V6 Mustang yay or nay?

i wanna get a car thats sort of fast but good on gas, this is what im leaning towards right now. Im thinking from the year 03 to 05. Has anyone ever owned one and do you think it will fit the bill for me or do you have another reccomondation. Thanks

All modern cars are about as fast as a V6 Mustang, and those years have terrible MPG 17-21. (not to mention they're ugly)

The modernized 60-70's cars are just big, dumb, oafish cars.

All modern cars are about as fast as a V6 Mustang, and those years have terrible MPG 17-21. (not to mention they're ugly)

The modernized 60-70's cars are just big, dumb, oafish cars.

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A V6 Mustang? No not really a great car to own, however they're excellent cars if you want to make some quick cash. They can be bought cheap, fixed up, and sold to teenage girls who don't want V8s.

Nay unless your penis is an innie and you want to be like everybody else out there. I see between 5 and 10 every single day just driving the 15 minutes to and from work. My boyfriend bought an 04 and I am not a fan(It wasn't very good on gas, even as a manual), nor am I of his parents' 09 or 10, I can't remember which. All flash, no real substance. As far as I'm aware, there are new Hondas and stuff that are just as 'fast' as muscle cars but are WAY better on gas. I'm not a big car buff, but I am not a fan of people buying these ridiculous vehicles for so much more than they're worth just because they're vehicle viagra and people see them as a status symbol. They're not, anymore. Every other person has one.XilePrincess

Some people just like cars. But, you're right about Mustangs being too common I see a dozen or more per day, often more if I'm driving alot.

Definite nay. To me the mustang is great because of the style and power. Both are not mutually exclusive. They go hand and hand. I could not have one without the other.

V6 Mustang wasn't very good prior to 2011.

I'll add another vote for an impreza wrx if you don't mind paying more for parts on an import. Buick regals and rivieras have supercharged v6's under the hood putting out 225 hp from the factory and with a few modifications will put out 400+ no problem, these will blow away mustangs all day. 2001-02 trans ams are fairly quick too if you're only interested in muscle cars.

Do NOT get an 03-04 (or any in that generation) V6 mustang. I had one. They're dog slow and get HORRIBLE mileage. I was lucky to get 12mgp out of my 6.

All modern cars are about as fast as a V6 Mustang, and those years have terrible MPG 17-21. (not to mention they're ugly)

The modernized 60-70's cars are just big, dumb, oafish cars.

Inconsistancy

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All modern cars are about as fast as a V6 Mustang, and those years have terrible MPG 17-21. (not to mention they're ugly)

The modernized 60-70's cars are just big, dumb, oafish cars.

Pirate700

Not compared to today's standards. I get 25 mpg highway and 19 city with a 5.7L V8.

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All modern cars are about as fast as a V6 Mustang, and those years have terrible MPG 17-21. (not to mention they're ugly)

The modernized 60-70's cars are just big, dumb, oafish cars.

SpartanMSU

Not compared to today's standards. I get 25 mpg highway and 19 city with a 5.7L V8.

I agree the V6 03-04 were crap. Now if you tend to lean towards that body style. I would just go for a GT, Mach 1 or Cobra from that year. You can generally find them well priced. If not i would go with the WRX. Possibly the best bang for your buck on that.

I agree the V6 03-04 were crap. Now if you tend to lean towards that body style. I would just go for a GT, Mach 1 or Cobra from that year. You can generally find them well priced. If not i would go with the WRX. Possibly the best bang for your buck on that.

doesntcare

yay

V6 Mustangs are not fast unless you get a 2011 or newer. The 2005-10 models are respectable, but just about average in terms of acceleration for a modern car. V6 Mustangs older than 2005 are a disgrace.

Nay unless your penis is an innie and you want to be like everybody else out there. I see between 5 and 10 every single day just driving the 15 minutes to and from work. My boyfriend bought an 04 and I am not a fan(It wasn't very good on gas, even as a manual), nor am I of his parents' 09 or 10, I can't remember which. All flash, no real substance. As far as I'm aware, there are new Hondas and stuff that are just as 'fast' as muscle cars but are WAY better on gas. I'm not a big car buff, but I am not a fan of people buying these ridiculous vehicles for so much more than they're worth just because they're vehicle viagra and people see them as a status symbol. They're not, anymore. Every other person has one.XilePrincess

There aren't any new Hondas that I'm aware of that can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, a 1/4 mile in 13.9, and get 30mpg on the highway as well. That's what a new V6 Mustang can do. If you get the GT, Boss 302, or GT500, there is no stock Honda that's even close in acceleration. Plus those cars all get 24-27 mpg on the highway. Modern muscle cars aren't as impractical as a lot of people seem to think.

There is also a factor that any real driving enthusiast will appreciate- Driving dynamics. Go drive a V6 Accord and then drive a 2011+ Mustang or 2009+ Camaro. Rear wheel drive makes a car feel right. I've had fast front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars. There is no comparison.

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Nay unless your penis is an innie and you want to be like everybody else out there. I see between 5 and 10 every single day just driving the 15 minutes to and from work. My boyfriend bought an 04 and I am not a fan(It wasn't very good on gas, even as a manual), nor am I of his parents' 09 or 10, I can't remember which. All flash, no real substance. As far as I'm aware, there are new Hondas and stuff that are just as 'fast' as muscle cars but are WAY better on gas. I'm not a big car buff, but I am not a fan of people buying these ridiculous vehicles for so much more than they're worth just because they're vehicle viagra and people see them as a status symbol. They're not, anymore. Every other person has one.hartsickdiscipl

There aren't any new Hondas that I'm aware of that can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, a 1/4 mile in 13.9, and get 30mpg on the highway as well. That's what a new V6 Mustang can do. If you get the GT, Boss 302, or GT500, there is no stock Honda that's even close in acceleration. Plus those cars all get 24-27 mpg on the highway. Modern muscle cars aren't as impractical as a lot of people seem to think.

There is also a factor that any real driving enthusiast will appreciate- Driving dynamics. Go drive a V6 Accord and then drive a 2011+ Mustang or 2009+ Camaro. Rear wheel drive makes a car feel right. I've had fast front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars. There is no comparison.

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Nay unless your penis is an innie and you want to be like everybody else out there. I see between 5 and 10 every single day just driving the 15 minutes to and from work. My boyfriend bought an 04 and I am not a fan(It wasn't very good on gas, even as a manual), nor am I of his parents' 09 or 10, I can't remember which. All flash, no real substance. As far as I'm aware, there are new Hondas and stuff that are just as 'fast' as muscle cars but are WAY better on gas. I'm not a big car buff, but I am not a fan of people buying these ridiculous vehicles for so much more than they're worth just because they're vehicle viagra and people see them as a status symbol. They're not, anymore. Every other person has one.Fightingfan

There aren't any new Hondas that I'm aware of that can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, a 1/4 mile in 13.9, and get 30mpg on the highway as well. That's what a new V6 Mustang can do. If you get the GT, Boss 302, or GT500, there is no stock Honda that's even close in acceleration. Plus those cars all get 24-27 mpg on the highway. Modern muscle cars aren't as impractical as a lot of people seem to think.

There is also a factor that any real driving enthusiast will appreciate- Driving dynamics. Go drive a V6 Accord and then drive a 2011+ Mustang or 2009+ Camaro. Rear wheel drive makes a car feel right. I've had fast front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars. There is no comparison.

The new NSX will be a supercar, and will probably cost several times what a Mustang does. The 4-cylinder S2000 was (not in production any more) very quick, but didn't get good gas mileage. It has an extremely high-strung engine. A V6 Mustang is as fast or slightly quicker depending on gearing, and gets better mileage.

The new NSX will be a supercar, and will probably cost several times what a Mustang does. The 4-cylinder S2000 is very quick, but doesn't get good gas mileage. It's an extremely high-strung engine. A V6 Mustang is as fast or slightly quicker depending on gearing, and gets better mileage.hartsickdiscipl

Better get a Mustang over a Camero. So, yes, get the Mustang.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]The new NSX will be a supercar, and will probably cost several times what a Mustang does. The 4-cylinder S2000 is very quick, but doesn't get good gas mileage. It's an extremely high-strung engine. A V6 Mustang is as fast or slightly quicker depending on gearing, and gets better mileage.Zeviander

A turbocharged SI isn't a production model car. Why are we talking about heavily modifying cars here? By the time you turbo a new SI and get it on the road, you will have spent close to 30 grand, which will buy you a 420hp Mustang GT. Not to mention that it's front-wheel drive, which is inherently inferior. "Driveability" is a term usually used to describe how a car drives without wringing the crap out of the engine. A 3.7 liter V6 with 280 lb/ft of torque and great midrange power will have better driveability than a turbocharged 4-cylinder 9 times out of 10. Plus the engine in the Civic SI is a 2.4 liter now, which doesn't get notably good gas mileage. The fuel economy will only get worse by adding a turbo. The Subaru BR-Z is a great, fun driver's car, but not very fast. I love the look and feel of the car, but you should really get more horsepower and torque for that much money. A Charger SRT-8 is no faster than a Mustang GT 5.0 yet costs 10 to 15 grand more. 470 horsepower is largely wasted in a 4200-4300lb tub. Not to mention that it's a Mopar, which means that you're getting about the worst long-term dependability possible on this side of the Atlantic. If you want to go "full beast," the Boss 302, GT500, Camaro ZL1, CTS-V, or any Corvette fit that bill. The only thing Dodge has to offer that can compete is the new Viper, which is six-figure car.

When I say these things, I say them from the perspective of someone who has owned multiple imports and domestics, front and rear-wheel drive. I raced semi-professionally for almost 4 seasons, and saw what does and doesn't hold up to beatings. Dodges just can't take the heat as well. They look great, sound great, go pretty fast, but that's it. Ford is currently your best bet for domestic quality, with Chevy close behind. You can beat the holy hell out of a Nissan Z-car and it will take it. Honda is still good, but other companies have caught up in recent years in terms of quality. They're nearly irrelevant in the world of new performance cars now. I hope the new NSX can change that.

Jeez hartsick, when you think your right, you really try to nail a point home. Personally, I dislike two door cars, I think they are incredibly impractical. The Charger to me is what the bigger muscle cars were back in the day compared to pony cars. Cruiser v. Racer All you seem to care about is raw numbers on paper. If I'm driving a car on a track in some kind of race event, I'll take a nimble I4 over a heavy V6/V8 any day. Zeviander

I care about the feel of a car as well as how good it is at doing what it's meant to do. For example, a Miata is a great car for multiple reasons. It feels great. has razor-sharp handling, is very light and responsive, and looks sporty. I've driven them, and I like them. Howver, a heavier mustang GT (current model) gives you most of the benefits of a muscle car and a sports car in a package that also includes a back seat. You get a proper muscle car feel in a car that can also handle well and get acceptable gas mileage. I've had cars with small, high-strung engines, and I've had cars with big, powerful ones. I've had cars with midsized engines too. What's better really depends on the application. For example, I probably wouldn't want to put a 400hp V8 into an S2000. Not only would it throw off the balance of the car, but it wouldn't sound right for the way it looks.

I can understand your perspective on 2-door cars.. but to me that means that you're not really a car person per se. To me, cars are art as much as they are a transportation appliance. I have generally preferred Japanese or German cars as everyday drivers. I'm a big Nissan guy. However, that is changing. Ford and Chevy have stepped up their game.. mainly the former. Their quality has come up, and it seems like Honda, Toyota, and Nissan have been caught almost standing still in recent years. Pony/Muscle cars have become more and more practical, and there really isn't any competition from overseas. I do understand the creation of the new Toyota GT86/FR-S/BR-Z. Great idea... just a few grand too expensive for what you get.

Everybody is going to buy what they like. I'm just sick of the ignorant comments about Pony/Muscle cars being totally impractical, American cars sucking, etc.. There are great cars from almost every automaker right now. The fact is that modern pony cars may be the best compromise of everything that we've ever had on the road. I chose to get a V8 model for obvious reasons, but the current Mustang V6 is a hell of a car. Under 25 grand, over 300 horsepower, 30 mpg on the highway, good handling, great features, good reliability (so far). It's unfortunate that it carries the stigma created by decades of being the "secretary" model, and the one that you bought if you didn't care about performance.

What's your budget, bro? :P

I can understand your perspective on 2-door cars.. but to me that means that you're not really a car person per se.hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]I can understand your perspective on 2-door cars.. but to me that means that you're not really a car person per se.Zeviander

Based on your statements I seriously doubt that are remotely close to as interested in cars as I am, or know nearly as much about them as I do. There may be some people in OT that are bigger car nuts than me, but you're definitely not one of them. Statements like the one I highlighted are proof of that. There have been some really bad 2+2 cars for sure, but without the 2+2 we wouldn't have the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Porsche 911, Infinity G35/37, many Aston Martin models, the list goes on. I've personally owned some great 2 door, 2 seater cars, and some great-performing sedans. The 2+2 allows you to carry 4 people in a pinch while still keeping the coupe looks. If I had kids, I'd have a 4-door car for sure. When I was driving 2-seater Z-cars for several years, there were a few situations where I wished I had a back seat. There were fewer situations where I wanted for back doors.

Based on your statements I seriously doubt that are remotely close to as interested in cars as I am, or know nearly as much about them as I do. There may be some people in OT that are bigger car nuts than me, but you're definitely not one of them. Statements like the one I highlighted are proof of that. There have been some really bad 2+2 cars for sure, but without the 2+2 we wouldn't have the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Porsche 911, Infinity G35/37, many Aston Martin models, the list goes on. I've personally owned some great 2 door, 2 seater cars, and some great-performing sedans. The 2+2 allows you to carry 4 people in a pinch while still keeping the coupe looks. If I had kids, I'd have a 4-door car for sure. When I was driving 2-seater Z-cars for several years, there were a few situations where I wished I had a back seat. There were fewer situations where I wanted for back doors.hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]Based on your statements I seriously doubt that are remotely close to as interested in cars as I am, or know nearly as much about them as I do. There may be some people in OT that are bigger car nuts than me, but you're definitely not one of them. Statements like the one I highlighted are proof of that. There have been some really bad 2+2 cars for sure, but without the 2+2 we wouldn't have the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Porsche 911, Infinity G35/37, many Aston Martin models, the list goes on. I've personally owned some great 2 door, 2 seater cars, and some great-performing sedans. The 2+2 allows you to carry 4 people in a pinch while still keeping the coupe looks. If I had kids, I'd have a 4-door car for sure. When I was driving 2-seater Z-cars for several years, there were a few situations where I wished I had a back seat. There were fewer situations where I wanted for back doors.Zeviander

There was no "strawmanning" here. You stated that 2+2's are the dumbest cars ever. I then listed multiple significant and great 2+2 cars, which manage to be iconic, beautiful, and great cars despite having what you obviously view as a disadvantage. Just give it up man.

I'd say no because I'd be embarrassed knowing a hatch back civic can outrun my pony car.Fightingfan

Do NOT get an 03-04 (or any in that generation) V6 mustang. I had one. They're dog slow and get HORRIBLE mileage. I was lucky to get 12mgp out of my 6.

Pirate700

Get a VW GTI. I get 21 city 30 hwy MPG, and run 13's in the 1/4 mile.! DevilMightCry

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Get a VW GTI. I get 21 city 30 hwy MPG, and run 13's in the 1/4 mile.! V4LENT1NE

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Get a VW GTI. I get 21 city 30 hwy MPG, and run 13's in the 1/4 mile.! Dark__Link

No, V6 mustangs are terrible and never should've been produced for a mustang. Only go V8 when buying a mustang, IMO. Unless its the 3.7 L new v6 mustang, now those haul ass. I would suggest if you want a quick car thats not killer on gas, to get a Cobalt SS super/turbo charged, dodge SRT4, or like said above, a subur WRX ( STI ). Those are quick 4 cylinder cars. They'll be relatively good on gas if you're light on the pedal, and will provide decent punch when you need it.

Nay, don't like Stangs

only ok for a convertible.

There was no "strawmanning" here. You stated that 2+2's are the dumbest cars ever. I then listed multiple significant and great 2+2 cars, which manage to be iconic, beautiful, and great cars despite having what you obviously view as a disadvantage. Just give it up man. hartsickdiscipl

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Nay unless your penis is an innie and you want to be like everybody else out there. I see between 5 and 10 every single day just driving the 15 minutes to and from work. My boyfriend bought an 04 and I am not a fan(It wasn't very good on gas, even as a manual), nor am I of his parents' 09 or 10, I can't remember which. All flash, no real substance. As far as I'm aware, there are new Hondas and stuff that are just as 'fast' as muscle cars but are WAY better on gas. I'm not a big car buff, but I am not a fan of people buying these ridiculous vehicles for so much more than they're worth just because they're vehicle viagra and people see them as a status symbol. They're not, anymore. Every other person has one.Fightingfan

There aren't any new Hondas that I'm aware of that can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, a 1/4 mile in 13.9, and get 30mpg on the highway as well. That's what a new V6 Mustang can do. If you get the GT, Boss 302, or GT500, there is no stock Honda that's even close in acceleration. Plus those cars all get 24-27 mpg on the highway. Modern muscle cars aren't as impractical as a lot of people seem to think.

There is also a factor that any real driving enthusiast will appreciate- Driving dynamics. Go drive a V6 Accord and then drive a 2011+ Mustang or 2009+ Camaro. Rear wheel drive makes a car feel right. I've had fast front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars. There is no comparison.

Haha, my first thought was the NSX too. Damn those are sexy cars.

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There aren't any new Hondas that I'm aware of that can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, a 1/4 mile in 13.9, and get 30mpg on the highway as well. That's what a new V6 Mustang can do. If you get the GT, Boss 302, or GT500, there is no stock Honda that's even close in acceleration. Plus those cars all get 24-27 mpg on the highway. Modern muscle cars aren't as impractical as a lot of people seem to think.

There is also a factor that any real driving enthusiast will appreciate- Driving dynamics. Go drive a V6 Accord and then drive a 2011+ Mustang or 2009+ Camaro. Rear wheel drive makes a car feel right. I've had fast front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars. There is no comparison.

TacticalDesire

Haha, my first thought was the NSX too. Damn those are sexy cars.

Not to hijack the thread, but I almost bought this car a few years back. This is my type of sexy...

Get a VW GTI. I get 21 city 30 hwy MPG, and run 13's in the 1/4 mile.! DevilMightCry

There's no stock GTI sold in the US that runs even close to 13's. High 14's/low 15's is what we get.