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#1 Kaszilla
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BTW I believe in God but I'm not a Christian. I'm not sure why atheists are trying to disprove of God by using Christianity as the source,not everyone who believes in God is a christian. I believe in Jesus but I don't believe he was born Dec.25. Discuss.

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love the show.... and I'm catholic
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#3 LJS9502_basic
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Zeitgeist if you want entertainment....don't look for it for truth.
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#4 mattisgod01
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Zeitgeist if you want entertainment....don't look for it for truth.LJS9502_basic

Now that's the truth.

I'm not saying there isn't some aspects of truth in Zeitgiest but there are far more reliable sources.

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love the show.... and I'm catholichippiesanta
hippiesanta I would like to use this opportunity to say I love you and your posts. That is all.
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#6 ChampionoChumps
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Zeitgeist if you want entertainment....don't look for it for truth.mattisgod01

Now that's the truth.

I'm not saying there isn't some aspects of truth in Zeitgiest but there are far more reliable sources.

Of course there are some aspects of truth in it.. that's how conspiracy works. It takes a simple truth and bends it to make you believe something wacko. Though I can't deny that some conspiracy theories were proven true in the end.
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#7 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Zeitgeist if you want entertainment....don't look for it for truth.ChampionoChumps

Now that's the truth.

I'm not saying there isn't some aspects of truth in Zeitgiest but there are far more reliable sources.

Of course there are some aspects of truth in it.. that's how conspiracy works. It takes a simple truth and bends it to make you believe something wacko. Though I can't deny that some conspiracy theories were proven true in the end.

Which ones?
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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Now that's the truth.

I'm not saying there isn't some aspects of truth in Zeitgiest but there are far more reliable sources.

LJS9502_basic

Of course there are some aspects of truth in it.. that's how conspiracy works. It takes a simple truth and bends it to make you believe something wacko. Though I can't deny that some conspiracy theories were proven true in the end.

Which ones?

Well I mean most are minor but here's a cracked article detailing a few that actually happened.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html

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#9 sinpkr
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wasent he not born dec 25. cause isnt it by the old calander.

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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Now that's the truth.

I'm not saying there isn't some aspects of truth in Zeitgiest but there are far more reliable sources.

LJS9502_basic

Of course there are some aspects of truth in it.. that's how conspiracy works. It takes a simple truth and bends it to make you believe something wacko. Though I can't deny that some conspiracy theories were proven true in the end.

Which ones?

the Lincoln Assassination was i think.

I think what he means is some consipiracies turn out to be true, which they do.

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why not give us a summary
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Disprove God by usingChristianity?We use logic and science to disprove all religions.

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#13 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] Of course there are some aspects of truth in it.. that's how conspiracy works. It takes a simple truth and bends it to make you believe something wacko. Though I can't deny that some conspiracy theories were proven true in the end.mattisgod01

Which ones?

the Lincoln Assassination was i think.

I think what he means is some consipiracies turn out to be true, which they do.

I think that was more along the lines of investigation finding co conspirators. I don't think the public had conspiracy theories and it didn't take too long to round up the actors in that case so I don't want to classify it with all the crazy conspiracy theories of today wherein the evidence doesn't support the conspiracy. And further impressions today feel at least one of the co conspirators may have not actually been one.
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#14 LJS9502_basic
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Disprove God by usingChristianity?We use logic and science to disprove all religions.

siriusbusiness
Logic and science do not disprove religion. I'm not seeing logic in your post....
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#15 ChampionoChumps
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[QUOTE="siriusbusiness"]

Disprove God by usingChristianity?We use logic and science to disprove all religions.

LJS9502_basic
Logic and science do not disprove religion. I'm not seeing logic in your post....

Don't you know that you can disprove the supernatural with scientific methods? /s
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#16 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="siriusbusiness"]

Disprove God by usingChristianity?We use logic and science to disprove all religions.

ChampionoChumps

Logic and science do not disprove religion. I'm not seeing logic in your post....

Don't you know that you can disprove the supernatural with scientific methods? /s

Science has not done so......science is the study of how the world works as a simple definition) and as such is bound by the understanding of humans.

What is /s??

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#17 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Which ones?LJS9502_basic

the Lincoln Assassination was i think.

I think what he means is some consipiracies turn out to be true, which they do.

I think that was more along the lines of investigation finding co conspirators. I don't think the public had conspiracy theories and it didn't take too long to round up the actors in that case so I don't want to classify it with all the crazy conspiracy theories of today wherein the evidence doesn't support the conspiracy. And further impressions today feel at least one of the co conspirators may have not actually been one.

I don't really know enough about the Lincoln Assassination to comment any further. However i wouldn't place it in the same category as the Moon landing or 9/11 or Roswell. But i'm sure there are some "Crazy" conspiracy theroies floating around that are true (only through the result of there being so many). Again i tend to steer clear of conspiracy theories in general so my knowledge base i fairly low.

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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Logic and science do not disprove religion. I'm not seeing logic in your post....LJS9502_basic

Don't you know that you can disprove the supernatural with scientific methods? /s

Science has not done so......science is the study of how the world works as a simple definition) and as such is bound by the understanding of humans.

What is /s??

sarcasm :P I'm Catholic btw I'm just messing around
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Zeitgeist if you want entertainment....don't look for it for truth.LJS9502_basic
we've got the bible for that
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#20 sensfanVone
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Definitely interesting movie, I don't take all of it as fact but I love learning as much as possible, Zeitgeist was good for learning some of the possibilities as far as the world bank etc. is concerned.

I believe in God but don't limit myself to any certain religion.

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#21 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

the Lincoln Assassination was i think.

I think what he means is some consipiracies turn out to be true, which they do.

mattisgod01

I think that was more along the lines of investigation finding co conspirators. I don't think the public had conspiracy theories and it didn't take too long to round up the actors in that case so I don't want to classify it with all the crazy conspiracy theories of today wherein the evidence doesn't support the conspiracy. And further impressions today feel at least one of the co conspirators may have not actually been one.

I don't really know enough about the Lincoln Assassination to comment any further. However i wouldn't place it in the same category as the Moon landing or 9/11 or Roswell. But i'm sure there are some "Crazy" conspiracy theroies floating around that are true (only through the result of there being so many). Again i tend to steer clear of conspiracy theories in general so my knowledge base i fairly low.

Indeed. Well conspiracy theories do seem to be of the crazy variety and as such I've not noticed one that has been found as true. Not saying they might not exist......but it would have to have been something low level. As it stands.....they mostly seem silly.
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#22 PS2_ROCKS
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Jesus wasn't born on December 25th...
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P.S. My dad actually explained this to me before we discovered this video.
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BTW I believe in God but I'm not a Christian. I'm not sure why atheists are trying to disprove of God by using Christianity as the source,not everyone who believes in God is a christian. I believe in Jesus but I don't believe he was born Dec.25. Discuss.

Kaszilla
You believe in God but you're not a Christian, so you might be an agnostic. You believe in Jesus but you don't believe he was born Dec 25th. I believe in God and Jesus and I consider myself a Christian and I would agree that he wasn't born on December 25th. There's not much to discuss.
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The bible doesn't mention 3 kings either.

The Bethlehem = Virgo claim is ridiculous.

This guy is adding the phrase "every morning" to the end of scriptures to make them fit his conspiracy.

Using every fish reference in the bible to confirm the age of pisces...His initial date for the age of pisces can be debated too.

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BTW I believe in God but I'm not a Christian. I'm not sure why atheists are trying to disprove of God by using Christianity as the source,not everyone who believes in God is a christian. I believe in Jesus but I don't believe he was born Dec.25. Discuss.

Kaszilla

Isn't a christian someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ? If you accept him as the true Messiah/prophet of the biblical god of Yahweh, then you're a christian :|

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#27 Kaszilla
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

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BTW I believe in God but I'm not a Christian. I'm not sure why atheists are trying to disprove of God by using Christianity as the source,not everyone who believes in God is a christian. I believe in Jesus but I don't believe he was born Dec.25. Discuss.

Blue-Sky

Isn't a christian someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ? If you accept him as the true Messiah/prophet of the biblical god of Yahweh, then you're a christian :|

Ummmm I believe he is a prophet just like I believe Moses, and Muhammad are prophets, I don't look at Jesus as a special "true" prophet. I'm actually a Muslim and Jesus is believed to be the Messiah in our religion too.
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#28 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

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BTW I believe in God but I'm not a Christian. I'm not sure why atheists are trying to disprove of God by using Christianity as the source,not everyone who believes in God is a christian. I believe in Jesus but I don't believe he was born Dec.25. Discuss.

Kaszilla

Isn't a christian someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ? If you accept him as the true Messiah/prophet of the biblical god of Yahweh, then you're a christian :|

Ummmm I believe he is a prophet just like I believe Moses, and Muhammad are prophets, I don't look at Jesus as a special "true" prophet. I'm actually a Muslim and Jesus is believed to be the Messiah in our religion too.

Oh lol, easier to say Muslim then "I believe in God but not Christian"

But correct me if I'm wrong, I thought Muslims reject the divinity of Jesus. I know he's mentioned several times in the Qur'an but he was not the miracle boy that Christians make him out to be and certainly not the lord and savior of all mankind.

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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]love the show.... and I'm catholicChampionoChumps
hippiesanta I would like to use this opportunity to say I love you and your posts. That is all.

thank you haha
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#30 Shadow4020
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Never heard of this video, is there any truth to it or is it just speculation?

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earth is only 6000 years old.