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#1 Carlos_Santana
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I heard that many historians believe that. They say that Stalin was responsible for more deaths. Anyways, Your thoughts? (BTW, Hitler was censored in the Topic Title)
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#2 Marx_Brother
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Stalin was worse.

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#3 MattUD1
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Stalin was at least 5x worse.

Stalin had like 32 million kills to his name (not all personally, I guess if you included soldiers in WW2 and the Finnish and the Continuation War...)
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#4 Account_27
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They were both bad. But, even if Stalin is responsible for more deaths, he did not genocide 6 million people based on their race.
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#5 Shalashaska77
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Stalin was waay worse
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#6 mark4091
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stalin was actually worse if you were 5 mins late for work they could send you to work camps and every day the would randomly shoot 20 people in the camps.
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#7 Greatgone12
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Stalin just liked killing people, so that would make him a murderer.... But Hitler killed people because of their religion. So he's an intolerant murderer. They were both horrible people, though.
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#8 Artosa
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stalin was a tyrant, but hitler was worse. stalin is a bad representetive for communism, the only good thing he did was the 5 year plan, and having a big part in the war
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#9 metallica_fan42
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They were both bad. But, even if Stalin is responsible for more deaths, he did not genocide 6 million people based on their race.Account_27
I agree.
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#10 easteast
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Hitler was an absolute Monster.
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#11 ROFLMASTER
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they both deserve to burn in hell...although Hitler did build Highways an lots of nifty stuff...wait...that doesn't make up for what he did!
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They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. 
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#13 Apenoot
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I voted 'equal' although Stalin was responsible for way more deaths. Hitler at least had an 'excuse' (though a lame one) for killing so many ppl in the Death camps. He 'thought it was the right thing to do' for humanity, ****** up though his reasoning might've been. Stalin just killed without any really obvious reason.

They're both killers far beyong reason so that's why I voted equal.

And to the guy who said 6 million deaths in the camps... It were actually closer to 12 million. 6 million is the number of Jews

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They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. tomxizor
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust
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#15 nickmag
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[QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Carlos_Santana
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman
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#16 lone_wolf911
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all dictators suck
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[QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Carlos_Santana
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

He did quite a bit fore Germany before the war. I believe he was responsible for the autobahn(sp?) which is a huge highway still in operation today.
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I voted 'equal' although Stalin was responsible for way more deaths. Hitler at least had an 'excuse' (though a lame one) for killing so many ppl in the Death camps. He 'thought it was the right thing to do' for humanity, ****** up though his reasoning might've been. Stalin just killed without any really obvious reason.

They're both killers far beyong reason so that's why I voted equal.

And to the guy who said 6 million deaths in the camps... It were actually closer to 12 million. 6 million is the number of Jews

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[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. nickmag
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman

Didn't he die right in the midlle of the Depression? And Hitler built the autobahn, and made a work program similar to the U.S.A.'s Civilian Conservation Corps, which put many people back to work
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#20 Nisstyre_56
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Stalin
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#21 LA_lakers_4life
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stalin killed more people but they were mainly his own people....hitler killed less people but from all over europe....hitler just gets a bad rap cause of the holocaust
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#22 jim_shorts
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Stalin was responsible for more deaths, so I'm going with him
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#23 Brainkiller05
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All I know about Stalin was he killed (orded people to kill) the family of people who go in his way :? that's all I remember about him from my History lessons a year ago.
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#24 bastards12345
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Josef Stalin.
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#25 marolia
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Adolf Hitler was worse.
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#26 Video_Game_King
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They were both bad. But, even if Stalin is responsible for more deaths, he did not genocide 6 million people based on their race.Account_27


No, he did because he felt like it and it helped affirm his power. Stalin was FAR worse.
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[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Carlos_Santana
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman

Didn't he die right in the midlle of the Depression? And Hitler built the autobahn, and made a work program similar to the U.S.A.'s Civilian Conservation Corps, which put many people back to work



Wow, I never knew it was humanly possible to find something good about Hitler.
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[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Video_Game_King
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman

Didn't he die right in the midlle of the Depression? And Hitler built the autobahn, and made a work program similar to the U.S.A.'s Civilian Conservation Corps, which put many people back to work



Wow, I never knew it was humanly possible to find something good about Hitler.

Hitler also loved animals, and was a vegetarian.
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#29 Conanfan1
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Well, Stalin isn't censored on GS.
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Hewkii
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman

Didn't he die right in the midlle of the Depression? And Hitler built the autobahn, and made a work program similar to the U.S.A.'s Civilian Conservation Corps, which put many people back to work



Wow, I never knew it was humanly possible to find something good about Hitler.

Hitler also loved animals, and was a vegetarian.

that's kind of funny.  He killed so many people yet he loved animals.  He had his priorities all out of whack.
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[QUOTE="Apenoot"]

I voted 'equal' although Stalin was responsible for way more deaths. Hitler at least had an 'excuse' (though a lame one) for killing so many ppl in the Death camps. He 'thought it was the right thing to do' for humanity, ****** up though his reasoning might've been. Stalin just killed without any really obvious reason.

They're both killers far beyong reason so that's why I voted equal.

And to the guy who said 6 million deaths in the camps... It were actually closer to 12 million. 6 million is the number of Jews

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Yeah, I heard that Hitler was a total meth addict too.
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#32 Guiltfeeder566
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Mao was worse then both. Combined.
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#33 ElToRo_14
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lol they blocked out the word hitler from the topic? He really must be bad. I think they were both equal in the aspect of who was worse. They both killed many people. Stalin killed his own people for not following his laws, and Hitler killed just because they didn't fit into his "master race".
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#34 -Karayan-
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Stalin was at least 5x worse.

Stalin had like 32 million kills to his name (not all personally, I guess if you included soldiers in WW2 and the Finnish and the Continuation War...)
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Stalin defended himself, he's not responsible for any WW2 deaths, he wanted to avoid war with Germany. Although, he might have prevented Russian deaths if he wasn't so cocky to believe Germany would never invade the USSR.
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#35 quiglythegreat
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I feel like it's wrong even to compare them.
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#36 OODALOOP
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Stalin was responsible for more deaths; Hitler was responsible for some of the more horrific war crimes and atrocities in history, and espoused a ethnic hate ideology which still lives on today. Neither was good. However, I don't think it's a contest. That kind of thinking is juvenile and trivializing, in my opinion.
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#37 puremage1209
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Stalin was way worse. He was responsible for many more deaths that Adolf Hitler was, and they did essentially the same thing. Hitler went and killed as many Jews as possible, and Stalin went into Ukraine and took all the food, causing about 20,000,000 deaths
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#38 -911-
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Stalin was worse mainly for killing his own people for just disagreeing with him.
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#39 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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Depends on your take on it. Are we talking about responsibility of deaths? Are we including civilian and military deaths? Then WWII alone had over 60 million deaths. Stalin had a shade over 20 million.
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#40 teh_forbidden
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It's impossible hard to measure there "levels of evil" like you measure an earthquake.
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#41 Squidward117
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I feel like it's wrong even to compare them.quiglythegreat


I feel the same way... Which is why I shall not submit a vote!
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[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Video_Game_King
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman

Didn't he die right in the midlle of the Depression? And Hitler built the autobahn, and made a work program similar to the U.S.A.'s Civilian Conservation Corps, which put many people back to work



Wow, I never knew it was humanly possible to find something good about Hitler.

He did do some good, but the shadow casted above those deeds almost completely blocks it out. Before he was a member of the Nazi Part, his passion was Art. But he was not accepted to an Art School that he wanted to go to. He later found out that 4/7 of the people that rejected him were Jewish. He didn't like that, too much.
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#43 ConManWithGun
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Id say stalin, Hitler never "really" killed anybody, Nazi's did
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Id say stalin, Hitler never "really" killed anybody, Nazi's didConManWithGun
I'm sure he did once or twice out of the 11 million people killed.
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[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"]Id say stalin, Hitler never "really" killed anybody, Nazi's didCarlos_Santana
I'm sure he did once or twice out of the 11 million people killed.

nope, my old history teacher told us he never killed anyone himself, his guards did his bidding
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[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]They were both equal. Hitler was just frighteningly bad, while Stalin was tyrant-scary bad. Remember, Stalin did help us take down Hitler but his army slaughtered thousands of innocent civillians in the process. Video_Game_King
True, and Although Hitler was responsible for an estimated 11 million deaths, I wanted to add to your coment by saying that he did get Germany out of a svere depression before the Holocaust

Hitler ddn't get them out of depression, it was Stresseman

Didn't he die right in the midlle of the Depression? And Hitler built the autobahn, and made a work program similar to the U.S.A.'s Civilian Conservation Corps, which put many people back to work



Wow, I never knew it was humanly possible to find something good about Hitler.

Its called thinking outside the box.
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#47 foxhound_fox
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Stalin was worse... and Mao Zedong was even worse. Hitler is a small fry compared to those two.

Hitler's bad rep was because of his targeted killings and the fact they lost the war. Not that I am condoning anything he ever did mind you.
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#48 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Stalin was at least 5x worse.

Stalin had like 32 million kills to his name (not all personally, I guess if you included soldiers in WW2 and the Finnish and the Continuation War...)
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Stalin defended himself, he's not responsible for any WW2 deaths, he wanted to avoid war with Germany. Although, he might have prevented Russian deaths if he wasn't so cocky to believe Germany would never invade the USSR.

That's why I said if... As a little defense and a possible boost/ decrease to numbers.
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#49 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Apenoot"]

I voted 'equal' although Stalin was responsible for way more deaths. Hitler at least had an 'excuse' (though a lame one) for killing so many ppl in the Death camps. He 'thought it was the right thing to do' for humanity, ****** up though his reasoning might've been. Stalin just killed without any really obvious reason.

They're both killers far beyong reason so that's why I voted equal.

And to the guy who said 6 million deaths in the camps... It were actually closer to 12 million. 6 million is the number of Jews

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Don't forget that he was on more pills than Elvis.

Yeah, I heard that Hitler was a total meth addict too.

There was a program on the History Channel about his supposed drug addictions... They had an entire list that they would show parts of during the first half hour. Most of the stuff had something to do with meth. There was one, Vitamultin, that was really odd.
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[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="ConManWithGun"]Id say stalin, Hitler never "really" killed anybody, Nazi's didConManWithGun
I'm sure he did once or twice out of the 11 million people killed.

nope, my old history teacher told us he never killed anyone himself, his guards did his bidding

Nu-uh. He did kill one person [spoiler] Himself! Bet ya didn't think of that one :P [/spoiler]