V for Vendetta vs. Watchmen? (graphic novels)

Both are very highly regarded graphic novels by Alan Moore, each with great characters and stories.

So, which do you prefer?

Although I loved Watchmen (I just finished reading it) and was particularly fascinated by the characters of Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan (I also found The Comedian and Ozymandias to be very interesting characters), I'd have to say I preferred V for Vendetta.

EDIT: Please DO NOT vote for either V for Vendetta or Watchmen in the poll if you have not read the graphic novels.

I haven't finished V for Vendetta, yet but based on what I have read, I prefer Watchmen. I feel more connection and interest in the characters than I do with V. But both are brilliant graphic novels.

I've only seen the movies and I prefer V. Watchmen was a mess as a film. biggest_loser

I can see where the movie adaptation of Watchmen would be messy if you hadn't read the novel beforehand. But with that being said, the Watchmen movie was much more faithful to the source material and I found it to be one of my favorites of the year. What I'm really trying to say is, please read the graphic novel. :P

I haven't finished V for Vendetta, yet but based on what I have read, I prefer Watchmen. I feel more connection and interest in the characters than I do with V. But both are brilliant graphic novels.

Dark_Knight6

I really liked the characters of Rorschach, Dr. Manhattan, The Comedian, and Ozymandias, but didn't find the second Nite Owl or the first or second Silk Spectre to be particularly interesting characters. That's just my opinion, though.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I've only seen the movies and I prefer V. Watchmen was a mess as a film. Dark_Knight6

I can see where the movie adaptation of Watchmen would be messy if you hadn't read the novel beforehand. But with that being said, the Watchmen movie was much more faithful to the source material and I found it to be one of my favorites of the year. What I'm really trying to say is, please read the graphic novel. :P

I actually saw Watchmen before reading it and didn't have much trouble understanding it. I do think the graphic novel was much better, though. I particularly love the story from the comic book within Watchmen (of the man attempting to reach home, attacked by sharks, etc.), which wasn't present in the movie. I'm not surprised, though, it would have been really hard to work into the movie without confusing the audience. Hell, I found myself at least moderately confused for a while while reading those parts.

I really liked the characters of Rorschach, Dr. Manhattan, The Comedian, and Ozymandias, but didn't find the second Nite Owl or the first or second Silk Spectre to be particularly interesting characters. That's just my opinion, though.

chessmaster1989

I really liked the second Nite Owl. Honestly, the only character that I just plain didn't like was Silk Spectre II. She just felt "there," to me.

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I really liked the characters of Rorschach, Dr. Manhattan, The Comedian, and Ozymandias, but didn't find the second Nite Owl or the first or second Silk Spectre to be particularly interesting characters. That's just my opinion, though.

Dark_Knight6

I really liked the second Nite Owl. Honestly, the only character that I just plain didn't like was Silk Spectre II. She just felt "there," to me.

I agree on Silk Spectre II. I just didn't find Nite Owl II very interesting. He seemed to me a fairly boring character, particularly compared with the four I liked. Nothing he did was anywhere near as fascinating as the history (entertwined with the present) of Dr. Manhattan and his conversation with Silk Spectre II on Mars (Dr. Manhattan was really what made that interesting), pretty much anything Rorschach did (and, also, Rorschach's description of The Comedian), and Ozymandias' discussion of his plan for peace and of Alexander the Great.

That's just my opinion, though :P.

I read Watchmen and I was like meh... this is the thing every one was hyping? It didn't seem better than a lot of the modern comics out now I've been reading.

I haven't read V for Vendetta though, I plan on reading the LoEG later after I finish 100 Bullets.

I actually saw Watchmen before reading it and didn't have much trouble understanding it. I do think the graphic novel was much better, though. I particularly love the story from the comic book within Watchmen (of the man attempting to reach home, attacked by sharks, etc.), which wasn't present in the movie. I'm not surprised, though, it would have been really hard to work into the movie without confusing the audience. Hell, I found myself at least moderately confused for a while while reading those parts.

chessmaster1989

Well, it varies from person to person, I suppose. And they made an animated film of the Black Freighter, starring Gerard Butler. I recall hearing that the special edition DVD of Watchmen will come with a version of the movie where the animated film is shown during the actual film. And I believe that's the exact reason why they chose not to include it. The movie would have been much longer and much more confusing, for the general audience.

I've only seen the movies and I prefer V. Watchmen was a mess as a film. biggest_loser

I agree on Silk Spectre II. I just didn't find Nite Owl II very interesting. He seemed to me a fairly boring character, particularly compared with the four I liked. Nothing he did was anywhere near as fascinating as the history (entertwined with the present) of Dr. Manhattan and his conversation with Silk Spectre II on Mars (Dr. Manhattan was really what made that interesting), pretty much anything Rorschach did (and, also, Rorschach's description of The Comedian), and Ozymandias' discussion of his plan for peace and of Alexander the Great.

That's just my opinion, though :P.

chessmaster1989

While Manhattan's my favorite (and the part on Mars was just plain fantastic), I found Nite Owl II to be the most relate-able and I think that's why I like him. I suppose because he's the most "normal" of the cast. But I agree with you when you say that those four are more interesting, overall.

And when I say "cast," I exclude Silk Spectre II because she was just plain awful. :P

While Manhattan's my favorite (and the part on Mars was just plain fantastic), I found Nite Owl II to be the most relate-able and I think that's why I like him. I suppose because he's the most "normal" of the cast. But I agree with you when you say that those four are more interesting, overall.

And when I say "cast," I exclude Silk Spectre II because she was just plain awful. :P

Dark_Knight6

ye but she was damn finee though even if she was flat chested

V for Vendetta was good, but Watchmen is on a level no other comin ever reached.

Watchmen is the better book, the movies are both sub-par...

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I agree on Silk Spectre II. I just didn't find Nite Owl II very interesting. He seemed to me a fairly boring character, particularly compared with the four I liked. Nothing he did was anywhere near as fascinating as the history (entertwined with the present) of Dr. Manhattan and his conversation with Silk Spectre II on Mars (Dr. Manhattan was really what made that interesting), pretty much anything Rorschach did (and, also, Rorschach's description of The Comedian), and Ozymandias' discussion of his plan for peace and of Alexander the Great.

That's just my opinion, though :P.

Dark_Knight6

While Manhattan's my favorite (and the part on Mars was just plain fantastic), I found Nite Owl II to be the most relate-able and I think that's why I like him. I suppose because he's the most "normal" of the cast. But I agree with you when you say that those four are more interesting, overall.

And when I say "cast," I exclude Silk Spectre II because she was just plain awful. :P

Yes, I do know what you mean when you say Nite Owl II is the most relatable, though I still don't think he's a very interesting character, which is why I wasn't too fond of him.

However, I'd say that part of the reason I liked V for Vendetta more was the scene where V "converses" with the statue of justice. I just love that scene.

watchmen

Watchmen. And neither movie is as good as the books.mattykovax

I can not make an wise decision as I have not read V for Vendetta. But, I will say Watchmen is an awesome graphic novel, with amazing characters, storyline, and progression. My only gripe is the way Ozymandias chose to kill millions/billions of people...how the **** did he create that thing?

Watchmen. My favourite Alan Moore work after that is From Hell, followed by V and then his run on Swamp Thing. League was so-so for me.

EDIT: and all of the films based on Moore books didn't work, IMO. Which isn't surprising. Comics are a medium of their own. Works like Watchmen (which showcase what can be done in the medium) obviously aren't going to translate into film easily.

I can not make an wise decision as I have not read V for Vendetta. But, I will say Watchmen is an awesome graphic novel, with amazing characters, storyline, and progression. My only gripe is the way Ozymandias chose to kill millions/billions of people...how the **** did he create that thing?

clayron

Three million, approximately. And, I actually found myself agreeing with Rorscach at the end.

I vote for Watchmen. I loved the novel and the movie is actually not that bad :D

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I can not make an wise decision as I have not read V for Vendetta. But, I will say Watchmen is an awesome graphic novel, with amazing characters, storyline, and progression. My only gripe is the way Ozymandias chose to kill millions/billions of people...how the **** did he create that thing?

chessmaster1989

Three million, approximately. And, I actually found myself agreeing with Rorscach at the end.

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]Watchmen. And neither movie is as good as the books.mindstorm

Well, the ending in the book was kind of...out there. Changing it made sense when you think of the average movie-goer.

ye but she was damn finee though even if she was flat chested

PimpiNbananas

I'm assuming you're talking about her in the movie. And if that's the case, her terrible acting kept from noticing anything else about her. :P

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ye but she was damn finee though even if she was flat chested

Dark_Knight6

I'm assuming you're talking about her in the movie. And if that's the case, her terrible acting kept from noticing anything else about her. :P

I was actually happy with the acting for the most part in the movie. I seem to remember the actors who played Rorschach, Dr. Manhattan, and The Comedian all doing very well and most of the rest doing well. Whoever played Silk Spectre II was absolutely horrible, though.

I've only seen the movies and I prefer V. Watchmen was a mess as a film. biggest_loser

Exactly what I was going to saw.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Watchmen. And neither movie is as good as the books.Dark_Knight6

Well, the ending in the book was kind of...out there. Changing it made sense when you think of the average movie-goer.

After reading the graphic novel, I must say its ending was much better than in the movie. I do agree somewhat at least that the one in the movie was easier to understand in movie form than the one in the novel would have been.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I've only seen the movies and I prefer V. Watchmen was a mess as a film. McJugga

Exactly what I was going to saw.

As movies, it's hard to say, but I perhaps preferred Watchmen (I watched both of the movies before reading the graphic novels, though). What really struck me after reading both graphic novels is how dramatically (and, in my opinion, for the worse) the movies altered the endings of the graphic novels.

While V for Vendetta has a more interesting premise I think Watchmen wins because it has better characters.

Watchmen, hands down. Also the movie was great. The directors cut was really awesome.

V for Vendetta. I thought the movie was better than the graphic novel.

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[QUOTE="clayron"]

I can not make an wise decision as I have not read V for Vendetta. But, I will say Watchmen is an awesome graphic novel, with amazing characters, storyline, and progression. My only gripe is the way Ozymandias chose to kill millions/billions of people...how the **** did he create that thing?

mindstorm

Three million, approximately. And, I actually found myself agreeing with Rorscach at the end.

I did as well. I admired his unquestioning loyalty to honestly and, as much as it could be called, his sense of justice. I mean, he was unwavering in his beliefs even until his own end.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Three million, approximately. And, I actually found myself agreeing with Rorscach at the end.

clayron

I did as well. I admired his unquestioning loyalty to honestly and, as much as it could be called, his sense of justice. I mean, he was unwavering in his beliefs even until his own end.

Agreed. I just love that one quote of his at the end, "No. Not even in the face of armageddon. Never compromise."

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]Watchmen. And neither movie is as good as the books.mindstorm

Im only half way through V for vendetta ,its a great graphic novel but watchmen seemed so much better.

read both, prefer watchmen. I liked the art alot better and found it a much better story and more interesting characters. My favourite is NIte Owl II,he is the most normal of all the characters and is really relatable.

i only saw watchmen and i thought V was stupid. Watchmen was brutal and i absolutely loved it.

I've seen both the movies and read Watchmen, but I can't find V to save my life. I prefer the V movie over the Watchmen movie, though.