Westboro Baptist Church uses iPhone to announce protest of Steve Jobs

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#51 deactivated-59d151f079814
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The irony is Steve Jobs did infinitely more good for the world than the Phelps family will ever do.
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#52 TheFallenDemon
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I miss the good old days when the government would bring in the National Guards and tanks to crush protestors. Why can't we do the same with WBC?
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#53 angeldeb82
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Dude! The WBC freaks are now protesting his funeral! When will they ever learn? :evil:
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#54 TransFishers
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It's amazing that atheists like this user think they know the bible more than christians.alexside1
I can actually confidently say I know more of the bible than at least half the self proclaimed Christians I've met in my life. Reading the bible is, after all, how I lost my faith in faith. :D
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#55 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="TransFishers"][QUOTE="CrossChecked"]What do you mean by embracing all the horrible stuff in the OT?alexside1

The OT is a mess, and the God character presented in it a bloody tyrant. Most modern Christians tend to ignore the horrible stuff he said and did. WBC does not. Most normal people know that killing people for being gay (as Yahweh does in the OT) is abhorrent, immoral, and just flat out evil. So rather than defend it, they ignore it. (it's highly uncomfortable for them to come to terms with the actions of God in the OT, he's just not a defensible character anymore) The WBC doesn't ignore it, they hate gay people because God commanded them to do so, and if they could get away with it, I have no doubt they would just go around rounding them up and slaughtering them en masse.

.....How many times does this type of **** have to be debunk? You can explain millions of time about the ot and yet they keep insisting that they should follow the ot word by word. It's one thing to show disbleive in the bible. It's another to spread information that isn't even to be held amongs the christains.

It's amazing that atheists like this user think they know the bible more than christians.

I just going to label this a PRATT and nothing more. I not going to debunk this. Not worth my time.

Why won't you respond to it ? It would have been easier to just respond to what he said than write a whole paragraph about how it's been debunked so many times etc.
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#56 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="TransFishers"] The OT is a mess, and the God character presented in it a bloody tyrant. Most modern Christians tend to ignore the horrible stuff he said and did. WBC does not. Most normal people know that killing people for being gay (as Yahweh does in the OT) is abhorrent, immoral, and just flat out evil. So rather than defend it, they ignore it. (it's highly uncomfortable for them to come to terms with the actions of God in the OT, he's just not a defensible character anymore) The WBC doesn't ignore it, they hate gay people because God commanded them to do so, and if they could get away with it, I have no doubt they would just go around rounding them up and slaughtering them en masse.dkdk999

.....How many times does this type of **** have to be debunk? You can explain millions of time about the ot and yet they keep insisting that they should follow the ot word by word. It's one thing to show disbleive in the bible. It's another to spread information that isn't even to be held amongs the christains.

It's amazing that atheists like this user think they know the bible more than christians.

I just going to label this a PRATT and nothing more. I not going to debunk this. Not worth my time.

Why won't you respond to it ? It would have been easier to just respond to what he said than write a whole paragraph about how it's been debunked so many times etc.

What part "not worth my time" do you not understand?
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]It's amazing that atheists like this user think they know the bible more than christians.TransFishers
I can actually confidently say I know more of the bible than at least half the self proclaimed Christians I've met in my life. Reading the bible is, after all, how I lost my faith in faith. :D

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible".

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#58 TransFishers
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Why won't you respond to it ? It would have been easier to just respond to what he said than write a whole paragraph about how it's been debunked so many times etc. dkdk999
I don't mind him, neither should you. That's a typical response I get on and offline, and it doesn't even bother me anymore. ;)
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#59 UniverseIX
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if you remove god from the equation their message makes a lot of sense.
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I miss the good old days when the government would bring in the National Guards and tanks to crush protestors. Why can't we do the same with WBC?TheFallenDemon
Yeah all those beatings and four shootings of innnocent university students were really awesome. :| I would also like to add that while in college both Wozniak and Jobs were in the middle of a campus protest where the police and riot control were called.

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#61 alexside1
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[QUOTE="TransFishers"][QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="TransFishers"][QUOTE="alexside1"]It's amazing that atheists like this user think they know the bible more than christians.Lach0121

I can actually confidently say I know more of the bible than at least half the self proclaimed Christians I've met in my life. Reading the bible is, after all, how I lost my faith in faith. :D

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible".

This is the type of attitude that I can't stand the most. The whole " I am smarter than you, because I'm an atheist". Reading the book does not automatically make you an expert on it. Most likely, he/she just read with the 21st century goggles. Tell me oh great "expert". Am I wrong? "That's a typical response I get on and offline, and it doesn't even bother me anymore." It doesn't matter if it's a typical response or not. Ether I'm right or am I wrong, which you apparently doge from my rest of my post by quoting it of context.
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#62 Pikdum
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People need to stop giving them so much attention.

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#63 wiifan001
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*reads article* iLaugh.
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#64 Vesica_Prime
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"God created iPhone for that purpose! "

The creators of the iPhone were Apple/Steve Jobs and by referring to them as 'God' they're committing idolatry. Which is against the Ten Commandments.

Well done you bunch of savages.

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#65 bpthomas85
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if i was steve jobs family i would buy all the property within a mile of the funeral home and have bodyguards shoot the phelps family on sight for tresspassing.

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[QUOTE="TransFishers"][QUOTE="alexside1"] I can actually confidently say I know more of the bible than at least half the self proclaimed Christians I've met in my life. Reading the bible is, after all, how I lost my faith in faith. :Dalexside1

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible".

This is the type of attitude that I can't stand the most. The whole " I am smarter than you, because I'm an atheist". Reading the book does not automatically make you an expert on it. Most likely, he/she just read with the 21st century goggles. Tell me oh great "expert". Am I wrong? "That's a typical response I get on and offline, and it doesn't even bother me anymore." It doesn't matter if it's a typical response or not. Ether I'm right or am I wrong, which you apparently doge from my rest of my post by quoting it of context.

Wow at your assumptions.

Where did I say any of the crap you assume I said, or have an attitude about.

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible". This is what I typed. That is all. If you drew up all that nonsense, out of this post, then it is you my friend who have a problem!

Same goes for blindly following, also doesn't make you an expert my friend. Oh great expert, whose assumptions are leading you to try and lash at people in ways you have no reason for doing so... I just stated an absolute fact, don't like it, enlighten yourself. If your comments were directed at me, you may need to re-read that my friend, what I stated was fact, and not a I am smarter because of this routine that YOU DREW UP IN YOUR OWN MIND.

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#67 Gamingclone
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Lol, Im not clicking the link, why are they protesting Steve Jobs? Do they believe he doesnt deserve the attention he is getting? Do they think he isnt really dead? or... idk.

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#68 Victorious_Fize
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People need to stop giving them so much attention.

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Where else will they get their money from!?
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="TransFishers"]

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible".

Lach0121

This is the type of attitude that I can't stand the most. The whole " I am smarter than you, because I'm an atheist". Reading the book does not automatically make you an expert on it. Most likely, he/she just read with the 21st century goggles. Tell me oh great "expert". Am I wrong? "That's a typical response I get on and offline, and it doesn't even bother me anymore." It doesn't matter if it's a typical response or not. Ether I'm right or am I wrong, which you apparently doge from my rest of my post by quoting it of context.

Wow at your assumptions.

Where did I say any of the crap you assume I said, or have an attitude about.

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible". This is what I typed. That is all. If you drew up all that nonsense, out of this post, then it is you my friend who have a problem!

Same goes for blindly following, also doesn't make you an expert my friend. Oh great expert, whose assumptions are leading you to try and lash at people in ways you have no reason for doing so... I just stated an absolute fact, don't like it, enlighten yourself. If your comments were directed at me, you may need to re-read that my friend, what I stated was fact, and not a I am smarter because of this routine that YOU DREW UP IN YOUR OWN MIND.

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#70 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] This is the type of attitude that I can't stand the most. The whole " I am smarter than you, because I'm an atheist". Reading the book does not automatically make you an expert on it. Most likely, he/she just read with the 21st century goggles. Tell me oh great "expert". Am I wrong? "That's a typical response I get on and offline, and it doesn't even bother me anymore." It doesn't matter if it's a typical response or not. Ether I'm right or am I wrong, which you apparently doge from my rest of my post by quoting it of context.ad1x2

Wow at your assumptions.

Where did I say any of the crap you assume I said, or have an attitude about.

Many so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible". This is what I typed. That is all. If you drew up all that nonsense, out of this post, then it is you my friend who have a problem!

Same goes for blindly following, also doesn't make you an expert my friend. Oh great expert, whose assumptions are leading you to try and lash at people in ways you have no reason for doing so... I just stated an absolute fact, don't like it, enlighten yourself. If your comments were directed at me, you may need to re-read that my friend, what I stated was fact, and not a I am smarter because of this routine that YOU DREW UP IN YOUR OWN MIND.

Wait I am confused on this, are you just agreeing with what I say, or did the message that you typed get erased somehow?

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#71 ad1x2
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Wait I am confused on this, are you just agreeing with what I say, or did the message that you typed get erased somehow?

Lach0121

My reply didn't post, which is a side effect of posting on an Android while your wife is driving. What I meant to say was most Christians don't go by what the Old Testament says because after the death and resurrection of Jesus we went from punishing sinners on the spot to forgiving sinners who asked for forgiveness and sending the rest to Hell. Or at least that was how it was explained to me several years ago (I'm no Bible expert by any means, so don't shoot the messenger).

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#72 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]Wait I am confused on this, are you just agreeing with what I say, or did the message that you typed get erased somehow?

ad1x2

My reply didn't post, which is a side effect of posting on an Android while your wife is driving. What I meant to say was most Christians don't go by what the Old Testament says because after the death and resurrection of Jesus we went from punishing sinners on the spot to forgiving sinners who asked for forgiveness and sending the rest to Hell. Or at least that was how it was explained to me several years ago (I'm no Bible expert by any means, so don't shoot the messenger).

Oh ok I was wondering, Yeah my posts have been kinda wacky lately too, not exactly how I typed them out, thats why I have so many edits, and I am not that good of a speller lol.

I do not disagree with you, I was just stating thatMany so called "Christians" cannot stand this fact. There are plenty of (non-religous people) who are extremely knowledgable about religious books, not limited to just the "Bible".

And Alex wanted to jump down my throat saying I am having the attitude ... well you see what all he/she stated.

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#73 DaJuicyMan
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Everything gets bombed these days, can't anyone bomb them and get it over with? Seriously.GazaAli
Can't say I disagree with this post.
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#74 angeldeb82
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Well, it is reported that Jobs' funeral would be private today. So tough luck for those Westboro Baptist freaks then. Story
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[QUOTE="Pikdum"]

People need to stop giving them so much attention.

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Where else will they get their money from!?

Getting some Jobs themselves? so terrible, couldn't resist it.
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#76 Pffrbt
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Stop giving them attention.

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#77 JasonDarksavior
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This actually makes me angry. I respect Jobs a lot and doing this to someone ... Just not acceptable.
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#78 Morphic
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I'm sure they could whip up a why steve jobs is evil speech in a few minutes. Isn't it funny they always protest the big media events?

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#79 jimmyjammer69
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I'm sure they could whip up a why steve jobs is evil speech in a few minutes. Isn't it funny they always protest the big media events?

Morphic
I just wish they'd vary their act a bit. The whole funeral thing has grown very stale.
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#80 jediknight52501
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i swear they are going too far now.
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#81 dackchaar
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Oh wow....you know how sometimes people can be so dumb you just want to punch them in the face? Well, this is definitely one of those times.

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#82 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="TransFishers"][QUOTE="CrossChecked"]

I wish we could just start calling them the Westboro Cult. Seriously. These guys give a bad name to Baptists, and churches in general. What a bunch of idiots.

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Honestly, I've seen a video examining claims like this before, and biblically speaking, these people are definitely pure Christians. Just that unlike modern Christians, who ignore all that horrible stuff in the OT, they embrace it.

Funny that the son of God walked with whores/taxmen and all sorts of people. People that don''t follow christ need to take the "christian" out of their name.Stop raping his name.

Who's name?
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What has the World come to? They obviously haven't been getting enough attention lately.

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Facepalm.

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#85 amphitheater
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Why do these people everything and anything under the sun? Are they funded by someone in the government to have the necessities to stage a protest?
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#86 Moriarity_
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If God made the iPhone, who made my LG?

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Zeus?
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#87 tenaka2
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They get a lot of headlines, its very bad for the U.S. image.

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#88 kris9031998
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This is kinda why im starting to dislike my own faith, the crazy people out there who do things like this
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#89 Lach0121
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This is kinda why im starting to dislike my own faith, the crazy people out there who do things like thiskris9031998

Faith and religion are often confused for the same thing.

Everyone has faith, not everyone has religion.

Faith that your car will start, when you crank it. Faith that you don't get fired from your job.

Faith that during hardships you will come through.

Faith is closer to hope, than it is religion.

Your faith, is not the same as theirs if your not out there doing the same crap. Regardless if you are both considering yourselves "Christian".

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#90 The-Apostle
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I thought this was about his refusing to allow the Manhattan Declaration and Exodus Project as apps on his products. Now I'm disappointed. Don't agree with them protesting his funeral, though...
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#91 Frame_Dragger
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They get a lot of headlines, its very bad for the U.S. image.

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It's bad for their image... the US is trashing its image all on its own without help from the WBC.
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#92 Rougehunter
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So if they belive that God made to Iphone and Steve Jobs made the Iphone, would that make Steve Jobs God?

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#93 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

They get a lot of headlines, its very bad for the U.S. image.

Frame_Dragger

It's bad for their image... the US is trashing its image all on its own without help from the WBC.

LOL too true!