Was Jesus a Socialist?

He wasn't a socilast. Soclilasts take your stuff by force and "redistrubue" it to their own pockets, while letting a little go to the poor. Jesus said we SHOULD give to the poor, not we MUST.GmasterRED

[QUOTE="GmasterRED"]He wasn't a socilast. Soclilasts take your stuff by force and "redistrubue" it to their own pockets, while letting a little go to the poor. Jesus said we SHOULD give to the poor, not we MUST.xTheExploited

[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]It's ok, conservopedia is rewriting the bible to make Jesus more conservative.wstfld

I wouldn't say so. He advocated giving to the poor and what not, but never to take. I don't really see his teachings as incompatible with capitalism. However, as under any economic system, the morality of the system much depends upon the character of those in the society.

Take this bread as it represents my body. Now take this wine as it represents my blood. Now you owe me $5.

Mystic-G

Jesus WAS NOT a Socialist :?

Jesus WAS NOT a Socialist :?

Snipes_2

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Jesus WAS NOT a Socialist :?

SpartanNapoleon

[QUOTE="SpartanNapoleon"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Jesus WAS NOT a Socialist :?

Snipes_2

Somehow I don't think Jesus cared about politics or had any political affiliation. All that can really be said that's even remotely relevant to this subject is that Jesus was selfless. Nothing more.

How you read into that is clearly up to you. All I know is a man so wholesome has no place in politics in the first place so forcing this subject is pretty pointless.

Somehow I don't think Jesus cared about politics or had any political affiliation. All that can really be said that's even remotely relevant to this subject is that Jesus was selfless. Nothing more.

How you read into that is clearly up to you. All I know is a man so wholesome has no place in politics in the first place so forcing this subject is pretty pointless.

Mystic-G

Well he certainly wasn't a capitalist. :P

But seriously, the political and economic realities on the ground when Jesus lived were so incredibly different then than they are today that I think it's basically useless to attempt to try to determine what Jesus' views on contemporary issues would be.

Republicans give more to charity than democrats. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

The difference is that conservatives believe that it is the individual's duty or responsibility to help others, whereas more liberal people believe it should be government mandated.

Ok, well he didn't have a political view...and those appear to have been taken out of context..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Somehow I don't think Jesus cared about politics or had any political affiliation. All that can really be said that's even remotely relevant to this subject is that Jesus was selfless. Nothing more.

How you read into that is clearly up to you. All I know is a man so wholesome has no place in politics in the first place so forcing this subject is pretty pointless.

Question to Christians who say that just because Jesus instructed the rich to give to the poor, he still wouldn't support social welfare programs and all those good things, because he wanted people to do so freely and out of the goodness of their own heart, rather than being forced to do so by the government - does that mean that the government shouldn't take and force an ethical stance upon its constituents on any issue (e.g. abortion, gay marriage, ect.), and should rather differ to the governed when it comes to making a decision on these issues?-Sun_Tzu-

But....socialism is evil!

Are you calling Jesus evil?! :O

Jesus was a great man :P but not really

Yes he was, and things didn't turn out too great for him now did they? That should be a lesson to all you socialist pigs.

Of course.

Rofl

Engrish_Major

no hes a religious extremist :P

Question to Christians who say that just because Jesus instructed the rich to give to the poor, he still wouldn't support social welfare programs and all those good things, because he wanted people to do so freely and out of the goodness of their own heart, rather than being forced to do so by the government - does that mean that the government shouldn't take and force an ethical stance upon its constituents on any issue (e.g. abortion, gay marriage, ect.), and should rather differ to the governed when it comes to making a decision on these issues?-Sun_Tzu-

The spin is dizzying in this thread!!! IMO Jesus as described would have been the ultimate socialist, but he wouldn't be so political about it and demanded political purity or any of that craziness.

And just to throw it out there,I'll quote a great thinker: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."-- Mahatma Gandhi

Yes he was, and things didn't turn out too great for him now did they? That should be a lesson to all you socialist pigs.

UserBane

Somehow I don't think Jesus cared about politics or had any political affiliation. All that can really be said that's even remotely relevant to this subject is that Jesus was selfless. Nothing more.

How you read into that is clearly up to you. All I know is a man so wholesome has no place in politics in the first place so forcing this subject is pretty pointless.

Yes he was, and things didn't turn out too great for him now did they? That should be a lesson to all you socialist pigs.

UserBane

In related news, I'd like to make a "Why so Socialist?" Jesus picture if I had any photoshop/GIMP skills.

There is no doubt that Jesus would have been considered a communist today, were it not for his message getting skewed by self-interested parties over the millenia into a sick, dogmatic, holier-than-thou mess!

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Yes he was, and things didn't turn out too great for him now did they? That should be a lesson to all you socialist pigs.

Pixel-Pirate

In related news, I'd like to make a "Why so Socialist?" Jesus picture if I had any photoshop/GIMP skills.

Do it! :lol:

"Blessed are you poor, for yours is the kingdom of God,"

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth," and "go, sell what you have, and give to the poor."

"I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me." When the righteous answered that they didn't recall doing any of these things, he said, "as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me."

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for someone rich to enter the kingdom of Heaven"

SpartanNapoleon

Way to take what he said out of context. Socialists believe in imposing their policies on the rich, making them give to the poor. Jesus wanted it to be more of a choice than forcing us to give.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SpartanNapoleon"] Explain.....SpartanNapoleon

Eh, not necessarily by the means by which socialism does so.

this is one of the many contradictions you get when you have the "religious right".chopperdave447

While I take issue with a number of positions taken by the religious right, this is not a contradiction.

[QUOTE="chopperdave447"]this is one of the many contradictions you get when you have the "religious right".coolbeans90

While I take issue with a number of positions taken by the religious right, this is not a contradiction.

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[QUOTE="chopperdave447"]this is one of the many contradictions you get when you have the "religious right".Danm_999

While I take issue with a number of positions taken by the religious right, this is not a contradiction.

I'm assuming that it's one of the kinds where a governing body coercivelly seizes possessions and redistributes them.

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While I take issue with a number of positions taken by the religious right, this is not a contradiction.

coolbeans90

I'm assuming that it's one of the kinds where a governing body coercivelly seizes possessions and redistributes them.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"] Depends on which brand of socialism honestly.Danm_999

I'm assuming that it's one of the kinds where a governing body coercivelly seizes possessions and redistributes them.

Understood. Not trying to get into a semantics war, but the impression that I've gotten from the thread is that it is this specific sort.

He wasn't political......that which you've posted is personal actions....not societal.LJS9502_basic