War on drugs a failure, suggestion of legalising cannabis and other drugs.

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#51 TINYOWNSYOU
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I don't think it should be legalized. It just seems like a bad idea to me.

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#53 SpartanMSU
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I don't see how weed is any more dangerous than alcohol or tobacco for that matter. It's my body, not yours.

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#54 DivergeUnify
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Most drugs should be legal- if they were the government( if they really wanted) could make certain purities illegal, or have to pay even more for those purities.

Things like meth which have a high chance to cause some state of psychosis are dangerous to others, as well as the individual who smoked it. Heroin should be illegal( or at least certain potencies). After reading a lot on heroin forums, it is one drug that, if was available recreationally, would do a lot of damage to people with little or no gain

I'm all for legalizing LSD, DMT, weed, psilocybin mushrooms, MDMA I do think these drugs need more knowledge to be spread about them though. Alcohol is a shallow drug, it impairs you but doesn't truly affect your perception of reality that much compared to those drugs

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#55 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Yes, marijuana should be legalized, along with prostitution (two things that take up way too many resources for their intended societal 'benefit' of keeping them illegal). Not that I'd partake in either though.Engrish_Major
However, I have this "friend" who may. . . . . :P
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#56 bbkkristian
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Sorry, but I want productive citizens in our future so lets keep it illegal and just because the war is a failure doesn't justify that its okay for society. Maybe we should elect better representatives that will actually tackle this issue instead of putting a "blind eye" on it. :x
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#57 rastotm
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I don't see how weed is any more dangerous than alcohol or tobacco for that matter. It's my body, not yours.

SpartanMSU

You are completely right, i've read quite a bit about the effects of weed short and long term.

These days science has pretty much proven that weed is less damaging and addictve then tobacco and alcohol, lots of older studies were compromised.
A example would be the brain damage study where monkey's smoked pot and had damaged brain afterwards, a revision of that experiment shows that the monkeys suffered CO posioning which caused the brain damage

Furtheremore the history of weed is a joke, valid reasons to make it illigal were never presented

IMO

As long as a drug isn't highly addictive and doesn't cause short term damage them they should be legalized, under very restricted laws ofcourse.

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#58 deactivated-59d151f079814
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There is entirely too much money behind for Cannabis to ever be legalized.. its a effective painkiller and far cheaper than the drugs pharmcies push out..
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#59 DivergeUnify
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There is entirely too much money behind for Cannabis to ever be legalized.. its a effective painkiller and far cheaper than the drugs pharmcies push out.. sSubZerOo
As far as painkiller status, is it mostly effective against cancer? As far as I can tell it definitely does not compare to prescription painkillers like Oxycotin or Hydrocodone
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#60 Treflis
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I've already mistaken salt for sugar plenty of times, I'd rather not mistake cocain for flour.
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#61 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]There is entirely too much money behind for Cannabis to ever be legalized.. its a effective painkiller and far cheaper than the drugs pharmcies push out.. DivergeUnify
As far as painkiller status, is it mostly effective against cancer? As far as I can tell it definitely does not compare to prescription painkillers like Oxycotin or Hydrocodone

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

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#62 CaveJohnson1
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I'd support legalizing and or regulating other soft drugs, but hard drugs like heroin, absolutely not, they are way to harmful to socioty.

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]There is entirely too much money behind for Cannabis to ever be legalized.. its a effective painkiller and far cheaper than the drugs pharmcies push out.. sSubZerOo

As far as painkiller status, is it mostly effective against cancer? As far as I can tell it definitely does not compare to prescription painkillers like Oxycotin or Hydrocodone

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive.
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#64 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] As far as painkiller status, is it mostly effective against cancer? As far as I can tell it definitely does not compare to prescription painkillers like Oxycotin or Hydrocodone pis3rch

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive.

I know I am just pointing out that if cannabis was legal.. It would knock off over the counter drugs and other such things.. The fact of teh matter is many of the perscription and over the counter drugs are far more dangerous and addictive than the illegal drug... that is why it will always stay illegal, because it could single handedly bankrupt quite a bit of the sector.

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#65 rastotm
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[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

sSubZerOo

I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive.

I know I am just pointing out that if cannabis was legal.. It would knock off over the counter drugs and other such things.. The fact of teh matter is many of the perscription and over the counter drugs are far more dangerous and addictive than the illegal drug... that is why it will always stay illegal, because it could single handedly bankrupt quite a bit of the sector.

Don't forget the jails and clinics as sectors that will be damaged due to the legislation of weed.

(not that weed 'addicts' actually need a clinic to get rid of their 'addiction', it's just that they are sent there by court)

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#66 Communist_Soul
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Though I absolutely despise those type drugs and people who use them (unless it's for medical purposes); I would want it legalized so people can OD and kill themselves off. Hey everyone is happy.

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#67 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] As far as painkiller status, is it mostly effective against cancer? As far as I can tell it definitely does not compare to prescription painkillers like Oxycotin or Hydrocodone pis3rch

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive.

Wait...does it really help Crohn's? I've been told smoking cigarettes is one of the worst things for Crohn's (but good for ulcerative colitis), so I assumed smoking weed would be bad too due to the smoke. But if the cigarettes thing is based off tobacco then...hell yes.

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#68 xionvalkyrie
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If we legalize and regulate all drugs, we'll:

-Have extra money from taxes to help pay off the deficit

-Reduce drug related crimes

-Destroy a large source of income for many criminal organizations

-Possibly help curb the power of drug lords in Mexico

-New jobs created to handle the manufacturing, transporation, control of the new legal drugs, as well as creating safe places for users to use more dangerous drugs

-Help solve the overcrowing of our jails. There'll actually be room so that dangerous criminals aren't let out early.

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#69 lightleggy
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I think its sad...but is the war on drugs really doing anything? I mean, they say "a shipment of marijuana has been intercepted by war on drugs operatives, 2 tons found" but isnt there like....1000000 tons flowing in the street as they say that? and even if they kill the leader of a cartel, they just find someone else, its a snake without a head
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[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

SpartanMSU

I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive.

Wait...does it really help Crohn's? I've been told smoking cigarettes is one of the worst things for Crohn's (but good for ulcerative colitis), so I assumed smoking weed would be bad too due to the smoke. But if the cigarettes thing is based off tobacco then...hell yes.



Smoking on itself is always bad, people who use marijuana for medical purposes tend to use a vaporizer to inhale it.

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#71 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive. rastotm

Wait...does it really help Crohn's? I've been told smoking cigarettes is one of the worst things for Crohn's (but good for ulcerative colitis), so I assumed smoking weed would be bad too due to the smoke. But if the cigarettes thing is based off tobacco then...hell yes.



Smoking on itself is always bad, people who use marijuana for medical purposes tend to use a vaporizer to inhale it.

Well yeah, I know. I was talking in terms of being bad for Crohn's Disease.

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#72 poptart
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Well it's good they've finally acknowledged that large elephant in the room. Now it'll take another 20 years of pondering about what to do I imagine.

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#73 pis3rch
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[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yes both much more expensive, not to mention dangerous and addictive.

SpartanMSU

I think its more effective in treating specific types of pain, like those of all bowel-related conditions like crohns and other general pain like fibromyalgia. For other things like trauma i think opiates are much better, even if they are dangerous and addictive.

Wait...does it really help Crohn's? I've been told smoking cigarettes is one of the worst things for Crohn's (but good for ulcerative colitis), so I assumed smoking weed would be bad too due to the smoke. But if the cigarettes thing is based off tobacco then...hell yes.

Yeah apparently it works wonders, there are threads with dozens of pages on the cannabis forum i frequent with patients swearing by mmj for crohns. Apparently one of the properties of thc is a soothing relief of all sorts of different bowel pains. Smoke is obviously in and of itself harmful to your health, but the wide variety of cannabinoids in marijuana smoke can help reduce or possibly eliminate the discomfort of crohns flare ups. Smoking weed is really nothing like smoking a cigarette.
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#74 Gibsonsg527
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All drugs should be decriminalized. If a person gets caught with X drug then they should be sent to treatment not jail.

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#75 gamertylers
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Though I absolutely despise those type drugs and people who use them (unless it's for medical purposes); I would want it legalized so people can OD and kill themselves off. Hey everyone is happy.

Communist_Soul
Why all the hate on marijuana and it's users? I hope you do vote for legalization of marijuana only to realize that it's almost impossible to OD from it...
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#76 X360PS3AMD05
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They should at least try it for like a few decades and see what happens, if it isn't good then we can go back to prohibition of drugs. Also i would like to finally try some marijuana, where i know i'm getting a clean product.
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#77 SoBaus
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They should at least try it for like a few decades and see what happens, if it isn't good then we can go back to prohibition of drugs. Also i would like to finally try some marijuana, where i know i'm getting a clean product. X360PS3AMD05

i know in highschool it was way easier to get pot than alcohol.... because pot dealers dont card people.

regulation is always better than illegalization... and i HATE pot.

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#78 gamertylers
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They should at least try it for like a few decades and see what happens, if it isn't good then we can go back to prohibition of drugs. Also i would like to finally try some marijuana, where i know i'm getting a clean product. X360PS3AMD05
In California with a medical card you can buy it from many places knowing it's a clean product. But it would be nice if it were more readily available to the public without having to jump through hoops.