Violence against men

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

Yes, males have rights also, but to deny that women get treated better in the courts and etc. is just a blatant lie. Those women that I mentioned in my first comment, the ones that tried to kill their husbands (one did actually), they walk free. How do you justify that? What about the woman who drowned her four kids and ended up killing them? What happened to her? She was deemed "ill in the head" so her punishement is that she now resides in a psych ward or something like that. Now, if the situation were reversed and it was a man who murdered his children, we all know that he would be in prison for life and without parole.

Jynx_1991

not true, myth. Kind of like how you think there is a bunch of women out there planning to beat up on you.

get out more! stop listening to AM radio

...What???

Am radio has nothing to do with the facts. Police come out on a domestic disturbence call with a man and woman the man unless the woman is showing out it is mostly the man that goes to jail. A woman hts you and you hit her back then the man is the bad guy in most peoples eyes.

blah blah blahnoscope-ak47

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

Heres a video I just watched and I reccomend you all watch it too (it's not too long I promise) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks

It's just sad how in the experiment, the man is being kicked, scratched, punched, poked, having objects thrown at him, being pulled, being verbally abused, etc. no one intervenes. It's made even worse when the cop, who you think would represent both sides equally, even goes so far to condone violence against men. The whole sitiuation reminded me of what I witnessed at college.

When the situation was reversed and a guy was only holding and shaking the girl, everyone pretty much pulled the guy aside and gave him a few words.

And then theres a woman in a pink shirt who actually says she sees the woman hitting the man as a "role model" and that she should hit men more often. what???

How is this acceptable?

SEANMCAD

Unfortunately, in our society, men are guilty by default.

If we are at the end of abuse, well, we probably had it coming.

pop culture has programme dus to think like this, men and women alike

to be frank anyone who says 'a woman hitting a man is wrong' or 'a man hitting a man is wrong' or 'a man hitting a woman is wrong' the implication is that a different combination is ok. If there isnt an inverse then its dosent make sense to state it. Think about it.

the gender doesnt matter.

Be 'frank' all you want, just dont put words in my mouth. Violence against either gender is wrong, I dont think anyone has any illusions to that regard. However we react differently to it when the genders are switched.

Imperical proof is in the video posted by Jynx.

Am radio has nothing to do with the facts. Police come out on a domestic disturbence call with a man and woman the man unless the woman is showing out it is mostly the man that goes to jail. A woman hts you and you hit her back then the man is the bad guy in most peoples eyes.

noscope-ak47

You gotta keep your pimphand strong, bro.

@FrknPuertoRican That's not funny, just saying...

Well, there is compelling argument that the playing is not equal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_JlA84Xc8

just one of numerous examples,

this is not equality

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

stfu trash.

gamerguru100

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]blah blah blahOmni-Slash

So now anything that you don't agree with is blah blah blah yeah that is clear and consise and I am still waiting for these racist comments you claim I made. As for you thinking I am a tough guy thanks family guy which one are you peter griffin:D

As for you having a job wife and kids wow is that rare :roll:

Now the intelligence and personality thing I guess I will have to call bs on that. I doubt you could lead men into combat and have them follow your orders without question. I get more a limp wristed liberal feel from your post but you could prove me wrong and post some pics if you have the stones. Unlike you I am proud of myself and my family and my life. I don't need to sit on GS trolling complete strangers to make my life complete. You should spend more time with your wife and kids and less time on the net that is if you really have a wife and kids.

Well, there is compelling argument that the playing is not equal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_JlA84Xc8

just one of numerous examples,

this is not equality

Zaibach

blah blah blah..noscope-ak47

..but anyway..you don't think the Slap a Hoe Tribe comment isn't bordering on racist?.

..I didn't say you were a tough guy..I sad you were acting the part.....there is a difference...never said that having a wife and child was rare...you asked what about me...and I told you....

..Leading men into combat is an admirable quality..and if you have done that it is to be commended....but I'm not going to lie...so far your posting history seriously makes me doubt such claims...

. do you know what trolling is btw?...I'm arguing your points and calling out ridiculous comments...if you feel the need to defend yourself that's on you..and as for posting pics of myself...I have.....I can...and I might..but it has nothing to do about having the "stones" to do it..as I don't need your approval in any sense of the word.

.and as for my political theology....I'm a libertarian bordering on conservative in regards to economic and foreign policy....in regard to Social issues I tend to be more on the Liberal side as I don;t think govt should have any say in the matter of what people do as long as they are not hurting anyone....in regards to time spent with my family....by children are in school right now..and my wife and I are at work....thanks for your concern....

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

to be frank anyone who says 'a woman hitting a man is wrong' or 'a man hitting a man is wrong' or 'a man hitting a woman is wrong' the implication is that a different combination is ok. If there isnt an inverse then its dosent make sense to state it. Think about it.

the gender doesnt matter.

SEANMCAD

Be 'frank' all you want, just dont put words in my mouth. Violence against either gender is wrong, I dont think anyone has any illusions to that regard. However we react differently to it when the genders are switched.

Imperical proof is in the video posted by Jynx.

In the main women running around beating up on men and getting away with it is simply a f*cking fantasy world. its not happening, peroid. in the main.

a few videos which likely were staged and/or the full context is not known dosent qualify as evidence.

No one is claiming that there is wave of female violence sweeping the nation, thats not what the TC was claiming at all....

You should have stood up to the crowd then, TC.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Well, there is compelling argument that the playing is not equal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_JlA84Xc8

just one of numerous examples,

this is not equality

sSubZerOo

Lol funny you should bring that up in defence, yet the lady in the video attributes the sttlement to what she is owed.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Well, there is compelling argument that the playing is not equal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_JlA84Xc8

just one of numerous examples,

this is not equality

sSubZerOo

I never said that. What I did say is that the justice system is more linient towards women.

You should have stood up to the crowd then, TC.

airshocker

Kind of hard to when the crowd was full of people screaming and crowding each other to see the fight.

I agree completely, though it's impossible to say that females have had the best role throughout history without hesitating.

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]blah blah blah..Omni-Slash

..but anyway..you don't think the Slap a Hoe Tribe comment isn't bordering on racist?.

..I didn't say you were a tough guy..I sad you were acting the part.....there is a difference...never said that having a wife and child was rare...you asked what about me...and I told you....

..Leading men into combat is an admirable quality..and if you have done that it is to be commended....but I'm not going to lie...so far your posting history seriously makes me doubt such claims...

. do you know what trolling is btw?...I'm arguing your points and calling out ridiculous comments...if you feel the need to defend yourself that's on you..and as for posting pics of myself...I have.....I can...and I might..but it has nothing to do about having the "stones" to do it..as I don't need your approval in any sense of the word.

.and as for my political theology....I'm a libertarian bordering on conservative in regards to economic and foreign policy....in regard to Social issues I tend to be more on the Liberal side as I don;t think govt should have any say in the matter of what people do as long as they are not hurting anyone....in regards to time spent with my family....by children are in school right now..and my wife and I are at work....thanks for your concern....

Talking to you it seems is a waste of time it seems you think your a internet psychic and are full of excuses and doubts. It also seems you have no sense of humor. If your a american indian and your offended that was not my intent if your not a american indian then gtfoh. That is why I said post a pick I doubt your a american indian cause your comments on politics would make you the back sheep of the tribe. All I have learned is while your wife is out working and your kids are at school daddy spends his free time making fun of complete strangers on the net. That is a great life you got there just my 2 cents but maybe you should get off your butt and get to the gym.

As for me being a tough guy on the internet that is what you claim not me. You can have a good day on GS making fun of people if that is what turns you on but I am done unlike your self I got work to do.

blah blah blah...noscope-ak47

"Even if the guy did cheat on the girl, violence is NEVER ok"

Why isn't violence ok?

"Even if the guy did cheat on the girl, violence is NEVER ok"

Why isn't violence ok?

FrKnPuertoRican

My ex boyfriend cheated on me last year. Did I beat him? Of course not. Instead I gave him a few words (ok more like very harsh words) and walked aways like the bigger person that I am. I'm not going to degrade myself by hitting someone like a child would because that is not me, not to mention it's wrong. Do I really need to elaborate on this?

[QUOTE="FrKnPuertoRican"]

"Even if the guy did cheat on the girl, violence is NEVER ok"

Why isn't violence ok?

Jynx_1991

My ex boyfriend cheated on me last year. Did I beat him? Of course not. Instead I gave him a few words (ok more like very harsh words) and walked aways like the bigger person that I am. I'm not going to degrade myself by hitting someone like a child would because that is not me, not to mention it's wrong. Do I really need to elaborate on this?

Well if you had hit him, you would have been in the right and a hero to women everywhere. I think that is the real problem no the fact that you can hit a man and walk away.

My ex boyfriend cheated on me last year. Did I beat him? Of course not. Instead I gave him a few words (ok more like very harsh words) and walked aways like the bigger person that I am. I'm not going to degrade myself by hitting someone like a child would because that is not me, not to mention it's wrong. Do I really need to elaborate on this?

Jynx_1991

i completely agree, double standards suck

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

My ex boyfriend cheated on me last year. Did I beat him? Of course not. Instead I gave him a few words (ok more like very harsh words) and walked aways like the bigger person that I am. I'm not going to degrade myself by hitting someone like a child would because that is not me, not to mention it's wrong. Do I really need to elaborate on this?

Omni-Slash

Both acts are against the law and you can have assault charges filed for attacking the person regardless of what sex you or the victim are.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

My ex boyfriend cheated on me last year. Did I beat him? Of course not. Instead I gave him a few words (ok more like very harsh words) and walked aways like the bigger person that I am. I'm not going to degrade myself by hitting someone like a child would because that is not me, not to mention it's wrong. Do I really need to elaborate on this?

sSubZerOo

Yes, but the difference being that if a man calls the cops, most likely his case won't be taken as seriously. Whereas if a woman called the cops most likely the man would be arrested for assaulting the woman.

^ Obviously I realize that not every cop is like the above, but If you watched the video I posted in which the girl was beating her boyfriend, the cop actually condoned that sort of violence. Like I said not every cop is going to have that mindset but it really does seem like people are really more linient when women commit violence. Remember when I said I witnessed that incident at college? Campus security did absolutely nothing, instead he stood there laughing.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I don;t know if it's wrong or not..but certain people vent in different ways...sometimes a guy deserves a slap in the face if he's acting like a complete scumbag (the humiliation and a little stinging goes a long way)...going any further than that is too much...and the reason why it's not okay in return is that guys (and this is a generalization) are stronger then women)..for a guy to do the same can seriously hurt a woman......is it right?..probably not..but sometimes the best lessons are learned in such a way....Jynx_1991

Yes, but the difference being that if a man calls the cops, most likely his case won't be taken as seriously. Whereas if a woman called the cops most likely the man would be arrested for assaulting the woman.

^ Obviously I realize that not every cop is like the above, but If you watched the video I posted in which the girl was beating her boyfriend, the cop actually condoned that sort of violence. Like I said not every cop is going to have that mindset but it really does seem like people are really more linient when women commit violence. Remember when I said I witnessed that incident at college? Campus security did absolutely nothing, instead he stood there laughing.

Jynx_1991

[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

^ Obviously I realize that not every cop is like the above, but If you watched the video I posted in which the girl was beating her boyfriend, the cop actually condoned that sort of violence. Like I said not every cop is going to have that mindset but it really does seem like people are really more linient when women commit violence. Remember when I said I witnessed that incident at college? Campus security did absolutely nothing, instead he stood there laughing.

sSubZerOo

If some guy/girl did that to to me I would probably sue. But seeing as though I'm not the one that was assaulted, I can't do anything about it. I really don't know if the guy is going to do anything about it.

[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Pretty simple really, you sue the department causing a multi million dollar scandal... Than they HAVE to listen to you then.. SEANMCAD

If some guy/girl did that to to me I would probably sue. But seeing as though I'm not the one that was assaulted, I can't do anything about it. I really don't know if the guy is going to do anything about it.

It is extreemly likely any video of a cop codoning violence is either about to get fired, video was staged, or the full context of the events is missing in the video.

I would hope so because condoning any act of violence, especially if the person is an authority figure, is just wrong.

[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Pretty simple really, you sue the department causing a multi million dollar scandal... Than they HAVE to listen to you then.. SEANMCAD

If some guy/girl did that to to me I would probably sue. But seeing as though I'm not the one that was assaulted, I can't do anything about it. I really don't know if the guy is going to do anything about it.

It is extreemly likely any video of a cop codoning violence is either about to get fired, video was staged, or the full context of the events is missing in the video.

it was a social experiment and he was off duty. If anything he was being believably honest. he even said, he's old fashioned in that regard, but you keep your fingers in your ears and scream 'lalalalala'

Snap her in two

Bear in mind that the gender roles and social expectations towards males are that males are supposed to be able to weather physical pain and be strong, to never express and show their feelings because it's 'weak' and not 'manly' to express pain and feelings. Males are generally expected to bottle up their emotions and their feelings, which leads to a poor control over their temper because of all of the pent up pain and misery, and end up being seen as in the wrong if they show that they are in pain. It's disgusting double standards, males feel pain - physical, emotional and mental - just as sharply as a female can. A Japanese Transformers cartoon I'm watching just now showed that double standard when the Japanese take on the character of Daniel cries for her dad's near death, he survives in the end, and one of the Autobots, the Japanese take of Chromedome, commented that men don't cry because it makes them weak. A disgusting social expectation of males. Domestic abuse towards males is rarely ever reported because males find it embarrassing to talk about because they're worried that they'll be seen as weak, so they bottle up the pain and that only makes things worse for them. It doesn't matter the gender, and sex, of the person who has suffered from physical abuse, as well as mental abuse, they are still in a lot of pain from it and it is never something that should be dismissed. Smokescreened84

Well said.

I don't know I guess I'm still so shocked to of witnessed what I did at school. It just shocking how people just sided with the girl as if she was the "good guy" when clearly those people probably don't even know the history between the two. He could of cheated, maybe not, but that doesn't justify the abuse he recieved. He was telling her to stop and she just kicked him... Like how do you do that to another human being and go to sleep soundly at night?

Anyways, I probably wont be back for a while do to being busy with so much things right now. To all of that responded thank you, It was interesting to read what all of you had to say regarding violence and I even ended up learing a thing or two. Bye.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

It is extreemly likely any video of a cop codoning violence is either about to get fired, video was staged, or the full context of the events is missing in the video.

SEANMCAD

it was a social experiment and he was off duty. If anything he was being believably honest. he even said, he's old fashioned in that regard, but you keep your fingers in your ears and scream 'lalalalala'

let me make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that evidence is coming in that violence against men by women is becoming a social epidemic?

really?

and I thought I was a hermit!

One day you will open your eyes and ears.

you have been well trained though :P

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

let me make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that evidence is coming in that violence against men by women is becoming a social epidemic?

really?

and I thought I was a hermit!

SEANMCAD

One day you will open your eyes and ears.

you have been well trained though :P

how about your very first post? I quote:

As a woman, I find it insulting how some girls can do inflict harm on someone and it's considered as the "norm," when it should be regarded as violence

in order for something to be considered the 'norm' it has to be pervasive which is one of the requirements for using the word 'epidemic' the other requirement is that it would be considered bad. So,'norm' means it happens a lot and its bad..hench 'epidemic'

yeah.......

I think you have me confused with someone else

I'm all about gender equality. So if a woman hits me she's gonna get hit back, same as a man would.

Well he can still charge her with assault, the justice system will still see it as assault if he was actually kicked in the groni and injured to the point that he was on the ground, not to mention the witnesses.

Plus while I think hitting anyone back should be avoided, again, he is within his right to defend himself if she is actually going to do real harm to him.

I think some of you guys are overstating it a bit (no, women are not TOTALLy allowed to do whatever they want to you), and this isn't something that necessarily happens everywhere. There might be unfortunate double standards for guys, but remember, there are other double standards a lot of women have to deal with too.

I certainly agree with you.

I agree. Gender violence shouldn't be one-sided.