Vice Media - Society should be more empathetic to Pedophiles

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Is this what the far left have become? To normalize the sexuality towards children? Especially to child predators?

Here is partially the article

On Facebook, many of the thousands of commenters suggested that Nickerson and anyone like him be killed or locked up for life, regardless of whether or not they had actually committed a crime.

But Rhea Martinez, who was raped and repeatedly molested by a male family friend as a child, feels differently. Martinez, 28, told VICE she believes society should be more empathetic towards pedophiles before they offend—and that they should have more options for getting help.

"I feel like if he would have had a place to go, maybe it would have never happened to me," Martinez said.

Martinez grew up in Niles, Michigan, a child of divorce. When she was around eight years old, her dad remarried and was granted full custody of her and her brother. Martinez said her stepmother owned a creditor's business with her ex-husband—they were still friends. Her stepmom's ex had a daughter, whom Martinez befriended.

Says the person bragging how Trump had no chance winning the election

Let them get the help they need. That way they wont be ticking time-bombs. Lets, as a society prioritize on preventing crimes rather than retributive measurements.

Besides Pedophile does not necessarily mean child abuser.

I say this as a victim of what Richard Dawkins would consider mild pedophilia.

"On Facebook, many of the thousands of commenters suggested that Nickerson and anyone like him be killed or locked up for life, regardless of whether or not they had actually committed a crime."

Huh, what? Of course you shouldn't be locked up or executed if you haven't committed a crime.

And of course should we do more for people with this sexual orientation when it's very existence is tied to crime. It's called crime prevention, same thing that we should do more for people with mental illness that makes them more likely to end up as violent criminals.

Martinez herself doesn't speak of more lenient punishment for the offenders. What is your point here?

The left is trying to normalize pedophilia to soften the blow when Podesta's consistently long-time rumored child sex rings come to light. It's not just Vice, it's Salon, Huffington, etc.

@kaealy: Point is, if you have a fetish for children, then stay way from my children.

The day exploiting children becomes normalized is the day we go morally bankrupt.

So, you are for helping them before they do anything? Great, what are you arguing here then?

I have to agree. I'm not arguing that we should be understanding of pedophiles who abuse children. I'm simply saying that we should try to help non-offending pedophiles remain non-offending, because children deserve our protection rather than years of therapy.

Good luck finding out who has. When they are treated as criminal suspects for merely having their fetish exposed.

This is why the presumption of innocence is needed for even pedophiles. Provide them an environment where they can seek out help, without possibly ruining their own lives. And they can get the therapy they need, before it is too late.

Here's the problem, my cousins were molested by their babysitter and he was a family friend that did admit to his fetish, but still had the urges! I don't trust them, even if you try to help them.

Only 1 solution: The Oven.

Therapy on pedophiles is proven to be ineffective.

They have facilities, they are expensive and almost none of them get released. Many are assholes who don't want helped.

Most detainees at Coalinga have little hope that they will ever be released.^[10] Critics say California's sexually violent predator program looks more like upscale incarceration.^[11] There's a growing sense among detainees that they have been effectively railroaded into a life prison term.^[12]

"It's hopeless," said one detainee, who was sent to Coalinga after serving a prison term for committing a lewd and lascivious act. "This is a therapeutic setting, supposedly. But it's nothing more than a mock-up prison. They can call it what they want. But it's prison."^[7] Civil commitment for sexual predatory acts is, as a practical matter, a life sentence.^[13]

A federal judge ruled a similar program in Minnesota to be unconstitutional.^[14] A British High Court ruled that California's involuntary commitment law violated human rights, that the punishments violated the European Convention on Human Rights, and refused to extradite a man based on the risk that he might be committed to Coalinga

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalinga_State_Hospital

@uninspiredcup: I still don't trust them, had a familty friend that went with the treatment since he admitted to loving children in sexual ways. Had him babysat a cousin of mine when she was 7 years old. Then when her parents came home, he was caught molesting my cousin.

I'm afraid I agree with the oven perspective, there's no delusions of altruism.

@Serraph105: sounds about right.

Fine then make them fry for it, and send the non-offenders into a state where they are not allowed to admit their problem without persecution. All you have to do from there is to wait until they crack and sexually abuse a child or children.

All you have to do is ask how that approach benefits society.

You think Non-offenders will not do the crime but help will cure them? Ask my cousin!

Um, that's a facility for sexually violent predators, or in other words people who have committed crimes. I fail to see how that has anything to do with the idea that people who HAVEN'T committed a crime shouldn't be locked up or killed.

Again, is the idea that non-killers shouldn't be killed or locked up for life a "far left" idea? If "don't kill or imprison people who haven't committed a crime" is unreasonable, then exactly what kind of legal justification would there be for killing them or locking them up? I mean, you can't just kill or imprison a law-abiding person because he's "creepy" or because "I just don't like him."

I'm going to have to lock this one. The CoC doesn't allow these topics.