France. Come on, they had never won a major battle as far as I know. and heres proof
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html
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The United Statesdangerd0g24
W00t for another 9/11, I couldn't care less about those stupid americans :)
btw that wasnt serious. I dislike america, but i definitely wouldnt say I dont care about it. The country I care least about would have to be Mexico. Seriously.
[QUOTE="dangerd0g24"]The United Statessmarb001
W00t for another 9/11, I couldn't care less about those stupid americans :)
btw that wasnt serious. I dislike america, but i definitely wouldnt say I dont care about it. The country I care least about would have to be Mexico. Seriously.
werd, we have like the same PC[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="storedpie"]America wouldn't be America without FranceFrance
What are you gonna do surrender on me?
jlh47
france wouldn't be france without america... dozens of times over...
Dozens of times as in 1 or 2?
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]Oh really? I thought they were just a means to establish order...foxhound_fox
Because a world government would be soooooooo efficient.dgbiker1
ohh so that's why you're taking the holier than thou stance every time you post.... makes sense now.
[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="storedpie"]America wouldn't be America without FranceFrance
What are you gonna do surrender on me?
jointed
france wouldn't be france without america... dozens of times over...
Dozens of times as in 1 or 2?
as in as many as i make up!
but seriously it's like 2 or 3 times...
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="storedpie"]America wouldn't be America without FranceFrance
What are you gonna do surrender on me?
jlh47
france wouldn't be france without america... dozens of times over...
Dozens of times as in 1 or 2?
as in as many as i make up!
but seriously it's like 2 or 3 times...
Hmm okay, please go ahead and name one which wasn't a collective effort of a coalition of nations.
well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
It was the British, the French Algerian regiments, Canadians, Australians and finally the yanks. :|
You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jlh47"]You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
read the history books...
America saved britain and france in ww2... there's no denying that.
No... they just joined the war really late.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jlh47"]You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
read the history books...
America saved britain and france in ww2... there's no denying that.
Uhhhhh Britain wasn't occupied? The Brits fought off the invasion on their own.
well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
Please tell me you're joking. :|
[QUOTE="jlh47"]well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
Ninja-Hippo
Please tell me you're joking. :|
Nope he is actually that brainwashed.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jlh47"]You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
read the history books...
America saved britain and france in ww2... there's no denying that.
By history books, do you mean "the movie saving private ryan"? :|
How did America save britain? Britain wasn't even occupied, it fought off nazi germany alone for years and then moved back into europe to liberate other nations with the help of canada, australia, america; heckloads of countries. Russia also contributed far more men to the war than any other nation.
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jlh47"]You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
jlh47
read the history books...
America saved britain and france in ww2... there's no denying that.
Have you ever heard of the Battle of Britain? :roll:
[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jlh47"]You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
swizz-the-gamer
read the history books...
America saved britain and france in ww2... there's no denying that.
No... they just joined the war really late.And saved you.
I'm sure Britian could have lasted forever against Germany with a depression and without loans or supplies from the US, then save France and the rest of Europe as well as China and the Far East.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]All of them. They are all just arbitrary boundaries set up by power hungry nationalists who think it gives them superiority over other humans.Junkie_man
Quite true. Where did people get the idea that patriotism was a virtue? It's just a tool to convince people to kill others.
and a lack of nationalism is a tool to bring a world government. You are in no way shape or form, smarter or better than anyone else.
And saved you.
I'm sure Britian could have lasted forever against with a depression and without loans or supplies from the US, then save France and the rest of Europe as well as China and the Far East.
The_Ish
You think britain was in a depression during the war? :| The war is what saved the USA and the UK from the depression. War = mass production of arms = jobs. Sheesh.
Britain COULD have lasted forever against Germany because they already had; hitler ceased operations trying to invade britain. He gave up. Britain could have accepted europe under nazi rule, established trade relations with the germans and would have continued on just fine. Obviously that didn't happen though.
The liberation of Europe was an epic effort from practically every remaining free nation on earth; canada, australia, america, even tiny african countries and island nations which were a part of britain. To be arrogant enough to say "we saved you" is frankly, an insult to the british soldiers and pilots who fought off the machine that was the nazi war effort for so many years, completely alone, as well as the plethora of nations which joined the war effort to liberate europe.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]All of them. They are all just arbitrary boundaries set up by power hungry nationalists who think it gives them superiority over other humans.DivergeUnifyOh really? I thought they were just a means to establish order...
[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jlh47"]You know nothing.well ww1 and ww2 was America.... not a coalition of nations.. it was Americans coming in and saving them.
Ninja-Hippo
read the history books...
America saved britain and france in ww2... there's no denying that.
By history books, do you mean "the movie saving private ryan"? :|
How did America save britain? Britain wasn't even occupied, it fought off nazi germany alone for years and then moved back into europe to liberate other nations with the help of canada, australia, america; heckloads of countries. Russia also contributed far more men to the war than any other nation.
:?
Not to mention the T-34
[QUOTE="The_Ish"]
And saved you.
I'm sure Britian could have lasted forever against with a depression and without loans or supplies from the US, then save France and the rest of Europe as well as China and the Far East.
Ninja-Hippo
You think britain was in a depression during the war? :| The war is what saved the USA and the UK from the depression. War = mass production of arms = jobs. Sheesh.
Britain COULD have lasted forever against Germany because they already had; hitler ceased operations trying to invade britain. He gave up. Britain could have accepted europe under nazi rule, established trade relations with the germans and would have continued on just fine. Obviously that didn't happen though.
The liberation of Europe was an epic effort from practically every remaining free nation on earth; canada, australia, america, even tiny african countries and island nations which were a part of britain. To be arrogant enough to say "we saved you" is frankly, an insult to the british soldiers and pilots who fought off the machine that was the nazi war effort for so many years, completely alone, as well as the plethora of nations which joined the war effort to liberate europe.
War may have saved the US economy, but it sure as hell didn't help Britian, which had to borrow lots of money, weapons and equipment from the US. And did you really think Hitler would have completely given up Britian? With all the new-found resources of Europe under his control?
I never insulted British soldiers, you're putting words in my mouth. You think its an insult to need saving, or be saved? Great, you just insulted every ****ing victim of oppression or violence or accidents in the world. Nice job. See, I can do that too.
The Liberation of Europe may have been a world effort, but a large part of it goes to both the US and the Soviet Union. Without us, Europe would still be part of Nazi Germany. It's not arrogance, when it's true. The US and the Soviet Union did save Europe, and the US did save China, the Philippines and various other Far East nations.
Europe didn't have the resources to keep waging a war against germany.
i'm not saying that the US single handedly saved everyone. But if they hadn't of entered the war, Germany would have won..
without the resources and manpower, Britain would have most likely lost.
War may have saved the US economy, but it sure as hell didn't help Britian, which had to borrow lots of money, weapons and equipment from the US. And did you really think Hitler would have completely given up Britian? With all the new-found resources of Europe under his control?
I never insulted British soldiers, you're putting words in my mouth. You think its an insult to need saving, or be saved? Great, you just insulted every ****ing victim of oppression or violence or accidents in the world. Nice job. See, I can do that too.
The Liberation of Europe may have been a world effort, but a large part of it goes to both the US and the Soviet Union. Without us, Europe would still be part of Nazi Germany. It's not arrogance, when it's true. The US and the Soviet Union did save Europe, and the US did save China, the Philippines and various other Far East nations.
The_Ish
He DID give up on britain. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He pulled out forces from northern france, replacing it with a defensive line, and relocated everything to the east to fight russia. No attempt was made to invade Britain at all following the battle of britain.
No offense, but comments like "We saved you" are simply arrogant. They are. There's no denying that. I'm not insulting anyone.
Imagine a guy gets into a fight. He's ambushed. A huge guy with the fighting prowess of chuck norris beats him senseless. All of his buddies drop instantly, leaving him to fight by himself. He doesn't stand a chance. He battles on for hours though, refusing to go down, while another buddy of his stands by, bigger, stronger, able to help, but doesn't. His buddy instead uses the opportunity to make money, now that his friend is in a fight and thus cant do his usual job.
Finally, once enough money has been made, you jump into the fray. You help your buddy, beaten and battered from battling all alone all this time against impossible odds, and you and a bunch of your friends club together to beat up this guy who attacked him in the first place.
Would you really boast to your friend afterwards, that you saved him?
Europe didn't have the resources to keep waging a war against germany.
i'm not saying that the US single handedly saved everyone. But if they hadn't of entered the war, Germany would have won..
without the resources and manpower, Britain would have most likely lost.
jlh47
What do you mean by "europe"? Seeing as europe had already fallen and was under occupation. You need to stop talking about this because you know nothing about it. Honestly. And please dont be offended by that because it's not an insult; i dont want to upset anyone. I'm simply pointing out that the comments you keep making on the topic are entirely incorrect, factually speaking.
Britain would not have lost. Britain had already won. Would britain have been able to single handedly go BACK into europe and liberate france? Heck no. As far as britain was concerned though; it had successfully fought off nazi germany to the point where hitler lost all interest in even trying any more, and instead moved off to russia.
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