U.S. Presidents - Who was the best?

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#1 kinky_king
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in your opinions, who was the over all best president the United States ever had>?

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#2 spazzx625
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*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln. 

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#3 The_Zoid
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I would say either Abe Lincoln or Franklin Roosevelt.
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#4 THE_DRUGGIE
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Either JFK or FDR.
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#5 MVfalcons83
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If Michael Jackson was president i'd pick him ;)

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#6 freakyzeeky1986
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Franklin D... 8)
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#7 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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Jefferson Davis!

j/k :P

George Washington or Thomas Jefferson.

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#8 Account_27
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George Washington.
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#9 fidosim
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Andrew Jackson.  Hardass.
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FDR.

 If somebody said Andrew Jackson I would LOL.

Abe has some things going for him, but I think he's a bit overrated.   

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Teddy.
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lmfaooo jefferson davis

get a confederate flag, a sun burn and cook up some tube steaks

WOOT!

the reason i dont really like Lincoln is cuz he dint really believe in equality. He just was afraid of a black revolt since there were so many by the 1860s. He also made the emancipation proclamation before the end of the war. Cocky if you ask me.

"How do we kill a giant Abraham Lincoln"

"A giant John Wilkes Booth"

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FDR.

 If somebody said Andrew Jackson I would LOL.

Abe has some things going for him, but I think he's a bit overrated.   

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Oh snap!

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William Taft. I don't know anything about his presidency buy he has an awesome name.

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FDR without a doubt.
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#16 TugboatTheGreat
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Either FDR or Eisenhower.
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#17 GeForce2187
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William Henry Harrison:

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*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln. 

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I think its funny how people don't realize that when Lincoln was in office, no one liked him and now he is considered to be one of the best presidents. People wanted him to just give up on the war. Sounds like someone we all know.

....And they say history repeats itself....

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William Henry Harrison:

GeForce2187

He died within a month of inauguration 

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lmfaooo jefferson davis

get a confederate flag, a sun burn and cook up some tube steaks

WOOT!

the reason i dont really like Lincoln is cuz he dint really believe in equality. He just was afraid of a black revolt since there were so many by the 1860s. He also made the emancipation proclamation before the end of the war. Cocky if you ask me.

"How do we kill a giant Abraham Lincoln"

"A giant John Wilkes Booth"

kinky_king

Not to mention the Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually free any slaves, as it states "all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free."

Basically, only slaves in states that Lincoln had no control over were "freed", where as all the slaves in West Virginia, Delaware, etc. were kept enslaved.  The only reason the thing was written was to deter England from entering the war on the side of the South, as England was morally opposed to slavery, and if the war had the appearance a moral crusade against slavery, then England would back out.  The EP was a brilliant piece of political BS.  It did nothing but keep England out of the war.

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[QUOTE="GeForce2187"]

William Henry Harrison:

spazzx625

He died within a month of inauguration 

Haha, so nobody had a chance to start hating him. :P  Every president ends up being hated my a good bit of the people.

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[QUOTE="GeForce2187"]

William Henry Harrison:

spazzx625

He died within a month of inauguration

If only all politicians could follow his example... 

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#23 acviper123
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My favorites were Lincoln, Teddy Rosevelt, FDR, and Washington.
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FDR.

If somebody said Andrew Jackson I would LOL.

Abe has some things going for him, but I think he's a bit overrated.

fidosim

Oh snap!

Lol...no offense, the man wasn't too bright.  He lacked the understanding that would have made an effective president.  His war against the Bank of the United States made things worse rather than better from an economic perspective, and just thinking about his "kitchen cabinet" makes LOL.  FDR was on the right track with his Brain Trust.  Furthermore, some people say that because Jackson didn't move to crush South Carolina in the nullification crisis, it emoldened them years later to be the first to secede from the Union, and therefore, this hardass's lack of force in this situation may be interpreted as a catalyst behind the civil war which would tear the nation apart and costs hundreds of thousands of lives.  Of course, this is speculation, but nevertheless.  As far as being badasses go, my vote would go to Teddy Roosevelt.  Now that guy was crazy.  In a good way.
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#25 The_Zoid
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]

*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln.

RoyTheViking

I think its funny how people don't realize that when Lincoln was in office, no one liked him and now he is considered to be one of the best presidents. People wanted him to just give up on the war. Sounds like someone we all know.

....And they say history repeats itself....

DUN DUN DUN :o
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#26 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]

*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln.

RoyTheViking

I think its funny how people don't realize that when Lincoln was in office, no one liked him and now he is considered to be one of the best presidents. People wanted him to just give up on the war. Sounds like someone we all know.

....And they say history repeats itself....

Vote The Hamburglar 2008 

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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]

*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln.

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I think its funny how people don't realize that when Lincoln was in office, no one liked him and now he is considered to be one of the best presidents. People wanted him to just give up on the war. Sounds like someone we all know.

....And they say history repeats itself....

DUN DUN DUN :o

I'd bet my life that bush will never be appreciated any more in the future than he is in the present. 
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fdr and george washington.
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[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="eo12601"]

FDR.

If somebody said Andrew Jackson I would LOL.

Abe has some things going for him, but I think he's a bit overrated.

eo12601

Oh snap!

Lol...no offense, the man wasn't too bright.  He lacked the understanding that would have made an effective president.  His war against the Bank of the United States made things worse rather than better from an economic perspective, and just thinking about his "kitchen cabinet" makes LOL.  FDR was on the right track with his Brain Trust.  Furthermore, some people say that because Jackson didn't move to crush South Carolina in the nullification crisis, it emoldened them years later to be the first to secede from the Union, and therefore, this hardass's lack of force in this situation may be interpreted as a catalyst behind the civil war which would tear the nation apart and costs hundreds of thousands of lives.  Of course, this is speculation, but nevertheless.  As far as being badasses go, my vote would go to Teddy Roosevelt.  Now that guy was crazy.  In a good way.

Well, he didn't put down SC because he and they were of like mind.  They both favored small government, et.  Hence his war against the bank of America.  He felt that the government shouldn't have the right to form a bank, much like SC thought that states should have the right to nullify federal laws that they felt were unconstitutional and secede from the Union.

I do agree, though, he wasn't too bright.  He just made very bad decisions economically,many of which didn't come to fruitation until Van Buren's presidency, and he ended up getting blamed for all the mistakes by Jackson, in his bid for re-election.

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18th century - George Wahington, he didn't let the government make him a king. 19th century - Abraham Lincoln, he preserved the union. 20th century - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, he saved our bacon during the Depression. 21th century - who ever in elected in 2008.
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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]

*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln.

spazzx625

I think its funny how people don't realize that when Lincoln was in office, no one liked him and now he is considered to be one of the best presidents. People wanted him to just give up on the war. Sounds like someone we all know.

....And they say history repeats itself....

Vote The Hamburglar 2008

You may go to Hell, sir, and I shall vote for Mayor McCheese!

President McCheese in 08! 

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FDR without a doubt.
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[QUOTE="The_Zoid"][QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]

*hopes someone says Ben Franklin*

I'm a big fan of the Lincoln.

eo12601

I think its funny how people don't realize that when Lincoln was in office, no one liked him and now he is considered to be one of the best presidents. People wanted him to just give up on the war. Sounds like someone we all know.

....And they say history repeats itself....

DUN DUN DUN :o

I'd bet my life that bush will never be appreciated any more in the future than he is in the present. 

I didn't say he would. I'm just saying that its possible.

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#35 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]

Vote The Hamburglar 2008

ElZilcho90

You may go to Hell, sir, and I shall vote for Mayor McCheese!

President McCheese in 08!

Dude, Hamburglar would just steal his head... 

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18th century - George Wahington, he didn't let the government make him a king. 19th century - Abraham Lincoln, he preserved the union. 20th century - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, he saved our bacon during the Depression. 21th century - who ever in elected in 2008.prettyedy
WWII saved us, and the rest of the world, from the depression, NOT Roosevelt.
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JFK  Abraham Lincoln  FDR
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#38 ElZilcho90
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[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]

Vote The Hamburglar 2008

spazzx625

You may go to Hell, sir, and I shall vote for Mayor McCheese!

President McCheese in 08!

Dude, Hamburglar would just steal his head...

And you would vote for such an unscrupulous knave!

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FDR(lead us thro WWII) , Lincoln (lead the north thro the civil war...he wanted to take out slavery in the south) , and JFK (i like how he supported our space race with the soviets )
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#40 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]

Vote The Hamburglar 2008

ElZilcho90

You may go to Hell, sir, and I shall vote for Mayor McCheese!

President McCheese in 08!

Dude, Hamburglar would just steal his head...

And you would vote for such an unscrupulous knave!

  

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George Bush because he is not a book.
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Tough choice between G.W. and FDR
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#43 ElZilcho90
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[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]

Vote The Hamburglar 2008

spazzx625

You may go to Hell, sir, and I shall vote for Mayor McCheese!

President McCheese in 08!

Dude, Hamburglar would just steal his head...

And you would vote for such an unscrupulous knave!

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[QUOTE="prettyedy"]18th century - George Wahington, he didn't let the government make him a king. 19th century - Abraham Lincoln, he preserved the union. 20th century - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, he saved our bacon during the Depression. 21th century - who ever in elected in 2008.makingmusic476
WWII saved us, and the rest of the world, from the depression, NOT Roosevelt.

Right, reopening banks the New Deals (giving thousands of jobs to unemployed Americans with things likethe Civilian Conservation Corps) didn't do anything. Yes, the War brought jobs and helped our economy but you can't deny all the things Roosevelt did in his first term. 

Please, spread you're BS somewhere else.

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Ohhh, you want to play hardball...

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Ohhh, you want to play hardball...

spazzx625

 Grr... bloody Calculus final tomorrow morning...

You may have won this round, Spazz, but mark my words: the McCheesian Platform will triumph! 

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*does a dance then goes back to planning Hamburglars platform and campaign*
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In my opinion, either Andrew Jackson or James Polk.
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Taft rules!
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the reason i dont really like Lincoln is cuz he dint really believe in equality. He just was afraid of a black revolt since there were so many by the 1860s. He also made the emancipation proclamation before the end of the war. Cocky if you ask me. kinky_king

Cocky?  No, it saved his ass.  After stopping a few British ships from trading with the South, England was ready to go to war with the North.  The EP kept them and also the French from joining the South. 

Anyway, I think Abe Lincoln was the best president.  Just the way he was and how he handled the war.  He was willing to peacefully bring the defeated Southern states back into the Union without having to pay or anything.  Sadly, some Southerners didn't see that.  edit: I'm surprised so many people said George Washington.  He was a good general and had good intentions, but was weak as president.