Was d-day land assault necessary?

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="imsomebody"]The only reason d-day happened was so the soviets wouldnt conquer europeimsomebody

True, but its not like the US and UK would jus sit back and say "Well, Russsia, just finish the war for us, and take even more gruesome casualties, while we sitback, just because we don't have as many troops."

See how logic works?

No not really, I don't see why they wouldn't have done it.

So I geuss the British and Canadians should've not sent any troops in D-day because America outnumbered them???

What I was trying to get at was that if it weren't for the USSR the allies would have used the same strategy against the Nazis as the one they used against the Japanese.

The Russians didn't win singlehandedly....

They could have "liberated" Europe on their own.

No they couldn't why do you think Russia is all powerful??? Is it because it's really really big...cause thats all im coming up with...

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="dealjobber"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="slicknet"]

So i'm watching band of brother, not a d-day section, but still brutal though. Well i dont know the number of land guys killed at d-day but it would make sense that Britian was pretty safe with the Yanks and Brits there thogether, so couldn't they have just bombed the Germans into defeat from thesea /air and saved the most gruesome battle ever know ?

It just seems as though they couldn't have picked a more difficult way of doing it.

thoughts!

mat_the_cat

Cowardice doesn't win wars.

It worked on Japan. (the bombs, obviously)

More Americans AND Japanese would've died if we hadn't done it.... The Japs were stubborn and wouldn't give up, so, we had to do it.

People die in war.

Other than the "People die in war." you are totally wrong. The Japanese were trying to negotiate a surrender. Obviously the US would accept nothing less than a complete surrender.

The Japanese wouldn't accept Surrender or any "defeatist" talk, until they saw the true destruction we could unleash.

no even if the japanese had tried to surrender, the americans would not let them because they wanted to test the bombs on people. that is not much higher than what hitler did to the jews

Wow and i thought i heard some dumb statements in this thread but this takes the cake.

No they couldn't why do you think Russia is all powerful??? Is it because it's really really big...cause thats all im coming up with...

Matts07

I don't know why people think that either. The Soviets and all of Western Europe would have been defeated had the Americas not helped in late 1939.

As for the topic, yes it was necessary.

D-Day was necessary not only because the of the need to stop the USSR from taking over, but also because the USSR wanted it the Allies had originally agreed to an earlier D-day, but postponed it because they didn't want to take the heavy casualties, but the SOviets were getting pissed so they had to or the allies could have fallen apart.

As for the Issue of the bomb it was originally developed for use on the NAZI's it just wasn't done in time and they decided to go ahead and use it on the Jappaneese because it was the only way to make them surrender

LS07

The USSR WAS LOSING!!!! They would not have defeated Germany!!! Why don't people understand this. Its not the Cold War Germany was stronger than Russia!!!

[QUOTE="LS07"]

D-Day was necessary not only because the of the need to stop the USSR from taking over, but also because the USSR wanted it the Allies had originally agreed to an earlier D-day, but postponed it because they didn't want to take the heavy casualties, but the SOviets were getting pissed so they had to or the allies could have fallen apart.

As for the Issue of the bomb it was originally developed for use on the NAZI's it just wasn't done in time and they decided to go ahead and use it on the Jappaneese because it was the only way to make them surrender

Matts07

The USSR WAS LOSING!!!! They would not have defeated Germany!!! Why don't people understand this. Its not the Cold War Germany was stronger than Russia!!!

[QUOTE="Matts07"][QUOTE="LS07"]

D-Day was necessary not only because the of the need to stop the USSR from taking over, but also because the USSR wanted it the Allies had originally agreed to an earlier D-day, but postponed it because they didn't want to take the heavy casualties, but the SOviets were getting pissed so they had to or the allies could have fallen apart.

As for the Issue of the bomb it was originally developed for use on the NAZI's it just wasn't done in time and they decided to go ahead and use it on the Jappaneese because it was the only way to make them surrender

mig_killer2

The USSR WAS LOSING!!!! They would not have defeated Germany!!! Why don't people understand this. Its not the Cold War Germany was stronger than Russia!!!

Well Germany got scrwed by the Russian winter and started losing ground. A lot of it was because Hitlers generals acually listened to him, but still im pretty sure the uk and usa had already landed in germany by this time.

[QUOTE="slicknet"]

So i'm watching band of brother, not a d-day section, but still brutal though. Well i dont know the number of land guys killed at d-day but it would make sense that Britian was pretty safe with the Yanks and Brits there thogether, so couldn't they have just bombed the Germans into defeat from thesea /air and saved the most gruesome battle ever know ?

It just seems as though they couldn't have picked a more difficult way of doing it.

thoughts!

NicktehImperial

Cowardice doesn't win wars.

Well said. Of course it was nessecary, we had to rid the world of the Nazi's, and this was the best plan of attack to take.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Matts07"][QUOTE="LS07"]

D-Day was necessary not only because the of the need to stop the USSR from taking over, but also because the USSR wanted it the Allies had originally agreed to an earlier D-day, but postponed it because they didn't want to take the heavy casualties, but the SOviets were getting pissed so they had to or the allies could have fallen apart.

As for the Issue of the bomb it was originally developed for use on the NAZI's it just wasn't done in time and they decided to go ahead and use it on the Jappaneese because it was the only way to make them surrender

Matts07

The USSR WAS LOSING!!!! They would not have defeated Germany!!! Why don't people understand this. Its not the Cold War Germany was stronger than Russia!!!

Well Germany got scrwed by the Russian winter and started losing ground. A lot of it was because Hitlers generals acually listened to him, but still im pretty sure the uk and usa had already landed in germany by this time.

yes it was, because for one if we would have flown in the troops and equipment it would take weeks instead of a couple of days, plus i bet the AA in normady was brutalmlbslugger86

They did fly in troops, lots of troops (over 12,000) were dropped in the night before.

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]yes it was, because for one if we would have flown in the troops and equipment it would take weeks instead of a couple of days, plus i bet the AA in normady was brutalLukeAF24

They did fly in troops, lots of troops (over 12,000) were dropped in the night before.

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]yes it was, because for one if we would have flown in the troops and equipment it would take weeks instead of a couple of days, plus i bet the AA in normady was brutalLukeAF24

They did fly in troops, lots of troops (over 12,000) were dropped in the night before.

im not saying they didn't im just saying that what if they woukd have flown the whole attack force instead of just the airborne troops. it would have been alot harder

[QUOTE="Matts07"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Matts07"][QUOTE="LS07"]

D-Day was necessary not only because the of the need to stop the USSR from taking over, but also because the USSR wanted it the Allies had originally agreed to an earlier D-day, but postponed it because they didn't want to take the heavy casualties, but the SOviets were getting pissed so they had to or the allies could have fallen apart.

As for the Issue of the bomb it was originally developed for use on the NAZI's it just wasn't done in time and they decided to go ahead and use it on the Jappaneese because it was the only way to make them surrender

mig_killer2

The USSR WAS LOSING!!!! They would not have defeated Germany!!! Why don't people understand this. Its not the Cold War Germany was stronger than Russia!!!

Well Germany got scrwed by the Russian winter and started losing ground. A lot of it was because Hitlers generals acually listened to him, but still im pretty sure the uk and usa had already landed in germany by this time.