Watchmen MOVIE discussion

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Here's another of my problems with the ending in the movie...

in the book, Dr Manhattan leaves because he CHOOSES to. Although he has a fondness for human life, he is done with humanity and CHOOSES to leave. Of his own free will.

That is certainly NOT the case in the movie. In the movie, he sort of HAS to leave. He CAN'T stay, after what he "allegedly" did. And he can't tell anyone that he didn't do it without potentially causing humanity to be destroyed. His decision to leave suddenly means NOTHING, since he no longer has any choice in the matter.

enterawesome

That's my point.

Technically, Dr Manhattan can do just about anything he wants to because he's practically a god.

But he can't stay UNLESS he's willing to be responsible for the chaos that ensues. He clearly does NOT want to let this happen, as in both the movie and the book he kills Rorschach for threatening to expose the truth.

But there is a clear difference here all the same. In the book, the option is still open to him to simply return to earth. This would not result in nuclear war. He could conceivably be welcomed back.

But in the movie, returning to Earth would likely result in global nuclear war. He would not be welcomed back, and there is no conceivable way for him to be accepted without him also being the cause of the deaths of billions of people.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Here's another of my problems with the ending in the movie...

in the book, Dr Manhattan leaves because he CHOOSES to. Although he has a fondness for human life, he is done with humanity and CHOOSES to leave. Of his own free will.

That is certainly NOT the case in the movie. In the movie, he sort of HAS to leave. He CAN'T stay, after what he "allegedly" did. And he can't tell anyone that he didn't do it without potentially causing humanity to be destroyed. His decision to leave suddenly means NOTHING, since he no longer has any choice in the matter.

That's my point.

Technically, Dr Manhattan can do just about anything he wants to because he's practically a god.

But he can't stay UNLESS he's willing to be responsible for the chaos that ensues. He clearly does NOT want to let this happen, as in both the movie and the book he kills Rorschach for threatening to expose the truth.

But there is a clear difference here all the same. In the book, the option is still open to him to simply return to earth. This would not result in nuclear war. He could conceivably be welcomed back.

But in the movie, returning to Earth would likely result in global nuclear war. He would not be welcomed back, and there is no conceivable way for him to be accepted without him also being the cause of the deaths of billions of people.

Well I just bought The Director's Cut, so I guess now I can see for myself....

I'm going in flushing out all the reactions I heard about the film :P

[QUOTE="gamer_10001"]

Halleluia; are all very well placed songs.Brutal_Elitegs

next thing you're gona tell me 99 luft balloons wasnt well placed

Movie sucked.

And yeah, the music sucked too. Not that the actual SONGS were bad, it's just that they didn't fit. Aside from the opening credits with "The Times They are A'changing", the movie sucked.

BYW, if the whole movie had had the heart and soul of the opening credit sequence, I probably would have loved the movie. The opening credit sequence was fantastic, most of the stuff with Rorschach and Dr Manhattan wasn't ****ed up TOO much (aside from the ending of course), and the rest of the movie sucked.

A big and obvious complaint is why they didn't get better actors. If nothing else had been changed, the movie would have been at least twice as good as it ended up being if only they'd gotten better actors.

And although this is a minor point, I wanted to murder Zack Snyder every time it appeared...what the ****ing HELL was up with all of those scenes with Richard Nixon? That **** wasn't even in the book, it didn't add anything to the movie, and I wanted to walk out of the damn movie every time I saw Richard Nixon's $1.20 Homer Simpson nose. Every damn second they spent fixating on Richard Damn Nixon's nose could've been spent focusing on the no-name scenery characters in order to give their demise some significance.

MrGeezer

It was a brave choice for Snyder to employ such obscure actors as he did, but I think that it is a commendable decision. It allows the movie to be acknowledged because of its own merits and not merely because it features the latest fashionable Hollywood A-lister. More importantly, this allows the personality and quirks of the graphic novel characters to be highlighted rather than that of the actors playing them.