There's no such thing as evil, first of all. And religion isn't the root of all evil, even if that was the case. Religion can be a tool used to divide people, but so can money. And so can other things. For example, nationalism can cause war and suffering, just as easily. It's in human nature to fight over disagreements, and it's in human nature to desire things. Some people can just control it better than others. But in the end, we're all part of the same steaming pile of ****. Everything else we say is the cause of our problems is nothing more than a scapegoat. It's just us.
Greed and lust for power. Understand this and get over yourself about the idea that religion is the root of all evil.
m25105
More than that... I basically agree with ilovegames1992. As long as there are issues of allocating resources, people who want to impose a way of life on others, and simple unreasoning aggression, it's more than just greed and a desire for power. Of course, religion is a power structure to one degree or another, so that would place it in the realm of, "lust for power", as a contributing factor. Still, religion is rarely the motivation for war... more often its the justifiation or means to engender support for one.
Oh look this got turned into a religion hate thread.Why can't humans accept that fighting is our genetics.We just need a reason to wage war and now we are using religion.Before it was who got to colonize india first.
Why don't soldiers just say screw you i'm not fighting your war and then you would just have a bunch of powerless leaders and then we can all live happyly by ourselves and not have to have them keep on screwing over our planet.
Oh look this got turned into a religion hate thread.Why can't humans accept that fighting is our genetics.We just need a reason to wage war and now we are using religion.Before it was who got to colonize india first.conistant
The OP mentioned religion... his whole point was that we should stop blaming it, whoever we are. That said, I agree that a simple desire to expand territory and acquire resources is a driving factor, with religion often being window dressing, ad hoc justification, or a means to garner wide support.
Why don't soldiers just say screw you i'm not fighting your war and then you would just have a bunch of powerless leaders and then we can all live happyly by ourselves and not have to have them keep on screwing over our planet.
Yah...the idea of greed when it comes to land/resources wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the fighting between rival city states way back in the day because their religions were different. And essentially everyone was on an equal playing field until the idea of religion came along and the idea of being "enlightened" or becoming a priest and gaining special privileges arrived. So yah...it is.
Why don't soldiers just say screw you i'm not fighting your war and then you would just have a bunch of powerless leaders and then we can all live happyly by ourselves and not have to have them keep on screwing over our planet.
m25105
Cause if they don't obey, they don't get paid.money talks bullshyt walks
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence.
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. I don't think that's a corruption OF human nature, it's human nature on display at an early age.
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. That's a ridiculously dark view of mankind you have there.
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. That's a ridiculously dark view of mankind you have there.and it's true to say the least
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. That's a ridiculously dark view of mankind you have there. Well I will admit that it is not good. It's just how I explain the wars and suffering of this world, I blame it on our human nature which is not perfect, and is in fact corrupt from the beginning. Of course when you grow up you come to have a better understanding of these things and can battle it by doing what is good. Thats how I view it.
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even then most behavior is learned from your parents/by example and one of the largest influences in early childhood is the religion of your parents. I think the Jesuit quotation, "give me the child for his first seven years, and I'll give you the man", sums it up pretty well.
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even then most behavior is learned from your parents/by example and one of the largest influences in early childhood is the religion of your parents. I think the Jesuit quotation, "give me the child for his first seven years, and I'll give you the man", sums it up pretty well. Yeah, but in the light of abuse scandals, that quote is a little creepy.
[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="GameGuy642003"] I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. That's a ridiculously dark view of mankind you have there. Well I will admit that it is not good. It's just how I explain the wars and suffering of this world, I blame it on our human nature which is not perfect, and is in fact corrupt from the beginning. Of course when you grow up you come to have a better understanding of these things and can battle it by doing what is good. Thats how I view it. Oh, then I guess I share your view. I thought your view was overwhelmingly negative.
I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence. I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even then most behavior is learned from your parents/by example and one of the largest influences in early childhood is the religion of your parents. I think the Jesuit quotation, "give me the child for his first seven years, and I'll give you the man", sums it up pretty well. Very good point. I agree that a child being raised properly by very good parents is the solution to improve that child's life and take away corruptible tendencies. Also a child being raised by non-religious parents can have the same effect in fact.
But a child's behavior is not solely dependent on a parent's care taking. That child still has a mind of its own and can think on its own and can thus make decisions on its own, the corrupt human nature that I talk about is that when a child disobeys the parent or lies about stealing a cookie or some such, this will happen regardless of how good a upbringing the child has.
[QUOTE="DocDelicious"][QUOTE="GameGuy642003"] I would also agree with this. If you mean Human Nature. Sadly it is in our very nature as humans to have these corrupt urges (lack of a better word). Even as a child you can see the corruption of human nature when the child laughs at a cruel joke or partakes in fights and violence.GameGuy642003
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even then most behavior is learned from your parents/by example and one of the largest influences in early childhood is the religion of your parents. I think the Jesuit quotation, "give me the child for his first seven years, and I'll give you the man", sums it up pretty well. Very good point. I agree that a child being raised properly by very good parents is the solution to improve that child's life and take away corruptible tendencies. Also a child being raised by non-religious parents can have the same effect in fact.
But a child's behavior is not solely dependent on a parent's care taking. That child still has a mind of its own and can think on its own and can thus make decisions on its own, the corrupt human nature that I talk about is that when a child disobeys the parent or lies about stealing a cookie or some such, this will happen regardless of how good a upbringing the child has.
I wouldn't really call that corrupt, though, since it's merely a product of immaturity and lack of experience. In other words, ignorance.
[QUOTE="DocDelicious"] I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even then most behavior is learned from your parents/by example and one of the largest influences in early childhood is the religion of your parents. I think the Jesuit quotation, "give me the child for his first seven years, and I'll give you the man", sums it up pretty well.ghoklebutter
Very good point. I agree that a child being raised properly by very good parents is the solution to improve that child's life and take away corruptible tendencies. Also a child being raised by non-religious parents can have the same effect in fact.
But a child's behavior is not solely dependent on a parent's care taking. That child still has a mind of its own and can think on its own and can thus make decisions on its own, the corrupt human nature that I talk about is that when a child disobeys the parent or lies about stealing a cookie or some such, this will happen regardless of how good a upbringing the child has.
I wouldn't really call that corrupt, though, since it's merely a product of immaturity and lack of experience. In other words, ignorance. True True. and that is why if you have a good parental upbringing you can get rid of these habits and become mature. But if a child doesn't have the care that he/she needs than that habit of lieing and negativity towards authority can grow and turn from disobeying your parents to disobeying the law or some other more serious predicament. SO ya I guess it does have a lot to do with parental upbringing.
Why don't soldiers just say screw you i'm not fighting your war and then you would just have a bunch of powerless leaders and then we can all live happyly by ourselves and not have to have them keep on screwing over our planet.
Vickman178
because people have been bombarded so hard with media about patriotism, soldiers can hardly recognize anymore when they are fighting for their country and when they are fighting for some corporate greed-
[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"] True True. and that is why if you have a good parental upbringing you can get rid of these habits and become mature. But if a child doesn't have the care that he/she needs than that habit of lieing and negativity towards authority can grow and turn from disobeying your parents to disobeying the law or some other more serious predicament. SO ya I guess it does have a lot to do with parental upbringing. I think it all comes down to teaching children to be unselfish and empathic while maintaining their individuality.
I'd say greed is the single largest part of human nature that causes suffering and war. People will use ways of controlling the population to gain more power then they'll use that power they've gained to take more. People should be more content with what they have and realize they're nothing special or unique.
Human greed and lust for power is what causes many people to suffer. And also politicians and people in positions of power making use of social Darwinism.
Humanity causes it--although mother nature can aptly play a role as well in suffering.Stevo_the_gamer
Mother nature also creates natural disasters which kill and maim many innocent people. Humans are not responsible for natural disasters, mother nature is. We as humans are pretty much all victums to mother nature and its destructive power over us.
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