What are the chances of the U.S. going to war with Iran within the next 3 years?

Depends on who wins the election. :PJandurin

Plus, there are rumors that if someone who Bush thinks will be soft on Iran (most likely Obama) gets elected, Bush might bomb Iran before leaving office. whipassmt

Don't think it's likely. We're still in a war for the sake of Pete. >_>Aquat1cF1sh

From my standpoint, war with Iran is very probable because I believe the war in Iraq was about controlling oil fields and setting up permanenet military bases for convenience of future invasions (most likely Iran next) and further control of oil fields.

You can call my opinion crazy, but my crazy opinion will be the only one that makes sense if the U.S. does go to war with Iran within the next 3 years.

Ofcourse this is just opinion, and there's no real way to tell the exact chances of war. This is just to get a reading of what most people here believe will happen between the U.S. and Iran within the next 3 years. I personally believe it's completely inevidable. Unlike Iraq, Iran can actually bite back. That's scary.DA_B0MB

You can't say Iraq can't bite. They have kept you Americans out of their country for years now using outdated weaponary and also poor judgment on the American governments part. Iraqis know their country and towns better than any one else, and the stupid Americans can't fight an invisible enemy. I was reading a book about the Iraq war from 2002, and it was telling me how great the Americans weapons are, and how they will start the war in 2003 by sending in B117 stealth bombers and whatever. That didn't really work now did it? Well the rest of the world is now actually smart enough to pull out seeing that they can't win the war, but stubborn old George over there can't lose his pride. Shame on him.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Depends on who wins the election. :Pwhipassmt

But to go to war requires a congressional declaration of war, which congress stupidly voted in favor of, among some of their mistakes (PATRIOT Act), his was re-enforced after the end of the Vietnam war when LBJ lied to congress to pass the Tolkin Gulf Resolution which basically handed over the power to declare war to the executive branch.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Depends on who wins the election. :Pwhipassmt

Those aren't really the same thing when you consider that McCain doesn't want to engage in diplomacy while Obama does plan to.

Of course. we will have to go there, put in new administration and denominate Iran back to Dollars, just like with Iraq.

I think this war with Iran stuff is a bunch of malarchy. There's no way war with Iran could be sold to Americans after a drawn out Iraqi conflict, and intelligence that they're no longer building a bomb.Rhazakna

General American opinion doesn't matter and never mattered unfortunately. Key points being Iraq and Vietnam.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Depends on who wins the election. :Pwhipassmt

I gaurantee it. That would be wonderfully convenient for Bush. Martial law, hypothetically speaking, could be declared if that happens.

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]Ofcourse this is just opinion, and there's no real way to tell the exact chances of war. This is just to get a reading of what most people here believe will happen between the U.S. and Iran within the next 3 years. I personally believe it's completely inevidable. Unlike Iraq, Iran can actually bite back. That's scary.blakout3

You can't say Iraq can't bite. They have kept you Americans out of their country for years now using outdated weaponary and also poor judgment on the American governments part. Iraqis know their country and towns better than any one else, and the stupid Americans can't fight an invisible enemy. I was reading a book about the Iraq war from 2002, and it was telling me how great the Americans weapons are, and how they will start the war in 2003 by sending in B117 stealth bombers and whatever. That didn't really work now did it? Well the rest of the world is now actually smart enough to pull out seeing that they can't win the war, but stubborn old George over there can't lose his pride. Shame on him.

I phrased that incorrectly or unclearly, by "bite back" I ment a retaliation on American soil.

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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]Ofcourse this is just opinion, and there's no real way to tell the exact chances of war. This is just to get a reading of what most people here believe will happen between the U.S. and Iran within the next 3 years. I personally believe it's completely inevidable. Unlike Iraq, Iran can actually bite back. That's scary.DA_B0MB

You can't say Iraq can't bite. They have kept you Americans out of their country for years now using outdated weaponary and also poor judgment on the American governments part. Iraqis know their country and towns better than any one else, and the stupid Americans can't fight an invisible enemy. I was reading a book about the Iraq war from 2002, and it was telling me how great the Americans weapons are, and how they will start the war in 2003 by sending in B117 stealth bombers and whatever. That didn't really work now did it? Well the rest of the world is now actually smart enough to pull out seeing that they can't win the war, but stubborn old George over there can't lose his pride. Shame on him.

I phrased that incorrectly or unclearly, by "bite" I ment a retaliation on American soil.

Iran has MRBM and SRBM that can attack American military presence in the region but it does not have any capability to reach the US since it does not have an ICBM.

I see only four ways of avoiding a U.S.- Iran war

1. Israel attacks Iran before the U.S. does, this way they fight the war for us

2. Sunni Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE) attack Iran

3. tough economic sanctions destroy the Iranian economy bankrupting the government and causing it to collapse

4. The Iranians rise up and overthrow their oppressive regime

Personally I'm rooting for numbers three or four, which will involve the least bloodshed.

Note: I think a war with Iran will go better than the Iraq war because:

1. It will most likely be fought as an air and naval campaign with the help of special forces and it's main goal will be to destroy the Iranian weapons capabilities, if there is no military occupation of Iran this should be no problem, the U.S. does terrific in bombing campaigns, it's the occupation and nation building that produces the problems for America.

2. It will have more support from the Muslim/Arab world- most Sunni muslims and Sunni Muslim countries dislike Iran and wouldn't mind us bombing them.

3. It would have more international support than the Iraq war did, Germany and France have more pro- U.S. leaders than they previously did, French President Nicolas Sarkozy has even said that Iran is a threat and that military action might be necessary as a last resort- now if France might support the war, then that shows how much Europeans view Iran as a threat.

4, we made mistakes in Iraq (like not sending in enough troops, and not securing the Iranian and Syrian borders). We have learned from our mistakes and won't make as much in a war with Iran.

5. In Iraq we have to deal with neigboring countries that train militia fighters and give them safe haven from which to lauch attacks on coalition forces, Iraqi forces, and innocent civilians. In Iran, this won't happen since Iran is the one that is giving these safe havesn.

War? Probably not. Diplomatic talks. Probably.

If anything we'll just seize the country :\ which sorta upsets me, I wish we'd get out of everyones buisness and let everyone kill eachother. I'd rest easy with that.

whipassmy:

I don't see how you can call Iran's regime oppressive. Saudi Arabia's government is much more oppressive than Iran's ever will be. Women get beheaded there for flirting or giving someone a kiss before marriage. Also remember, the Iranian people themselves overthrew the shah of Iran which was an American-backed government to set up the present one.

Iran may or may not harbor those insurgents but what makes you think they will stay there and get bombed? More likely than not, those insurgents will flood into Iraq and Afghanstan and maybe Israel and suicide bombings will be everywhere.

And I wouldn't count on French support...

My targets for a war against Iran:

1. nuclear facilities

2. Military bases especially those belonging to the revolutionary guards

3. Missile facilities, rocket launchers, scud launchers

4. communications equipment

5. Terrorist/militia/insurgent training facilities

6. IED and EFP manufacturing facilities

7. Naval bases, shipping ports

8. Government leaders

9. Banks, financial institutions

I would not lauch a land campaign, i would go in with air strikes and a naval campaign. I would also use special forces and employ a naval blockade.

my goal would be to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities, and to severely weaken Iran's military capacity as well as to damage Iranian backed militias and terrorist groups and to hurt the Iranian economy. I would also use special forces and CIA to train local anti-government groups so that they can overthrow the government.

My targets for a war against Iran:

1. nuclear facilities

2. Military bases especially those belonging to the revolutionary guards

3. Missile facilities, rocket launchers, scud launchers

4. communications equipment

5. Terrorist/militia/insurgent training facilities

6. IED and EFP manufacturing facilities

7. Naval bases, shipping ports

8. Government leaders

9. Banks, financial institutions

I would not lauch a land campaign, i would go in with air strikes and a naval campaign. I would also use special forces and employ a naval blockade.

my goal would be to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities, and to severely weaken Iran's military capacity as well as to damage Iranian backed militias and terrorist groups and to hurt the Iranian economy. I would also use special forces and CIA to train local anti-government groups so that they can overthrow the government.

whipassmt

You do know that Iran borders both IRaq and Afghanstan right? They will force the American army into a ground war.

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My targets for a war against Iran:

1. nuclear facilities

2. Military bases especially those belonging to the revolutionary guards

3. Missile facilities, rocket launchers, scud launchers

4. communications equipment

5. Terrorist/militia/insurgent training facilities

6. IED and EFP manufacturing facilities

7. Naval bases, shipping ports

8. Government leaders

9. Banks, financial institutions

I would not lauch a land campaign, i would go in with air strikes and a naval campaign. I would also use special forces and employ a naval blockade.

my goal would be to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities, and to severely weaken Iran's military capacity as well as to damage Iranian backed militias and terrorist groups and to hurt the Iranian economy. I would also use special forces and CIA to train local anti-government groups so that they can overthrow the government.

TheWalrusBeast

You do know that Iran borders both IRaq and Afghanstan right? They will force the American army into a ground war.

whipassmy:

I don't see how you can call Iran's regime oppressive. Saudi Arabia's government is much more oppressive than Iran's ever will be. Women get beheaded there for flirting or giving someone a kiss before marriage. Also remember, the Iranian people themselves overthrew the shah of Iran which was an American-backed government to set up the present one.

Iran may or may not harbor those insurgents but what makes you think they will stay there and get bombed? More likely than not, those insurgents will flood into Iraq and Afghanstan and maybe Israel and suicide bombings will be everywhere.

And I wouldn't count on French support...

TheWalrusBeast

It all depends on what happens in the next 3 years. Who's the president, if Iran attacks the U.S. (highly doubtful but whatever) and so on.nirvana563

it totally depends on iran's next president, if ahmadinejad got approved for another 4 years of presidency..as an iranian i'm pretty sure .. a war is undeniable.fallconet

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whipassmy:

I don't see how you can call Iran's regime oppressive. Saudi Arabia's government is much more oppressive than Iran's ever will be. Women get beheaded there for flirting or giving someone a kiss before marriage. Also remember, the Iranian people themselves overthrew the shah of Iran which was an American-backed government to set up the present one.

Iran may or may not harbor those insurgents but what makes you think they will stay there and get bombed? More likely than not, those insurgents will flood into Iraq and Afghanstan and maybe Israel and suicide bombings will be everywhere.

And I wouldn't count on French support...

whipassmt

If they are already in Iraq and Afghanstan, attacking Iran won't affect their numbers. It may cut some of the perceived fundings but otherwsie you can't eliminate them unless you have full control of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Syria..

i think if mc Cain is elected it probably will be before the end of the year. the threats that are in the Middle East are also in Korea, but you know a bully never picks on anyone his own size. with that said, don't make a mistake taking Iran lightly either. Whats going on in Iraq and Iran is mainly about money and personal BS between certain world leaders.

it takes a coward to send other ppl kids to war while the coward sits safely at home bumping his gums about freedom and terrorism....yeh right. i'm not that gullible

i think if mc Cain is elected it probably will be before the end of the year. the threats that are in the Middle East are also in Korea, but you know a bully never picks on anyone his own size. with that said, don't make a mistake taking Iran lightly either. Whats going on in Iraq and Iran is mainly about money and personal BS between certain world leaders.

it takes a coward to send other ppl kids to war while the coward sits safely at home bumping his gums about freedom and terrorism....yeh right. i'm not that gullible

shyskillz

I would say its an absolute dead cert, america just cant help themselves in seein just how bad they can mess up the entire world all the time forgettin about the messes in their own back yard.

U need to concentrate on sortin out ur domestic problems like the forgotten ghettos and the poor people who have no access to a good education etc etc.

Until u fix these problems u are in no position to tell anyone else how to deal with their problems and the more u try to do so the more trouble u are storing up long term.

[QUOTE="shyskillz"]

i think if mc Cain is elected it probably will be before the end of the year. the threats that are in the Middle East are also in Korea, but you know a bully never picks on anyone his own size. with that said, don't make a mistake taking Iran lightly either. Whats going on in Iraq and Iran is mainly about money and personal BS between certain world leaders.

it takes a coward to send other ppl kids to war while the coward sits safely at home bumping his gums about freedom and terrorism....yeh right. i'm not that gullible

whipassmt

[QUOTE="fallconet"]it totally depends on iran's next president, if ahmadinejad got approved for another 4 years of presidency..as an iranian i'm pretty sure .. a war is undeniable.whipassmt

pff..obviously no..just like his first term..the sad thing is that election in iran is fake and every one knows that..just like another dictatorships..otherwise he wasn't our president now :|

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Depends on who wins the election. :PPATH0G3N

But to go to war requires a congressional declaration of war, which congress stupidly voted in favor of, among some of their mistakes (PATRIOT Act), his was re-enforced after the end of the Vietnam war when LBJ lied to congress to pass the Tolkin Gulf Resolution which basically handed over the power to declare war to the executive branch.

no the pres. can send troops without congressional approval because of the war powers act, and then he has 48 hrs to tell congress, and he can keep them there for 60 without a declaration of war

Bielzebush has already talked about developing tactical battlefield nuclear weapons with a 5 kilotonne load, why would he need these aweful weapons unless he was planning somethin big and nasty??

The rest of the world is workin to rid themselves of nuclear weapons but america wants to build new small scale (thats an oxymoron right there) nuclear weapons, why??

Bielzebush has already talked about developing tactical battlefield nuclear weapons with a 5 kilotonne load, why would he need these aweful weapons unless he was planning somethin big and nasty??

The rest of the world is workin to rid themselves of nuclear weapons but america wants to build new small scale (thats an oxymoron right there) nuclear weapons, why??

l34052

It is highly likely that the US will go to war with Iran. What I find very humorous is you guys thinking the other middle eastern nations will help. Iran helped Iraq in some ways, but if you knew anything about their history, the two nations still hate each others.

Its just a matter of choosing who you hate more, and sorry to say, the middle east (save Israel of course) hates the USA and sees them as a threat. They invaded afghanistan, so what? Then they invaded Iraq, so the other countries start to see a connection here. If the US invades Iran, then the other countries will expect an eventual attack on their own land, and mark my words, they will help defend Iran in some way.