an amazing coincidence. :roll:

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Buyugold"]

America better get the money back it has put into that country from this. I am gonna rage if china swoops in and takes everything. At least there will be something to show for after 9 years of fighting and maybe the country will become a more stable place

Ultimas_Blade


When fighting injustice, you don't "expect" anything in return besides the gratitude of the people you help. Unless of course, the point of the US being in Afghanistan isn't to fight injustice.

Do we really want to continue playing the role of world police? Screw that, I'm tired of fighting all these wars and footing the bill with nothing to show for it over here in the states. If we don't take it, it will just end up in one of our competitors or some despot.

This is a golden (lithium? :P ) opportunity to take advantage and make things better for America by at least getting a portion (read: more than half) of those deposits. We should take it. Who's going to stop us? With the books balanced maybe we could get some effective social programs in America for once.

Eh, we put less than half the value of the assets into the war. I don't really think that it is ours to take anyways. We don't need to be world police, but if we are to be it, doing so does not give us the right, to in an imperialistic fashion, take what may be the greatest hope they have for future development. You want better programs, and although I disagree with the actual policies, I'm pretty sure that the reason you would like them is so Americans will be able to live better lives. Afghanistan. The standards of living there are not comparable to any nation in the modern world. Most in the country places don't have basic services such as electricity or running water. Should we really remove a great part of their ability to join the modern world?

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Do we really want to continue playing the role of world police? Screw that, I'm tired of fighting all these wars and footing the bill with nothing to show for it over here in the states. If we don't take it, it will just end up in one of our competitors or some despot.

This is a golden (lithium? :P ) opportunity to take advantage and make things better for America by at least getting a portion (read: more than half) of those deposits. We should take it. Who's going to stop us? With the books balanced maybe we could get some effective social programs in America for once.

Ultimas_Blade


Firstly, the Afghan's didn't ask for help (the US and other NATO countries invaded to stop Osama bin Laden). Secondly, this belongs to the Afghan people, so the US has no claim over it, so if they try to "claim" this for "war reparations" they could face serious issues with the UN. This should benefit SOLELY the Afghan people, and the US should be footing their own bill, they got involved to stop someone they wanted to catch and try for a crime on their soil. They didn't NEED to get involved in the local conflict, but they did.

I'm Canadian, and I'm paying taxes, and I don't care that Canada isn't getting "paid" for their help in Afghanistan, aside from the gratitude the people who we help give to us for helping them. This is the difference between the US and Canadian mindset when it comes to getting involve in world conflicts... and probably why the US hasn't gotten involved in Sudan.

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Don't worry, if there's one thing our government is EXCELLENT at, it's profiting off the natural resources of a more impoverished people.

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Don't worry, if there's one thing our government is EXCELLENT at, it's profiting off the natural resources of a more impoverished people.

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Hmm..Nowhere in that article points to anything that says we're going to feed off of their lithium deposits..

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[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

Don't worry, if there's one thing our government is EXCELLENT at, it's profiting off the natural resources of a more impoverished people.

taj7575

Hmm..Nowhere in that article points to anything that says we're going to feed off of their lithium deposits..

My post was in response to the people who said we need to find a way to make some money back off of this bloody war. Can't help it if that's what our government is best at :P.

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#40 majwill24
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"] Do we really want to continue playing the role of world police? Screw that, I'm tired of fighting all these wars and footing the bill with nothing to show for it over here in the states. If we don't take it, it will just end up in one of our competitors or some despot.

This is a golden (lithium? :P ) opportunity to take advantage and make things better for America by at least getting a portion (read: more than half) of those deposits. We should take it. Who's going to stop us? With the books balanced maybe we could get some effective social programs in America for once.

foxhound_fox


Firstly, the Afghan's didn't ask for help (the US and other NATO countries invaded to stop Osama bin Laden). Secondly, this belongs to the Afghan people, so the US has no claim over it, so if they try to "claim" this for "war reparations" they could face serious issues with the UN. This should benefit SOLELY the Afghan people, and the US should be footing their own bill, they got involved to stop someone they wanted to catch and try for a crime on their soil. They didn't NEED to get involved in the local conflict, but they did.

I'm Canadian, and I'm paying taxes, and I don't care that Canada isn't getting "paid" for their help in Afghanistan, aside from the gratitude the people who we help give to us for helping them. This is the difference between the US and Canadian mindset when it comes to getting involve in world conflicts... and probably why the US hasn't gotten involved in Sudan.

According to the article, the US is helping the Afghan government set up a bidding process for international companies. The US doesnt have any domestic assets to mine those minerals. Sure they could theoretically try to reinforce sometime in the future, but I think it will be too late by then. I expect the Chinese to get huge percentage, directly and indirectly through companies in which they have significant shares.

But I could be misjudging the Americans. A US official called Canadas oil " Our oil" when China started to move in. the US is very protective of its resource satellite, Canada, so they could get quite bold in Afghanistan since that war isnt perceived as an unjust act of aggression

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#41 Ultimas_Blade
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"] Do we really want to continue playing the role of world police? Screw that, I'm tired of fighting all these wars and footing the bill with nothing to show for it over here in the states. If we don't take it, it will just end up in one of our competitors or some despot.

This is a golden (lithium? :P ) opportunity to take advantage and make things better for America by at least getting a portion (read: more than half) of those deposits. We should take it. Who's going to stop us? With the books balanced maybe we could get some effective social programs in America for once.

foxhound_fox


Firstly, the Afghan's didn't ask for help (the US and other NATO countries invaded to stop Osama bin Laden). Secondly, this belongs to the Afghan people, so the US has no claim over it, so if they try to "claim" this for "war reparations" they could face serious issues with the UN. This should benefit SOLELY the Afghan people, and the US should be footing their own bill, they got involved to stop someone they wanted to catch and try for a crime on their soil. They didn't NEED to get involved in the local conflict, but they did.

I'm Canadian, and I'm paying taxes, and I don't care that Canada isn't getting "paid" for their help in Afghanistan, aside from the gratitude the people who we help give to us for helping them. This is the difference between the US and Canadian mindset when it comes to getting involve in world conflicts... and probably why the US hasn't gotten involved in Sudan.

I know that we likely won't see much ifany of this find filling our coffers, but I didn't like the way this was run from the outset. Afghanistan should have been a completely covert war. Iraq really should have happened it the first place.

I know it isn't the politically correct thing to say, but screw that. We have a hole to fill and we just found a pile of dirt, somebody get the dump truck. If we want to be fair, why not employ the Afghans to mine it for us? Everybody wins. I just don't want to see another country grab it.

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#42 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="majwill24"]

I'm not a politician, but how would Americans view the war if Obama mentioned the resources as reason to increase the war effort in Afghanistan?

entropyecho

Blood for minerals.

This basically. It will be seen as a war for "oil" basically.
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#43 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I say we just drop the democracy BS and introduce some good ol' 19th century imperialism to Afghanistan :D

taj7575

I don't see it happening, especially in this day and age. Thats a good thing though. It's never good to exploit a country for it's resources. It's not the 19th and 20th century anymore.

You're right, it's never good...except when your country stands to make over 1 trillion dollars in which case it's awesome.
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#44 Z0MBIES
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Hopefully that will help massively to stabilize the region, and could also help reduce the amount of opium in the world. Still a long way off till it really gets going though.
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#45 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

Don't worry, if there's one thing our government is EXCELLENT at, it's profiting off the natural resources of a more impoverished people.

MystikFollower

Hmm..Nowhere in that article points to anything that says we're going to feed off of their lithium deposits..

My post was in response to the people who said we need to find a way to make some money back off of this bloody war. Can't help it if that's what our government is best at :P.

Actually, if you think about it, not really. We never made anything back from the Korean War, nor the Vietnam War. We didn't gain anything from either or the rest of our wars in the later half of the 20th century.

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#46 muffincakes87
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They're going to need a lot of SCV's.

:P

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#47 taj7575
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[QUOTE="majwill24"]

I'm not a politician, but how would Americans view the war if Obama mentioned the resources as reason to increase the war effort in Afghanistan?

entropyecho

Blood for minerals.

Blood Minerals. Expect it to come out in theaters soon! Starring Leonardo DiCaprio!

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#48 foxhound_fox
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I know it isn't the politically correct thing to say, but screw that. We have a hole to fill and we just found a pile of dirt, somebody get the dump truck. If we want to be fair, why not employ the Afghans to mine it for us? Everybody wins. I just don't want to see another country grab it.

Ultimas_Blade


Like the Afghans...? :|

This is by no means any right of the Americans. I would hope the soldiers think they are helping out of the goodness of their hearts, and not looking for financial reparation. We are helping these people free themselves from the oppression of the Taliban and their extreme interpretation of Islam, which degenerates women and harms the society. Not so we could take advantage of their natural resources. Their largest economical contribution to the world is being the leading producer in raw opium... they need every last gram of this discovery in order to develop a new economy that helps them become a better country with an average death age higher than 40 years.

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#49 mrbojangles25
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I suddenly find this war entirely justified.

and yes, I am serious.

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#50 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

I'm not a politician, but how would Americans view the war if Obama mentioned the resources as reason to increase the war effort in Afghanistan?

taj7575

Blood for minerals.

Blood Minerals. Expect it to come out in theaters soon! Starring Leonardo DiCaprio!

That movie made me cry :(