what are the Biggest turn offs and turn ons for ya?

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Well I definitely envy you. You can talk about guys so easily, I don't think Ive ever made or said anything like that about anyone I found attractive.

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad one. :?

Dark_Knight6

That's actually something I do well through text but not so well vocally. This is one of the few places I get to talk about it, so I don't really hold back, so to say. :P And I'm a teenager, I've got wondering eyes. :P

If I may ask both of you, when did you discover you were gay And mexicangordo, Dark_Knight can attest to the fact that I'm not a Bible-thumping Christian. I'm just quite curious.battlefront23

It's true. He's one of the few Christians I respect and get along with. Personally, I started to question myself when I was like 15. I realized when I was sixteen that I wasn't straight. And realized that I was gay like last March. But looking back on my life, I should have realized it a long, long time ago.

No, something's wrong with the graphics card. I've been dealt with only playing my friend's N64 and all the games I have are multiplayer games. It's really terrible. :Pbattlefront23

That sucks. I assume Microsoft wants you to pay for a repair, too?

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Well I definitely envy you. You can talk about guys so easily, I don't think Ive ever made or said anything like that about anyone I found attractive.

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad one. :?

battlefront23

That's actually something I do well through text but not so well vocally. This is one of the few places I get to talk about it, so I don't really hold back, so to say. :P And I'm a teenager, I've got wondering eyes. :P

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

It's true. He's one of the few Christians I respect and get along with. Personally, I started to question myself when I was like 15. I realized when I was sixteen that I wasn't straight. And realized that I was gay like last March. But looking back on my life, I should have realized it a long, long time ago.

Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]No, something's wrong with the graphics card. I've been dealt with only playing my friend's N64 and all the games I have are multiplayer games. It's really terrible. :PDark_Knight6

That sucks. I assume Microsoft wants you to pay for a repair, too?

:P

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Well I definitely envy you. You can talk about guys so easily, I don't think Ive ever made or said anything like that about anyone I found attractive.

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad one. :?

Dark_Knight6

That's actually something I do well through text but not so well vocally. This is one of the few places I get to talk about it, so I don't really hold back, so to say. :P And I'm a teenager, I've got wondering eyes. :P

I honestly don't know. But I first "questioned" myself when I was in Football my Freshmen year. I also had my first same sex relationship that year with someone on the team...Very weird...Then I hit a bad depression and blah blah blah.

mexicangordo

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] I honestly don't know. But I first "questioned" myself when I was in Football my Freshmen year. I also had my first same sex relationship that year with someone on the team...Very weird...Then I hit a bad depression and blah blah blah.

battlefront23

Its funny, I hate religion, but I love Jesus. Puts me in a weird spot when I talk to my friends. :P Was it wandering eyes? Or you just simply found nothing attractive in females? Or am I not even in the ballpark? :P battlefront23

That is an odd spot to be in. And I don't hate all Christians, but I do hate Christianity. It started out as wondering eyes and I'd think "Wow, he's cute." or something along those lines. Then immediatly after think "Wait, no! I didn't just think that!" And it kind of just played out like that for a while until I slowly started becoming more comfortable with it.

Indeed. But I think I'm just gonna buy an Arcade and grab a three year warranty. I just need some funds now... >_>battlefront23

Yeah, Arcade's a pretty cheap now, I think.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] I honestly don't know. But I first "questioned" myself when I was in Football my Freshmen year. I also had my first same sex relationship that year with someone on the team...Very weird...Then I hit a bad depression and blah blah blah.

mexicangordo

O yes, I forgot that you are much younger than I am. You act way mature for your age but then again, it is the internet.

mexicangordo

Well, thanks. But in all honesty, I can act incredibly immature. :P I guess it's just how I present myself here.

Fair enough. I've always wondered how homosexuality works in the mind, if that makes sense. Hopefully that doesn't seem like I'm belittling you guys, I just have no idea how you could possibly find another man attractive. :Pbattlefront23

Don't worry, that makes sense that you'd want to know. It works in the same way that you find women attractive. There's really no thought behind it, you just do.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Its funny, I hate religion, but I love Jesus. Puts me in a weird spot when I talk to my friends. :P Was it wandering eyes? Or you just simply found nothing attractive in females? Or am I not even in the ballpark? :P Dark_Knight6

That is an odd spot to be in. And I don't hate all Christians, but I do hate Christianity. It started out as wondering eyes and I'd think "Wow, he's cute." or something along those lines. Then immediatly after think "Wait, no! I didn't just think that!" And it kind of just played out like that for a while until I slowly started becoming more comfortable with it.

Indeed. But I think I'm just gonna buy an Arcade and grab a three year warranty. I just need some funds now... >_>battlefront23

Yeah, Arcade's a pretty cheap now, I think.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"] Bad depression because of what, if I may ask? I feel like Ray Comfort right now, but I really am just wondering. lol

battlefront23

Its just weird, for me anyway. I still can't grasp the thought of it.

Turn ons: Being affectionate, a beautiful smile

Turn offs: Smoking, lack of a sex drive

Yeah I know. But I'm just really annoyed with my school and the type of Jesus they like to present. It's dumb. So there's no thought process? Because sometimes I have felt that way, but I don't really think anything of it. $200 total. My b-day's coming up! :)battlefront23

My personal problem with a good amount of Christians is how wishy-washy they are. They'll look at one single, tiny verse from an entire book, use it to justify a stance and then completely ignored everything else in that specific book. And a good deal of them completely ignore some primary teachings of Jesus. The one's where he states to be loving, and to not judge, to be exact.

Homosexuality is exactly like hetereosexuality, except the attraction you feel is towards people of the same gender as opposed to the opposite. It's not a choice, it's something that's just kind of "there".

Ah, nice. I'd be going crazy if my 360 broke, personally. :P

My personal problem with a good amount of Christians is how wishy-washy they are. They'll look at one single, tiny verse from an entire book, use it to justify a stance and then completely ignored everything else in that specific book. And a good deal of them completely ignore some primary teachings of Jesus. The one's where he states to be loving, and to not judge, to be exact.

Homosexuality is exactly like hetereosexuality, except the attraction you feel is towards people of the same gender as opposed to the opposite. It's not a choice, it's something that's just kind of "there".

Ah, nice. I'd be going crazy if my 360 broke, personally. :P

Dark_Knight6

turn ons: intelligence or a little nerdy (or she can be average but will put up with my nerdiness). undyed hair. good at getting me more sociable (very few girls pulled this off). slightly curvy/with a little meat, I hate skinny girls; I don't like fat girls either but I don't want to date a girl with the body of a 12 year old anyway curvy girls have softer skin :)

turn offs: smoke/drug user, too friendly with the guys (I can completely trust my girlfriend with guy friends but if she is naturally flirty then no, after all she's human and can make mistakes), average/below-average intelligence and can't relate to my nerdy personality.

Definitely. I try to look at one verse in correlation to the passage. A lot of Christians don't unfortunately. Well I don't know, for me when I had a random feeling towards a guy, I chose to not act on it or think about it. And I no longer do anymore. So I don't know, from my own experience it does seem like choice is a part of it, but maybe not the entirety of it. I'm getting there. My descent to madness is almost complete. Luckily I've been pretty busy up to this point. Hopefully before Christmas I'll get my Arcade, Hopefully!

battlefront23

Well, I've always had feelings for guys, even before I hit puberty. I wasn't attracted to them sexually, per say, but I was just fascinated by the way they looked. And for me, it wasn't just random feelings, I'd constantly have those thoughts. And trust me when I say I tried to ignore them. It was fairly well hard wired into my head that it was bad and it was just something that you're not supposed to think. If it were a choice, I would have chosen otherwise.

I constantly use my 360. If not for games, then for movies or to play music. Music makes me a happy person. :P

Well, I've always had feelings for guys, even before I hit puberty. I wasn't attracted to them sexually, per say, but I was just fascinated by the way they looked. And for me, it wasn't just random feelings, I'd constantly have those thoughts. And trust me when I say I tried to ignore them. It was fairly well hard wired into my head that it was bad and it was just something that you're not supposed to think. If it were a choice, I would have chosen otherwise. I constantly use my 360. If not for games, then for movies or to play music. Music makes me a happy person. :P

Dark_Knight6

Did you ask your parents about those thoughts/feelings? Same, music has been my lifeline for the past 3 months with almost all of my friends playing football. I wouldn't be here without it. :P

battlefront23

Well, they know about my feelings, if that's what you mean. Both are fine with it. Music is my life, as corny as it sounds. I love the stuff. :P

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Did you ask your parents about those thoughts/feelings? Same, music has been my lifeline for the past 3 months with almost all of my friends playing football. I wouldn't be here without it. :P

Dark_Knight6

Well, they know about my feelings, if that's what you mean. Both are fine with it. Music is my life, as corny as it sounds. I love the stuff. :P

lol yay me 2! i love music and that did sound pretty corny :P

Turn-ons: quick to grasp concepts, emotionally stable, isn't influenced by social norms, is able to convey her thoughts, pale skin, red hair, educated, and original.

Turn-offs: emotionally unstable, heavily influenced by social norms, short sighted and narrow minded, easily confused, very dark skin, tan, muscular build, overweight, too much talk with no substance, abuser of alcohol or drugs.

Well, they know about my feelings, if that's what you mean. Both are fine with it. Music is my life, as corny as it sounds. I love the stuff. :P Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]Well, they know about my feelings, if that's what you mean. Both are fine with it. Music is my life, as corny as it sounds. I love the stuff. :P battlefront23

My taste in music has considerably expanded in the passed three years or so. I guess it's just something that comes along with becoming more mature. :P