War on drugs a failure, suggestion of legalising cannabis and other drugs.

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So what do you guys think? If we look at the Netherlands for example, it appears to have helped a lot against crime. Crime is actually so low that jobs have been cut and prisons closed down. Legalising it can also boost any countrys economy through taxation and new jobs. Though since you can grow your own pot at your own place, I imagine it can be hard to regulate it.

I don't smoke cannibis (used to) but I know a lot of people that smoke. Some have good jobs and are married. Others not, but they also smoke a lot and take other and harder drugs too. I'm too torn on this one. On paper it sounds like a good idea, but seeing young potheads waste their oppertunity away, smoking and getting high instead of studying hard. I guess it's all about personal responsibility.

Honestly, the war on drugs is just there to help big pharmaceutical corporations. DroidPhysX

what???

yeah I never really understood the "War on Drugs". It is a complete failure.

As far as legalizing stuff, I dont want to see it in stores, but if someone wants to grow pot or shrooms or coca plants then let them. Dispensaries would be ok too I guess.

Legalize and tax it.

protectionist law that hurts society...... yea i am against the war on forcing people to imbued only what political interest group A or political figure head B deems acceptable.

I hate it when governments declare war on "things." War on Drugs..... it's not like the drugs will surrender. War on Terror......terrorism is a tactic.

I hate it when governments declare war on "things." War on Drugs..... it's not like the drugs will surrender. War on Terror......terrorism is a tactic.

YellowOneKinobi

In my opinion, the War on Drugs benefits big pharmaceutical corporations (as mentioned above) and the Mafia more than it benefits the common people. Just imagine how much time and money would be saved if the prohibition on marijuana was ended. Such a huge amount of law enforcement time and resources could be redirected toward real criminals.

Note: I'm not a pot smoker and never have been. I actually dislike mind altering substances of all kinds.

I think we should legalize all drugs except for meth (because that one actually does pose a direct thread to people around you).

more easily accessible drugs of everykind makes everything better....Omni-Slash

I think we should legalize all drugs except for meth (because that one actually does pose a direct thread to people around you).

arbitor365

Yeah, I know, there are very poinsous plants out there and stuff.

It's a little over board to call the war on drugs a "failure". Of course we cannot totally eliminate drugs, but we can reduce them.

I would say that the war on drugs is a defensive war: we are defending our citizens against drugs and reducing the number of people exposed to them.

In a defensive war, we don't take enemy territory, but that doesn't mean we are losing.

There's an enormous difference between marijuana and other drugs. Cannabis is relatively harmless and one can certainly make an argument for its legalization. Drugs like heroin, however, are very dangerous to people. Opium nearly destroyed China. I'd rather it not be readily available.

It's a little over board to call the war on drugs a "failure". Of course we cannot totally eliminate drugs, but we can reduce them.

I would say that the war on drugs is a defensive war: we are defending our citizens against drugs and reducing the number of people exposed to them.

In a defensive war, we don't take enemy territory, but that doesn't mean we are losing.

whipassmt

But when you start getting into coke and the like, it's getting manufactured and for whatever reason I feel like there is a difference there.YellowOneKinobi

You could have said the same thing 10 years ago, 20 years ago etc. The 18th Amendment showed prohibition is a disaster.

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It's a little over board to call the war on drugs a "failure". Of course we cannot totally eliminate drugs, but we can reduce them.

I would say that the war on drugs is a defensive war: we are defending our citizens against drugs and reducing the number of people exposed to them.

In a defensive war, we don't take enemy territory, but that doesn't mean we are losing.

needled24-7

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] foxhound_fox

I don't see a problem with decriminalizing marijuana nationwide. People can choose for themselves what they want to put into their bodies.

If only the goverment would have a War on Nudity.....Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]If only the goverment would have a War on Nudity.....EasyStreet

[QUOTE="EasyStreet"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]If only the goverment would have a War on Nudity.....Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="EasyStreet"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]If only the goverment would have a War on Nudity.....Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="EasyStreet"]We have religious fundamentalist already taking care of this:). EasyStreet

Just like religious fundamentalist have failed, it is best to let individuals decide. EasyStreet

I say legalize all drugs. Let people finally account for themselves, and allow their communities to help recoup them if they become addicts. Think of all the wonders this would do for Mexico if all drugs were legalized..

[QUOTE="EasyStreet"]Just like religious fundamentalist have failed, it is best to let individuals decide. Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="EasyStreet"]Just like religious fundamentalist have failed, it is best to let individuals decide. EasyStreet

And who knows... one day there might be something in low doses of meth that actually has medicinal benefits when administered in a controlled fashion (which is no the case for street drugs).foxhound_fox

There are already "blessed" medical purposes for it. Desoxyn is the name under which it is prescribed. It is used to treat obesity, severe ADD, and sleep disorders such as narcolepsy.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And who knows... one day there might be something in low doses of meth that actually has medicinal benefits when administered in a controlled fashion (which is no the case for street drugs).m0zart

There are already "blessed" medical purposes for it. Desoxyn is the name under which it is prescribed. It is used to treat obesity, severe ADD, and sleep disorders such as narcolepsy.

You are completly right, the vast majority of drugs originated from the medical world.

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So what do you guys think? If we look at the Netherlands for example, it appears to have helped a lot against crime. Crime is actually so low that jobs have been cut and prisons closed down. Legalising it can also boost any countrys economy through taxation and new jobs. Though since you can grow your own pot at your own place, I imagine it can be hard to regulate it.

I don't smoke cannibis (used to) but I know a lot of people that smoke. Some have good jobs and are married. Others not, but they also smoke a lot and take other and harder drugs too. I'm too torn on this one. On paper it sounds like a good idea, but seeing young potheads waste their oppertunity away, smoking and getting high instead of studying hard. I guess it's all about personal responsibility.

m25105

basically, a legal store might not card you. A drug dealer will NEVER card you.

all i can say to add to this is that the entire time i was young the only difficult drugs to get were alcohol and tobacco.

everything else was readily available to kids because the source was controlled by criminals.

war on drugs = fail.

they can have as many laws and wars as they want. if i wanted to smoke weed or snort cocaine i would. but i dont want to.lloveLamp

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]they can have as many laws and wars as they want. if i wanted to smoke weed or snort cocaine i would. but i dont want to.YellowOneKinobi

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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]they can have as many laws and wars as they want. if i wanted to smoke weed or snort cocaine i would. but i dont want to.surrealnumber5

It's been brought up on ballots in California, but the majority of people in that state are still voting against legalization. And if California can't get it passed, it certainly won't pass anywhere else.

God it took them how long to figure this out? I'm not saying treat all drugs the same, but keeping them all illegal and locking people up for something such as drug use is sooooo moronic I don't even know where to start. We need to rethink and rewrite the vast majority of our drug laws ASAP. HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]God it took them how long to figure this out? I'm not saying treat all drugs the same, but keeping them all illegal and locking people up for something such as drug use is sooooo moronic I don't even know where to start. We need to rethink and rewrite the vast majority of our drug laws ASAP. surrealnumber5

It's been brought up on ballots in California, but the majority of people in that state are still voting against legalization. And if California can't get it passed, it certainly won't pass anywhere else.Netherscourge

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]God it took them how long to figure this out? I'm not saying treat all drugs the same, but keeping them all illegal and locking people up for something such as drug use is sooooo moronic I don't even know where to start. We need to rethink and rewrite the vast majority of our drug laws ASAP. HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] laws in general IMO, but drug laws would be a good start. i dont like protectionist laws at all, i dont see how people can justify, with few exceptions, punishing someone who has yet to cause any damage. the primary exception is attempted murder.

surrealnumber5

Ah regulations then ;)

I know where you're coming from. I think we can agree on most things pertaining to drug laws here.